Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"
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Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"
Stowaway Stories and Seasonal Shenanigans
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Ever had a cane that just won't cooperate? You're not alone! We kick off this episode with a few laughs about the trials and tribulations of using a cane during recovery, sharing amusing moments that anyone who's ever had to rely on one can relate to. We then transition into discussing the new hit series "Landman" with Billy Bob Thornton, drawing parallels to the blend of humor and drama found in "Yellowstone." It's a show you'll want to add to your watch list, especially if you're a fan of Western dramas with a comedic twist.
Imagine sneaking onto a flight and hiding in the lavatory to evade detection—a stowaway's reality that we unpack next. We scrutinize this jaw-dropping story, bringing to light the surprisingly lax security that allowed her to slip through the cracks. This leads us to chat about another type of risky behavior: the inconsistent enforcement of cell phone usage laws while driving. With personal anecdotes, we highlight the absurdity of getting ticketed at a standstill while actual dangers loom on the highways.
As the festive season approaches, we find humor in the overly abundant collection of Yankee Candles in our homes, courtesy of our wives' passionate collecting habits. The holiday season isn't just about candle scents, though—it's also a whirlwind of stress, especially for my pilot wife balancing flights and gift-giving for a Salvation Army family. Amid the hustle, we still find time to admire the Ivanpah Solar Plant and its environmental implications, reminisce about Janet Jackson's iconic performances, and dream of Aspen’s luxurious allure and outdoor adventures. Join us as we weave through a tapestry of tales and insights that promise both laughter and intrigue.
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Why do our wives have 50 Yankee candles that each last year stow away at 35,000 feet? Stop texting and talking holding your cell phones when you're driving, holiday stress. All of this and more. Next, on Cabin Pressure.
Speaker 2:So what's been going on this week, brother?
Speaker 1:Hey, we have been just laying around trying to get this knee back in order. You know the slow process of healing is some bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're up and about moving around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm past the stage of walking around with crutches and I think I had two days of a cane and that that was some bullshit right there. I'm going to tell you right now I feel for those people that have canes, because here's my problem when you set a cane down, it always falls down Like it falls on, it doesn't matter where you set it up now you know, you try to put it in the corner, try to keep it from falling down, like you can't, like just set it down, like if it's just a, you need that four prong, you know cane type of thing.
Speaker 1:That's why those older people with the four prongs are smart, because some bitch stays up.
Speaker 2:So this you don't have a four prong.
Speaker 1:No, I don't have a four prong, so you haven't gotten that smart, yet Right right, right right, this is the beginning stage, dude, but now I've got some experience for later in life.
Speaker 2:Hey, but you're up moving around, so that's the main thing. Yeah, I know you've been watching something.
Speaker 1:What have you been watching, dude? I got this new show right now. It's Landman, landman. Billy Bob Thornton is in Landman. It is the next. Actually, you know what man? It is a um, it is the next. Actually, you know what I think? Uh, you are gonna really like it because of a yellowstone, because it's it's got that kind of like yellowstone vibe to it. But, uh, it's all dealing with oil fields and all the stuff down in texas. So you got all these texas guys in there and they're all a bunch of smart ass one liners and all this stuff happening. These, these roughnecks out there. It is absolutely hilarious. But at the same time, there's lots of like serious drama in the whole show and stuff. Check out land man.
Speaker 2:But he plays, he plays some of those, uh some of those roles right that are uh kind of off the wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean Billy Bob Thornton. I think is like the sarcastic actor, right, I mean every show that you've seen him in, every freaking uh it doesn't matter where it is. Yeah, it doesn't matter what role you got he is in, he's always got that heavy sarcasm that's just over the top funny. But yeah, man, check that out. That's my new show. That's when I've been laying around and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely going to have to check that out, but we can't again talk about Yellowstone because you still haven't watched it.
Speaker 1:Hey, first of all, you're putting this stuff on me, I'm putting it on you, it's not me, it's not me. The wife is holding shows hostage.
Speaker 2:Then you need to get her motivated watch this show.
Speaker 1:I think I need, I need help with this. Isn't it like we need to like peer pressure, two different persons? She's like she does this to me all the time, like I'll have tv shows and movies and stuff. I mean she'll hold them hostage, like don't watch that without me, you can't watch it. This is our show, you know. And so then it's like years. So did you watch land?
Speaker 2:man. Yeah well, you weren't hostage on that.
Speaker 1:I know. Well, this is the thing, when you get a new show and you like she'll go in and she'll be like, okay, let's just binge watch this. You know, because Landman is like a weekly series. It comes out every. I don't know which day it comes out on, but it's still in the process of being, you know, made. But there's, I want to say, probably six, seven episodes out right now.
Speaker 2:Take a damn minute and watch Yellowstone. Yeah, so we can talk about Yellowstone. We'll get to Landman later on, but we're going to talk about Yellowstone. Hey, you know, the one thing that I always say about our podcast is that we never run out of things to say. Did you see that attempted hijacking?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Where was this? They were going to Tijuana, tijuana.
Speaker 1:Yep, wait, wait, wait. Tijuana to like where, somewhere here in the United States?
Speaker 2:No, it was in Mexico, okay, but they were going to Tijuana, but it was just the attempted hijacking Our days. People don't understand that. You think that it's just about pouring drinks and then all of a sudden, this crazy shit happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I hope a lot of pastors jumped in and that started helping they did.
