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Tragedy and Triumph: Navigating the New Year in Aviation and Entertainment
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As we kick off 2025 on "Cabin Pressure," we find ourselves celebrating our podcast’s growth while confronting sobering news from New Orleans. What drives someone to turn a place of joy into one of tragedy? Join us as we reflect on the potential for change and impactful decisions in the new year, while grappling with the heartbreaking event on Bourbon Street. Our thoughts are with the victims and their families as we seek to understand the senseless violence that has marred the start of a new year.
Navigating the holiday travel chaos, we shine a light on the challenges faced by airline crews during system failures and weather disruptions. Picture being stranded in Denver or Houston without accommodations; it’s the not-so-glamorous reality behind the aviation curtain. We discuss the nuances of airline operations, the critical importance of crew rest, and the curious superstition that mishaps often come in threes. From glitch-ridden airports to flight attendants’ tales of seating battles with passengers, it's a whirlwind of high-flying adventures and the lows that come with it.
As we wrap up, there's room for laughter and exploration. We journey through humorous layover escapades and tackle the controversial ending of "Yellowstone," pondering the show's complex narrative choices. With a detour to Boston’s historical landmarks, we celebrate its rich tapestry of culture and history, from the iconic Cheers bar to the hidden gems of the Black History Trail. Whether you're an aviation enthusiast, a TV series aficionado, or a history buff, this episode promises a mix of insight, intrigue, and a touch of humor to usher in the new year.
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headboards banging on the wall all night. In the room next door, airline pranks. What the hell just happened? Finally, we get to talk about yellowstone all this. Next on cabin pressure with sean and g Sean and.
Speaker 2:G. Welcome everyone. This is Cabin Pressure 2024 in the books 2025, starting up. Happy New Year everyone.
Speaker 1:Happy New Year, sean. Happy New Year everybody, man. Welcome to 2025. We're ready to get going.
Speaker 2:You ready? Yeah, absolutely, man. It was a really good year. I'm looking forward to this year. I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Oh, heck. Yeah, man, I was thinking there is a lot to reflect on from last year and all the good stuff that's happened to us with this podcast, and how we've grown and we continue to grow. It's amazing, man. I can't believe that we're even here.
Speaker 2:You know, what I like about the best, though, with the new year is the change, because after you reflect right, you look back and then it's the changes you get to make.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean, yeah, we got to change, we got to keep on changing.
Speaker 2:I know we have the new year's resolutions, but, um, you know, I always, I always tell people that even my, my own children is that you can screw up in life, but all you got to do is you're a decision away from a big change. Yep.
Speaker 1:And one decision, yeah, change your life drastically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, beginning of the year is the best time to make that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speaking about changes, man, I mean today, talking about changing. There's a lot of people's lives got changed this morning with some terrible news right from New Orleans Guy drives into the freaking crowd, killing people intentionally. I mean come on.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:That's not the way to start the new year, but it's a.
Speaker 2:Why do people do that? You know it's a celebration and then someone comes in and they take lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean we were just talking about Bourbon Street too, Like one of our last episodes. We were just talking about how amazing it is and everything, and it is still amazing and one of the best places to go and have a great time, but you have these idiots in the world that, for whatever reason, just want to be spoiler.
Speaker 2:But didn't this person come out and start shooting people too? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm I'm super interested to see where this goes and what. Why the you know? Why would this even happen?
Speaker 2:But um, unfortunately that's uh this morning's start to um know this, this wonderful new year yeah, well, after christmas it was a uh, it was a nightmare for a lot of passengers too. What's that? Didn't you uh see that? Uh, denver was a mess man? I mean, they had like 500 uh delays on on the saturday after christmas oh man, aviation's have have been in the news like crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean it's always in the news for a holiday, right? Everybody's concerned about their travels and getting from point A to point B and back and all that stuff, but it's been in the news a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this is what we talked about last time. When it comes to computer systems and stuff like that, as soon as one thing happens, it just shuts everything down.
Speaker 1:Yep Cascade effect right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the Houston was a mess too. Um, they, they had a mess down in Houston, and then Cancun. There there is uh, there is crews that were stuck down in Cancun. What, yeah, no hotels, absolutely a mess.
Speaker 1:First of all, being stuck in Cancun, I'm not too angry.