Speaker 2:But this 31-year-old guy. 31 years old, right? He jumps up, attacks a flight attendant and then he storms the cockpit. Now here's the kicker he's traveling with his wife and two kids.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing you know just in this whole story that you're introducing right now, is that I can't imagine that happening on our flight, like he jumps up and attacks one of us. Oh no, that ain't happening.
Speaker 2:Nope, it's on. It's on. I mean, if that would ever happen, it's on. But on this one, though, it's crazy You've never heard of a hijacker, though, traveling with his family.
Speaker 1:Right, the hijacking field trip.
Speaker 2:Exactly it's like you, just brought the family with you and decided I'm going to hijack the airplane.
Speaker 1:Little Johnny needed some new education.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine the wife what in the hell are you doing? He tries to storm the cockpit. Now the whole plane's on him, like you know. I mean it's crazy. You can see the video on this.
Speaker 1:This isn't really a dumb and dumber hijacker.
Speaker 2:Plane stupid, right. So now here's the kick. Remember how we talked about like. You do not want to go to prison in one of them foreign countries, oh hell no. So they divert and they land in Guadalajara.
Speaker 1:Oh hell no, so now— that's like Central Mexico You're going to some freaking medieval rusted iron. Throw away the freaking key.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no extradition.
Speaker 1:Dirt floor. There's going to be chain shackles on the wall. That's what I'm envisioning like. I'm looking at like a pirate scene, you know, yeah well, hijacking, hijacking, uh in in mexico.
Speaker 2:They ain't gonna see you again. No, you ain't gonna be seen again. But anyway, this guy was 31 years old. He had said that said that he had gotten a message that a family member was kidnapped and that he was getting a death threat saying not to travel to Tijuana.
Speaker 1:Isn't there this thing? You just like stop a flight attendant or a crew member and say, hey, I need to get off this plane.
Speaker 2:I'm just. I'm reading this and processing this whole thing going what. It doesn't even make any sense. Could you imagine telling that to those Mexican police?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the justification of his story just doesn't add up. It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2:You just get off the airplane. No, I don't want to storm the cockpit. Yeah, Unfreaking, believable. But that's why I said I mean, in our industry this shit happens all the time this crazy stuff happens all the time. Again here. It is another week and we don't run out of things to talk about.
Speaker 1:Dude, the world is in chaos and people are freaking just out of their minds. I got another one for you. What's that? This woman are freaking just out of their minds.
Speaker 2:I got another one for you. What's that? This woman stowaway.
Speaker 1:No way Stowaway First of all stowaway in this day and age. I just don't know how it happens. There's like so many levels of like security and all kinds of crazy crap that has to break down in order for somebody to stowaway in today's. But every time I hear these stories, like the person, like in the wheel. Well, or whatever Frozen if you're in there. Yeah, yeah, there's so many levels of creaking complications of this thing, but what happened?
Speaker 2:Okay, so this woman tries to get through TSA security all right and she goes through the security checkpoint. They turn her away. She doesn't have a boarding pass. Now at TSA, as you know, it's just like Las Vegas, right? They've got hundreds of cameras there Everybody.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter where you are, not even Las Vegas, anywhere, anywhere in TSA, there's cameras everywhere.
Speaker 2:Everywhere. I mean they've got pictures of you at every possible angle, yeah, different angles, they could tell you if you have boogers in your nose.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's cameras everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yes To them. You didn't have a boarding pass. You can't come through Right. So five minutes later you would not believe where she got through when. Known crew member.
Speaker 1:Stop it.
Speaker 2:Known crew member.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's so many levels of like. How could that even be possible?
Speaker 2:One of the toughest places to get through. No crew member.
Speaker 1:I mean just the level of security that you have to go through as a crew member and we don't need to detail the whole process. But just like any other pastor, we have to show IDs, all that good stuff, the levels of different levels and different situations going through there. They stop you one by one too, so I don't even know how piggybacking happens on KCM.
Speaker 2:That's the thing I couldn't even understand, because the way that known crew member works couldn't understand that. But she got through known crew member and then she got to the aircraft. Now that's another feat. Think about that. She couldn't get through TSA. She got through known crew member, where it's only crew members that can go through, right, okay. So now she's got through that point, though she got to the gate. Now she's got to get on the airplane and which they have to scan her boarding pass. How do you do that? So what she did was she piggybacked with a family. They had no idea, they had no clue. She got right in the middle of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean there's so much chaos going on. I mean like that, right there, that little like you know target point of the whole story is like that I can actually see possible. You know, like people getting on the wrong planes, there's too much chaos going on in the boarding, scanning the boarding passes, because every airport doesn't have like the technology of some of the other airports where you're scanning, you know your tickets and all that stuff. But yeah, at that point I could see there's a slight possibility of you know, somebody piggybacking onto the plane, like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah and she, but she gets on and then she's going on. This family had no clue, nobody does really. She's just getting on the airplane, but then she gets on, and then she didn't have a seat Right, so she goes to the lavatory.
Speaker 1:So she's waiting to see where the empty seat is or where there's an empty place where she could kind of slide in in the last part of the boarding procedure.
Speaker 2:But there wasn't any seats. So then what she was doing was, when the flight attendant came, uh, to knock on the door she'd been there so long, she just left and then she went to another lavatory oh geez, so this is on a wide body too yeah and uh, she was, um, she was going to paris from new york, so she was jumping from lab to lab.
Speaker 2:That's how they, that's how they figured it out because she was going from lavatory to lavatory, oh wow. So then the cockpit got involved and they didn't let any of the passengers know yet, but the crew knew that something was wrong and they were having the aircraft met by the police aircraft met by the police, so she got on the aircraft, managed to outwit the crew, whatever be stoned away in a lavatory, and then well, they, they, actually they were already in.
Speaker 2:They kind of figured it out, but they weren't. They weren't going to let everybody else know because they didn't know the whole situation yet. So kind of smart in a way, really, cause you don't know what your situation is.
Speaker 1:Right, of course, but I mean I'm just trying to get a picture of like. So she's on to her destination. You said Paris right. Yeah, she's going to Paris.
Speaker 2:So she gets to Paris and the crew has the police, meet the airplane Right. So they come on, they take her into custody and she's not allowed to be there, as you know. Yeah, unlike our boarders right now, you want to go?
Speaker 1:there. Right, they're going to bounce your ass right out of there. They're going to literally put you on the net.
Speaker 2:Flight With two little guards on each side.
Speaker 1:There's going to be two guys on both sides of you and they're going to march your ass right onto that plane and you're going to be sent back to the United.
Speaker 2:States. Well, that's funny that you said that, because they actually showed a picture of her in a center seat with her little cap on and there was two security guys, one on each side of her, sitting there and going. You're getting a personal escort back to the.
Speaker 1:US yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, they escort her back and then she's met by the police there.
Speaker 1:And now she's probably looking at probably about five years in prison, yeah, or more maybe, who knows I have no idea what the penalties are for all that stuff, but that's the bullshit. It's crazy, isn't it? I mean just the levels of security breakdown and stuff like the investigation that's going to happen afterward, the TSA and FAA and everybody involved, all the airlines, and that's just kind of a nightmare to me, one that I don't even want to be involved with.
Speaker 2:Well, the nightmare has just started for everybody that let her get on the plane, because they got videos of that too. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like every person that touched her like this is going to go on for a little while, but yeah, that's some bullshit.
Speaker 2:It is, but hey, you know it's really a bunch of bullshit. What's that? I cannot stand people that drive with their cell phones.
Speaker 1:Dude, now you're pushing a button for me, because people using this cell phone and we live in a a state right now that it's illegal to use your cell phone driving Okay, but there's no enforcement.
Speaker 2:You're not exactly right about that. Let me let me tell you why. Because my son, my son, yeah, all exactly right about that. Let me let me tell you why. Because my son, my son, yeah, all right. Perfect example he was at the gas station, all right. He was putting a destination in his phone, all right. As he came out, he had his phone in his hand getting ready to put it into the holder. Right For for the destination pulled right over. Really, yep, cop was standing right there. He pulled him right over. Now he was telling him exactly what he was doing and he gave him a ticket for being on the cell phone. Now, when he went to court, he had proof that he didn't use any cellular. He didn't call anybody, he wasn't texting anybody. We had all the information Right. Do you know what they end up having to do? No contest.
Speaker 2:So, you still got to pay.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, they reduced the fine or whatever, but you still got to pay. You still got to pay. Been there, done that. Yeah, still got to pay, not with a cell phone. This is a speeding ticket in past been past years, but yeah, you still. This is going to make you pay.
Speaker 2:But you know the ones that don't get caught. Sean Now he's. He was going like four miles an hour Right, so he could see him. You know, when the don't get caught, the ones that are on the freaking interstate.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that are swerving down the highway. You, you, you literally like want to zip by them just to get away because you think they're going to hit you. Yeah, I mean I, everybody, everybody in the world has seen this over and over. I mean it's bullshit.
Speaker 2:What started this rant, though, was, um, you know, last week, whenever I was coming home, I was actually me and your wife were actually flying together, and we were on the way back, and we watched this car start swerving, and she looked at me, and I was like what in the hell is his problem? And so I got in the far left lane. He's in the right lane, so, as we're coming by, we looked at him. He had taken his cell phone, set it in the middle of his window, in front of his steering wheel, making a TikTok video or some kind of shit, as he's driving and he's swerving all over the road as he's doing this stupid video.
Speaker 1:People are so stupid. I mean it takes a split second, boom yeah, and you can be dead. I mean it's just like. I mean the number of accidents and all this stuff that happened with cell phones, it's like it's scary. But you know, going back to this enforcement thing that you're talking about, like you're the first person I've ever heard of ever get a ticket in our state like for a cell phone. I've never seen anybody pulled over for it. I've never seen. You know, like you don't, or I'm not hearing about it Like as much as I do in other States.