Speaker 2:No, but you got to have a room.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Right Now the crews didn't have a room. I don't care where you are. You can be in a freaking paradise, and if you don't have a room to stay in, that's a yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, in our job though I know this also sounds kind of bad, but in our job, though I know this also sounds kind of bad, but in our job, even in the worst scenario, you've got to try to make the best out of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do have to make the best out of it For all those people that aren't airline people. You know like airline crews. They show up to a destination and we're kind of like this is all automated, like we just literally walk to, we have a schedule and a plan and a place to go, the hotel to go to, and we walk there and we literally sign into a piece of paper, they hand us a key and we go to our room. So it's all very automated and and and all set up. And a lot of people are always like how does that work?
Speaker 1:But that's how it works until the shit hits a fan until you get there, and there they say we don't have any rooms for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, then the shit hits a fan, because no transportation, no hotels, no rooms. Yeah, I mean it can all go awry and nobody's answering the phone either.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you're thinking about canceled flights and stuff, that's cruise, like our big hang-up about air travel mess-ups when we don't have a place to go so we can get away from the public and be able to rest and regroup, that's our.
Speaker 2:that's our big inks A lot of times. Pastors don't understand when. When that happens, the crews are stuck too, oh yeah, and they can't even get out a lot of times because there's so many people going to hotels. Yeah, you know how busy it is down a baggage claim when everything cancels shit. They there ain't no way your ass is getting on a uh, a hotel van oh no even if you have a room, you still are not getting on a van. You're gonna be there for at least an hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah and and and to that effect. I mean there's all these like rules and regulations that each airline and, depending on what you know, type of aircraft you fly, and all these different rules that have we have to abide by to. You know, get, get our rest and all that stuff where I'm seeing everybody's seeing like crew delays, you know, because of crew rest and all that stuff. So all that stuff impacts the entire flow of the airline.
Speaker 2:Well, because the pilot's legalities are different from the flight attendant's Right, so that really screws it up sometimes too, and the customers don't. They don't understand. There's two different legalities.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, there's more than two, there's lots two different legalities.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, there's more than two.
Speaker 1:There's lots of different legalities. There's different FARs for like, so the little commuters have a different set of rules than the big airlines and the pilots from each group have a different set of rules to the flight attendants in each group, and so there's multiple airlines. And then there's you know we're just thinking within our box right here right now, but I mean worldwide. You know we're just thinking within our box right here right now, but I mean worldwide. You also got the international crews and stuff that are out there. They got their own rules and their own regulations. So there's lots of rules that have to go on to this business. But you got to think there is any time something happens, it doesn't matter what type of slowdown in our schedule that's going to impact those rules.
Speaker 2:And the passengers just hear about crew legalities, that's it, yeah. And the passengers just hear about crew legalities, that's it yeah.
Speaker 1:And as soon as they hear that, they know that the shit's going to hit the fan for them too. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be flying on a tired crew. They're in their 16th hour of flight, yeah, and you're flying into some really shitty weather yeah, and you've got shitty weather yeah. That's not the crew that I want to be flying me.
Speaker 2:Nope, hey, did you see the incidents that happened?
Speaker 1:Terrible man. There's like compounding incidents Two, three, four incidences. A lot of incidents happen in the last, like 48, 72 hours.
Speaker 2:Well, in our industry, this is one thing that does happen. When there is an incident with an airline, especially when there's a loss of life, flight attendants usually take a deep breath. Oh yeah, because we realize this usually happens in threes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, man, there's, like, you know, that's the worst part of our job. Like every day we get up and we put on our uniform and we head out to work and you know, the last thing, you know the is that worst case scenario to happen. We don't want, you know, nobody wants that to happen, but I mean, that's always in the back of our head. But every time one of these incidents happen, you know, that brings it to our forethought and uh, you know, you kind of like retune yourself, yeah, I mean, I mean I don't know about you, but every time I see one of these it's like, uh, man, you know, I want to, I want to do my 32nd review.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but three of them in 24 hours, that's that's, that's unheard of. I mean three of them in 24 hours, but the first one and, like I said, I don't like to talk about it a lot, but I'm sorry, but it made no sense. So, sean, at the end of that runway they had a concrete wall that was crazy Dude.
Speaker 1:That was that incident over in Korea. I mean, I don't know why. It's going to be very interesting to see why they decided, or even if they have any information that comes back to why they decided, to run land at this runway. But I mean, if you don't have any hydraulics and you don't have, you know you're breaking speed and all these things. I'm not a pilot, so, but I am pretty technical about, like, what goes into aviation and stuff and you too, like our experience, we know if you don't have all these things that we can like slow down plane, you need a lot of room.
Speaker 2:Well, what was at the other end of the runway?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, we need a lot of room. You don't want to pick an airport that was like this, where at the end of the runway there was a brick wall.