Speaker 1:Um, I will tell you like I know my cousin that's out in California and they enforce the freaking cell phone thing Like it's for real. I mean they got people like spot spotters and, like you know, sniper can't like lenses like trying to look for you to if you're a and they and they'll pull them over. They'll be like they'll have those like speed stops instead of speed stops. It's like cellular stops, but uh, yeah, it is, it's, it's crazy. I mean there just needs to be more. I think our technology today, with all the ai and all that stuff coming into play, I mean there needs to be more enforcement, with our or responsibility put on the phone companies to say you know you need to have some type of restrictions on these phone use on your. You know some of that's slowly coming into the technology on our phones but they're not doing that good of a job, I mean as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it doesn't even make any sense for a person on a phone, even if you don't have a newer car, that it actually goes through your car to talk yeah. Bluetooth or Wi-Fi or whatever yeah even if you don't have that, you can buy a device that plugs into your lighter that you can do it through the radio.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you can do it. Yeah, there's lots of ways to do it, whether you have an old or new car.
Speaker 2:There's absolutely no excuse. So because of that, 14% of all fatal crashes is because of cell phones.
Speaker 1:Believe it 14%. I think that's kind of low, but okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I mean, I know that. But one point yeah, but see the accidents. There's a difference between there are certain crashes and stuff. Fatal crashes right, 14%, but 1.6 million accidents per year because of taxing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, now that sounds right Like 1.6 million accidents because of this, and 14% of those are fatal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then they want you to feel sorry for the person texting, but your family member is dead.
Speaker 1:No dude, no, no, no, that's not me.
Speaker 2:It's part of right. It's part of, like, a privilege of driving to be smart enough to realize don't do this shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. It's part of like a privilege of driving to be smart enough to realize don't do this shit, yeah, because you could die from it. You look down one second.
Speaker 1:Next thing you know somebody in front of you is breaking and you're you're completely cut in half because the semis in front of you yeah, I mentioned, you know, another interesting aspect of this is, like the insurance companies, like I think the insurance company is going to start getting pretty strenuous about this. Like you get, you know you get fined for this or you get pulled over or the accidents caused by this, like your liability in your insurance, is going to go skyrocketing. You know like they're going to have to like hold people more accountable to it, but it's a it's, it's bullshit, I mean you know okay.
Speaker 1:I love my iPhone. I mean, like my iPhone, I love my you know, all my little gadgets and all that stuff. But there's a time and a place to do it.
Speaker 2:But you do the same thing as I do is that you plug it in, it goes into your car and that's the thing. Even when I didn't have it in my car, I had a device that I plugged in for the radio that I could, if I wanted to talk, I could talk through that, through the radio. If I wanted to talk, I could talk through that, through the radio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all of our cars are set up that way, Literally. I don't have to plug it into anything, my car connects automatically and all that stuff, and it's not that new. We have a 2014, 2017 vehicle, so they had it then. So I walk in my car and my car automatically connects. But yeah, cell phone stuff is out of control.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give you a funny bullshit rant right now. What's that? Yankee candles, yankee candles.
Speaker 1:Okay, now you're getting into the next rant here the holiday season and Yankee candles. We already had a talk about this, and both of our wives are into Yankee candles, and my wife the Yankee candle company is here. I mean how we, we should have stock in the damn thing. I mean, we have so many Yankee candles in our house, it's unbelievable and they get get them by these little coupons during holiday buy one, get one free. And these candles that they buy are those, like you know, tiny big ass monster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're big giant monster candles and and I will tell you this, yankee candles and, uh, any candles that are in that same type of format, where the candles in a glass jar that has a cover to it, one of the safest candles you could ever buy. I mean, totally respect the how, how they're done and all that stuff Better than just a normal candle that drips everywhere it's all contained. But back to our point. Those candles will last like a year, a year, and how many candles you got in your house.
Speaker 2:You know, this is actually a funny rant. It's not even a bad thing, but it's actually a funny rant. I couldn't even tell you how many we were just discussing this, because whenever I walked in I was like oh hell, that's Yankee Candle. As soon as I walked in your house.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, that's Yankee.
Speaker 2:Candle the Yankee Candle's, burning the cinnamon.
Speaker 1:But that candle will be there for like a year, year and a half. I mean I, a year, year and a half? Well, yeah, I mean I, I don't. I don't burn candles like on a constant basis and everything, because, one, they're not that good for your ear, like your hvc system in your house and all that stuff, but at the same time like, uh, you know just that that's, that's not my whole vibe and all that stuff. But but I have, like I don't know, it feels like I have 50 of those candles in here that I mean I could probably last into my next, you know two generations of my family.
Speaker 2:Here's the funny shit though Okay, right, I put the real pine you know all over the house. It's got you know it's draped through the house, but when you walk in it smells like pine and it's a Yankee candle. It's got that pine scent, right, and it's a Yankee candle. It's got that pine scent, right, okay. So now here's when you walk in and the fake smell is pumpkin spice, dude. So you think they're like pumpkin, some kind of pumpkin pie, or something Holiday, glitter, joy, spice. Smells good, but there ain't no food.
Speaker 1:Sprinkled with ginger. Taste of cinnamon.
Speaker 2:How about sugar cookie? You walk in, you're like damn, that smells like sugar cookie. There's no sugar cookies, yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like both of our wives go overboard with the Yankee candles.
Speaker 2:I had to say that just because when I walked in he had Yankee candle burning and that just reminds me of the whole storage area that I have full of Yankee candles.
Speaker 1:Well, now that we're on, like the holiday rant, holiday rant man. You know one of the things about holidays, like don't get me wrong, now, I am not a Scrooge, I am not the Grinch, I want to be the guy that you know. I love getting together with my family during the holidays and all that stuff. But I'm telling you the stress level of the holidays that puts on my, my wife was going out of her mind last week because, okay, here I'm going to paint this picture for you. She has, she's a pilot, she has some training coming up which is stress in itself. Like just everybody that's in industry knows that you got to go to training, doesn't matter what job you do, it's stress. But it's right during the holiday season which she's got scheduled, and so her correlation with the whole holiday season. And, like we always do, we we had my wife and I don't have kids, so we give to the salvation army. Every year we take a family from the salvation army or from our local chapter and we buy a minimum of three kids, everything they probably ever won their life. But my wife goes way, way, way overboard. But you know, these are things that you did.
Speaker 1:So she was stressing out because, unfortunately, this last holiday her father had a little medical emergency and all this stuff and like that cut into her time where. Cause black Friday she was supposed to go out all day shopping so she was losing her shit. Like she came back home and she was like I don't know when I'm going to shop for these kids, when am I going to do this? I don't know. I'm going to call in sick for work. I'm like, oh, wait, wait, wait, time out. I'm like, wait, wait, wait. It's costing us to, you know, get all these presents for kids and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:But at the same time it's like you know, okay, we're not going to lose money and not go to work too, but anyways, I mean, you know I can't help, but I'm looking at you like now, right, like Clark Griswold, and I'm Eddie, I'm making a list. Man, make a list. I figure, since you're out there, you might as well pick me of a few things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, make a list. Like she's out, literally she just left and left the building here and went out doing some shopping and stuff for the holidays. But I mean, you know, the holidays they end up too, all these different types of stresses and you know, first of all, you know there's all these tight social agendas Like what do you do for the holidays? Like how do you? What's your plans? Like you got to like a family gathering. You know what, how's that go?
Speaker 2:for your social calendar. We have family come over. But the best thing I like about the believe it or not, I like it that when I'm not working it's just. It's just quiet. I know I know everybody has their families and everything, but you know, you know me, I'm working all the time. I'm around people, I'm doing all. The best thing is when I wake up and you know everything's done in the house now, so it's all Christmasy and stuff like that, but there's just me and jemma's up having coffee. So it is. I absolutely love that quiet man yeah, quiet is good, man.
Speaker 1:I I'm like my house has a lot of that, so I can't say I'm in like a deficit of that, but just the the whole like social agenda. Like this month alone here in december, we're doing two travel trips we're going out to indiana and then we're going out to vegas two different weekends. In in the whole mix of you know, the holiday season there, uh, christmas and christmas eve and the new years. I mean we've got two trips planning this.
Speaker 2:So she is like stressed I would be too, because you're you're gimp ass is gonna be in the car saying you have to pull over because I have to stretch, no, no no, no, no, it's, we've gotten.
Speaker 1:I'm a little bit farther behind on that, you know. I mean not behind, but further along than that I don't have.
Speaker 2:I can go a little bit further than a couple hours you remember that on that vegas flight, when you got to get up and start walking around?
Speaker 1:Dude, we already bought tickets. We already bought tickets, like we were like that's one of my big things of this whole thing. Like she gets so stressed out about all this stuff because we're going to be transported presents, we're going to be, all this stuff is going to be happening. So she's all the whole logistics of it's happening. But you know certain areas where we can like de-stress, like we already bought those tickets, those tickets are. I don't have to worry about standby tickets and all that stuff. You know we're going to get there and get back, whatever.
Speaker 2:You know you're talking about Vegas, and and it just brings me into, uh, you know, when you're flying out to the West coast. Um, you look out, you look out, in the middle of the desert. You ever seen those three lights out there?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, We've talked about that before. They look like blinding mirrors that are shining at you from the ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I always like to. Whenever I see something, I like to just bring it to everybody who listens. And this, actually, I've always seen this and I started wondering what this was, so I started doing a lot of research on it. This is a solar plant. Did you know that it's called Ivanpah?
Speaker 1:Ivanpah. No, I didn't know the name of it. I mean, I've seen those things so many times and you know, that's that Like we were talking about Area 57, whatever. 57, right, 51. 51 57, 57, 51, 51, what number? 57, 51, 50 something. It's something alien nation out there. It's close to that too. So uh, yeah, um, I'd seen it before, Never really like really researched into it and all that. So tell me about it.
Speaker 2:Flying out there. Well, we talk about this all the time, about with you know, as far as the green and everything is in our world and the way people are. And don't get me wrong, I'm all for that. I'm about saving our planet, doing things that we need to do, recycling and not just waste. But this place, this is actually really interesting because these are three huge towers. It's a solar facility, that it's these mirrored that are. Basically each one of these mirrors is the size of a garage door, basically, and they face towards this large mirror. Now what they do is it takes concentrated sunlight and it pushes it through this boiler that creates steam, that goes into this generator that creates electricity, and I mean that part of it is truly amazing. So it was getting hot as hell. 900 degrees, sean, wow 900 degrees.
Speaker 1:Isn't there a pizza place called 900 degrees? I know in Vegas there is one. 900 degrees is a really good spot.
Speaker 2:But this place is actually in Nevada. It's in Nevada, it's actually on the border of California and Nevada, and what it does is it provides a lot of electricity for a lot of homes. But again, going back to the green part of this, so they talk about how important this solar is and they have these videos. And you want to take a look at this thing. They have these little puffs of smoke, okay, all over this facility, that area, yeah, and when you're looking at these little puffs of smoke, you know what that is Birds.
Speaker 1:Birds, birds and bugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, what it is is that this solar plant attracts insects and the insects go in there and then the birds go after the insects. So the birds fly into this 900-degree oven and their wings burn off. It's absolutely unbelievable, wow. I mean it's sad when you're thinking about it. So we think about the part of it that it's yeah, it creates electricity, it's clean electricity, but what about the animals that you're killing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the residual effect of the whole system is actually hurting a whole entire population of animals that we don't you know. I wonder if they've even done statistics on, like, what type of birds are actually out there, because it's in the Mohawk desert, right, right, yeah, and so I mean there's not a lot of birds out in the desert, but still, I mean there are birds out there.
Speaker 2:You'd be amazed at how many of them actually are fried. It's unbelievable, though, that we look at one aspect of this and they're trying to come up with ideas to basically stop this. But see, they don't want to talk about that. They just talk about the solar energy that it creates. It goes back to, you know, the windmills. We talk about that all the time, right when we're flying out there, we see these big wind valleys, and you might not see this, this, but me and sean sees this from the skies, you see these wind farms out in the middle of of nowhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all sitting out there and everything. But people don't realize, like, what it goes into, like goes into this whole production of this stuff. Like I'm all for renewable energy, I'm all for clean energy, all that stuff, but it takes an amazing amount of non-clean energy to make those clean energy things. People don't realize that, like, everything that goes into the materials and the manufacturing of these turbines and keeping them up, it's all made of oil concrete. Like all this materials that people don't realize. Oil concrete. Like all this materials that people don't realize. Like you have to get trucks and stuff in there, all these different crews in there that are in the remote areas that have a carbon footprint, all this stuff. But I mean there's this residual effect to some of the things that are happening with it. Like the turbines Like turbines kill birds too right.
Speaker 2:Over 100,000 a year, that's the other thing too. Over 100,000 a year, that's the other thing too. Over 100,000 birds a year and it's funny you were just sitting there saying about that too. So the oil does the oil just stay in there, or do they have to replace it?
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no. I mean each one of those turbines. You know they require oil to even run. I mean, like you can't, like this isn't something like hey, we're going to shut down the oil industry and have just these turbines running, because they can't run without the oil. We're still going to need oil.
Speaker 2:So they got truck oil in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got a truck, oil, truck oil out Right, gas Manufacturer, all these. You got crews, gas, all that stuff to do it. Footprint that they're doing on each one of those things is like I don't know 40, 40, I don't know 400 foot pads of 12 foot deep concrete that these things sit on. Um, it's they're. They're a monster you gotta. If you really looked into all this information about like solar, like how solar panels are made and what they're made out of and all that stuff, people don't realize that, yes, this is a great idea. It takes a long time to manufacture these things and get them in place to sustain what we're trying to do. It's going to take them years and years and years to do this. It's never going to happen where you know it's going to be this, like next 10 years it's. You know this mandate of you know everything being electric, it's impossible.
Speaker 2:And don't get me wrong, folks Me and Sean are all about, you know, clean energy and we're all about that, anything that's going to benefit the planet. But you know you have to. Also, you know you have to look at the other side of it too, and they and that's the thing that bothers me is that if you're going to look at one side, look at the other side to be realistic about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, look at the whole entire problem of the energy that we need and you know the growth population on Earth and how we you know our footprint covers the whole thing. So it's something to be looked at, don't just, you know, look at it from one side? That's basically what we're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you get time, look at this. It's actually pretty cool. If you look it up, you can actually see some videos on YouTube about Ivanpah. It's really a very cool facility and how it does generate a lot of electricity and energy. But again, you have to look at the other side of it. I got to tell you something, though. You know, the other day I was looking at this one video and this one thing popped up, and it was an old video.
Speaker 1:Well, not an old video older one of Janet Jackson. Wow, we're like way off here. We're like went from energy to Janet.
Speaker 2:Jackson, I had to tell you this because it was actually pretty funny.
Speaker 1:What was she doing now? Wardrobe malfunction. What were you looking at?
Speaker 2:Well, I had to get this in because you know how you went to the Tay-Tay concert, sure, okay. So I had to throw this in because of that. Okay, all right. So Janet Jackson was in Hawaii in this live concert and she had this video out there and I'd just seen it. Now I go back to thinking of Janet. Little Janet, right Penny, yeah, from good times. Right, little Penny from good times Went to R good times when you went to rhythm nation, did all this other stuff all grown up and very adult and man her show in hawaii.
Speaker 2:They showed this video and it was so sexual I was like there ain't no way in hell a kid would be at that concert you know what?
Speaker 1:here's the crazy thing I went to that show, not in Hawaii, but I went to her show. That that tour strapped onto that, yeah, like she brings some dude from the audience and like strapped him onto this, this board, and then I can't. I can't remember like how many years ago this was, this tour was, but I was of the age of that. I was dreaming of being that guy on that strapped on.
Speaker 2:I bet you Tay Tay didn't strap anybody on no board.
Speaker 1:No, cheyte, not strapping people doing anything didn't take. What she did in her audience was very wholesome, like she brought a little girl up and, you know, gave her her hat and things like that. You know it was like it was, uh, very cute and very honest, but it's nothing like DeAndre Jackson jumping on top of this dude and gyrating.
Speaker 2:Man, that thing was crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very sexual. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2:I had to throw that in there just because you're Tay-Tay Concert. But, anyway, hey look, I had also seen this.
Speaker 1:But I will say this there's probably many men out there that wouldn't mind that Tay-Tay would do that, Like they wouldn't mind Tay-Tay getting a little risque.
Speaker 2:They're standing in line more for Janet than they would for Tay-Tay. It would be a new era. They couldn't imagine Tay-Tay doing that man Tay-Tay, the risque era.
Speaker 1:Who knows, it might be next. I doubt it.
Speaker 2:But I also seen this actually cool little restaurant bar that was just opening up in Phoenix.
Speaker 1:What's that? It's called Carry On, carry On. What's a bar called Carry On? What would that be about?
Speaker 2:It was like a 70s airplane-inspired cocktail bar.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool, Like a theme bar, like the whole experience going to the bar and you're doing some type of experience. There's a lot of bars out there that have these different themes and experiences, so this is like a 70s aircraft.
Speaker 2:You got to book a ticket. Oh really, yeah, you got to book a ticket. Oh really, yeah, you got to book a ticket. I mean, to actually go on there you have to book a ticket and they have a certain amount of time. You get to go in there and experience this. But it's actually really cool. I mean, it's something different. I mean it's not something you go to all the time, I guess. But actually when I was looking at it I was like, oh, that'd be kind of. You know, you're going out there for a night. Are you going out before you go out to dinner, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the bar looks like the inside of an old aircraft and I'm sure the people there are all just Served by the captain. Yeah, they're served by the crews and stuff. Yeah, first of all, nobody in this world wants the captain to serve you, nobody.
Speaker 2:But no, actually it looked like it was pretty cool. So look at that one. It's called Carry On. Carry On it's a 70s-inspired cocktail bar in downtown Phoenix. It looks really cool and I just thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're supposed to have. Like, it's so real where, like, the windows in the bar and stuff look like windows in the plane. Yeah, and it looks like you're flying to a destination.
Speaker 2:It looks like an old aircraft, I mean, but it's actually a cool version of the old aircraft.
Speaker 1:My thoughts are like how long are the flights that you have to book? So is this like an hour experience? I think it was an hour and a half Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was like an hour and a half I I think it was something like that.
Speaker 1:But that's kind of fair, like you can do it for parties too.
Speaker 2:They have it for parties too. Oh, that's cool so I mean, you could do it for party again.
Speaker 1:Carry on 70s uh inspired cocktail I gotta check that out when I'm in phoenix next time that'll be a cool thing.
Speaker 2:All right, man, let's go to the destination. Sean, I know you love this one, oh man.
Speaker 1:Our destination this week is one of my favorite destinations in the United States Aspen, colorado. If you haven't been to Aspen Colorado, I'm going to tell you right now. It doesn't matter what time of the season that you want to go. There's something to do in all seasons in Aspen, and, uh, there's a. There's some interesting things about Aspen too. Like Aspen is uh known for having the most billionaires in any city in the United States. They have more billionaires in Aspen than they do any city up towards New York as well. I mean, that's an amazing statistic. So it's a very expensive place to visit, because I will tell you that, like, you got to bring some money when you go to Aspen.
Speaker 2:I've only been to Aspen once.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I mean you've got to bring some money when you go to Aspen because it is not cheap. It is very Hollywood, all that stuff. There's a bunch of billionaires there. So the good thing about this is that the food there out of world. There are so many restaurants, so many good places to eat, but my number one place to go and I'm telling you if I'm there for a week, I'm hitting this place like three times for that week for sure. I mean there's no way I'm not going to be eating at this place. It's called the white house white house tavern. It has this. Do you like French dips?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude, I'm going to tell you right now this French dip is out of this world. You will not blow your mind. You're like come on, it's a French dip. No, they do like premium beef sliced thin. I mean the au jus that they put with it and all this stuff is just unbelievable. But highly highly recommend it. If you have time to do lunch, breakfast, dinner, something, jump into the White House Tavern.
Speaker 2:And, trust me, if he's telling you something about food, yeah, listen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and also it's not going to break your bank either. I mean, white House Tavern is reasonable, but there's so many other good places there steak places and you know all types of ethnic foods and stuff and everything that's in all over the town there. But the other thing that's really cool there is I tend to go to Aspen during the summertime, but you know the wintertime obviously it's got all those normal things that you would expect. You know it's a ski town. So you know there's Aspen Village and Aspen Mountain right there. But close to Aspen Village and Mountain there's snowboarding and skiing at Snowmass and Buttermilk Mountain. So there's lots and lots of ski areas there, lots and lots of areas, and Aspen's not in an area too in Colorado that's easy to access. So you can't just drive up from Denver. It's about a four, four, four and a half hour drive, depending on the direction. You only have two ways to get into. You either have to go over this pass, this big pass, which in the winter you're not going to do because it's normally closed, or you're gonna have to go up uh 70 to get up to um glenwood springs and head up to aspen. So you kind of like drive past it to get back to it, type of thing. Anyways, it is a really cool place.
Speaker 1:Um, there I go in the summertime and here's some inexpensive things to do. One, the number one thing to do there is go to the maroon bells. Maroon bells is a triple mountain peak top. They got all these hiking trails highly. The last time I was there there was a moose sitting in the middle lake. I mean, you're gonna see some amazing things. Um, the hikes are not very like intermediate. Um, there's lake, two lakes maroon bell lake and crater lake. Um, crater lake's like up at the base of maroon bell mountains, about about a three mile hike.
Speaker 1:The other thing that's really cool too is that, so for maroon bells, they've got this whole system there where you can do these uh bikes. So, uh, we like to rent e-bikes when we go there and, uh, you don't really need an e-bike but you can literally take this bus. So, like, to get into the maroon bell national park, you have to take a bus. It will stop you like about a mile mile. Like, to get into the Maroon Bell national park, you have to take a bus. They will stop you like about a mile mile and a half into the Canyon and these buses take you up to Maroon Bell, drop you off at the ranger station and you can hike and walk around and all this stuff, um, but you can also put your bike on the bus and you can rent these bikes and you could literally coast down from theoon bells all the way down this canyon, which is like three, four or five miles into aspen, join the river that goes right through aspen and you can take that river trail for another like 20 miles and it's all downhill, like you're not, like you're just coasting the whole way it is. It is a cool, cool experience. And in addition to that, you can, like they have places you could like stop on the way to have lunch and all this stuff. So if you just want to bike all day there, it's really cool. They also have mountain biking. All the ski slopes turn into mountain bikes trails so they take you to lifts up, drop you off on top and you do these like trails down to zigzag down the mountain.
Speaker 1:Really cool, um, and the last thing I got to tell you is um, this is another just free experience. It's called the grottos and what it is is there's a river coming down off the pass there and going through aspen, and it's created these natural caverns under the river Really, and so you can like hike into these gigantic, massive boulders that they call the grottos and the cracks between these boulders. I'm talking like these. These boulders are like as big as my house here. You know they're huge. You're going to crawl down and get into these crevices and you're in these caverns where the water has like cut through over these hundreds of years, just these caverns and wound through and stuff. It is amazing, um, and it's just like right off the road, right there, and would be totally hidden if you didn't know. You know you would never find it. It's kind of like one of these like ancient, uh, indian areas or something like that type of thing.
Speaker 2:But you know what I love about the, even the most expensive places even you say about Aspen you know being really expensive. We talked about Jackson hole and all these other places that are really expensive. But even if you don't have a lot of money, what I love about any of these places is the trails folks, man, you don't have to have a lot of money, you get there and you can enjoy what I enjoy and I love the outside and so does Sean. I know that, uh, and it doesn't take any money. You know just money to eat and but you get to enjoy everything that everybody else enjoys and it's absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1:Even Aspen is just oh yeah, I mean, there's so many hiking trails there. We could sit here and talk for hours about all the different hiking trails there and the things that are available in that area. Right there, I would tell you Aspen is a must-go-to place. I mean, if you get a chance to get up to Aspen, even if you've just been in the day there, there's just so many things to do. It doesn't matter what season you're doing. Check it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and don't be put off just because people tell you that it's a lot of money. There's a lot of things you can do that doesn't cost you.
Speaker 1:No, you can just walk around the city, just walking around and window shopping. I mean, during the summertime they have the park right there in the center of Aspen. They have the entertainment and shows and people do music and all kinds of stuff that's happening and shows, and you know, people do music and all kinds of stuff that's happening. So there's a lot of like just free things to do, to walk around people playing, concert, uh, cellos and violin, violins, and you know it's, it's, it's a big experience. So aspen, colorado, oh, one thing, one, one last thing is I gotta say this because, um, a man, john denver, has a sanctuary there and john denver's sanctuary is just a park that they've done. And here's the coolest thing you are all of the traditional, and I know this is we're aging ourself here, okay, but all these you know, rocky mountain high, and all these different songs that john denver sung, they have a sanctuary there where you can walk around in this park and on these giant boulders they've actually etched in in laser and lasered all the words to the songs.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool, but you could you imagine if they started playing the music walking around?
Speaker 1:too. Oh, people are out there singing and stuff. I mean the park you're walking in and people are sitting there looking at the boulders, singing the song and right to the whole song that's definitely showing our age, but it's beautiful. This whole thing is done in an amazing garden. It's right in the middle of the city and it is worth the experience. It's kind of like a natural. They made it into this natural amphitheater walking garden. Check it out, it's really nice.
Speaker 2:All right, aspen Colorado folks Now quote for this week the struggle you're in today is developing the strength you need for tomorrow. Don't give up.
Speaker 1:Don't give up. Don't give up.
Speaker 2:All right guys. Hey, it was a great time today, had a great time talking. I hope you guys have a great week. Look forward to next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope everybody doesn't. Don't stress out. I know it's the holiday time, you know. Try to keep those stress levels as low as possible. We'll be looking forward to talking to you next time.
Speaker 2:You know we're going to have more to talk about next week. It's getting closer to the holiday. There's going to be some crazy shit happening oh yeah, holiday crap is going to be happening. There's going to be crazy shit Anyway, you guys have a great week and we will see you next time on cabin pressure.
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