Speaker 2:Well, if there's a brick wall at one end, is it open at the other end? Why didn't they just land the other direction?
Speaker 1:Yeah, other direction. Yeah, other direction. I mean there's all these that like or go to another airport. I mean there's just like wow, I mean then the amazing part.
Speaker 2:The amazing part was the two people that survived.
Speaker 1:This crash was uh, the two crew members that were in the tail of the aircraft Cause.
Speaker 2:If you see, yeah, if, if I mean if you, if you want to go see this and without um worried about you, know flying, know flying um, you'll see that this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1:When this aircraft hits this, the tail separates, oh yeah, and that's the only way they survived yeah, there's the really like eerie part about that incident too was like they had video, it was like of the entire thing. It was like almost like as if it was planned like here's this 4k you know high definition video of this plane.
Speaker 2:You don't rarely get uh incidents where it's like you know the best uh recording of what's what's happening now you might have that down in florida, um, because there's a lot of people down in lauderdale that are at the ends of the runway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's normally like a phone or something like this, like professional, like this was like news covering, or something like here comes an incident, we're kind of tracking it and this happened right in front of them, type of thing.
Speaker 2:Aren't you kind of surprised that airlines don't I mean the airports don't have cameras that record landings?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you would think in this day and age like that would be like standard technology equipment in the airports.
Speaker 2:but it was truly amazing, though, that two crew members actually survived. That, I mean it really was. I mean, when you seen that it was horrific, crazy, and then, uh, then you had another one that, uh, there was smoke in the cabin that had, that was really bad too yeah, I mean the other incidents were.
Speaker 1:I mean this that one we we just talked about was catastrophic. I mean a lot of people lost their lives there. But the other ones they were all like incidents that were actually positive outcomes.
Speaker 2:Everybody got out of the planes and stuff like that I think somebody died from the one that was the smoke in the cabin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean one person did. Yeah, I'm just like compared to that other one in Korea. It was horrific yeah, but anyways, man, enough about this accident and stuff and down stuff. I mean, let's get funny, well all right, one little quick thing there.
Speaker 2:Here's a funny thing they had uh, you know, you have a passenger at the overwing exit. They just open the freaking exit and then take their bags and exit. What? Yeah, they just, they just left, decided to leave the plane a little early. What are you? I mean, are you kidding me? What are you thinking?
Speaker 1:dude, first of all, I'm always like I don't know about you. Like every time I'm like on on, you know, I'm working or whatever, and I'm looking at, I'm suspicious of the people by the windows. Yeah, because you, you and I know how easy it is to open that window in certain, in certain situations, whatever. But it's like I mean just to get some asshole to just like pop that window and freaking and this guy goes out and sits on the wing with his luggage better be careful.
Speaker 2:There's a big engine out there though, too yeah, I mean it's like I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Nope, yeah, well that video, that video that actually the person left with their bag too, and they were just sitting on the wing yeah unbelievable and, depending on when this happens, like how this is going to impact everybody after and before, is going to be uh, pretty, pretty wild, because I mean, if you open those windows, windows too early and we're all fueled up and those wings are flexed and all this stuff, I mean that window's not getting closed up anytime soon.
Speaker 2:Nope, hey, how do you feel about those passengers that sneak up into the economy plus section of the aircraft?
Speaker 1:Dude, I hate that stuff. I mean, first of all, on our personal, where we, the airline we work for, you know, there's different classes of seats, right? So I mean you, you each section, just like if you're at a freaking hotel or you're on a freaking cruise or whatever, each one costs different prices and wherever you're going to set down in or accommodate, right so I mean there's really no discussion here, like it's very clear, each one of these sections are, you know, cost different prices. But when you get these people that come on the plane and they think that they're going to treat this like the bus, yeah, but when they get pissed off at you because you end up moving them out of that seat, yeah, I'm not when they get pissed off.
Speaker 1:It doesn't even affect me whatsoever. I'm like stupid is as stupid does. Get out of the seat.
Speaker 2:I like the conversation though that occurs. There's this guy. I went back there and he he was in a exit row and I told him I said, is this your seat? And he said, no, I'm in the back. And I'm like, well, then you got to go to the back and he goes. Wait a minute, he goes seriously. Look at my legs. I'm 6'6" and I was like, well, were your legs shorter when you bought the ticket?
Speaker 1:First of all, I'm 6'2" and I hate sitting in the economy and it's not because of the seat. It not because of the seat, it's because I don't fit, I mean as a six two. I'm just like right at that cusp right there where it's like just beyond, you know, comfortableness. I mean my wife's like five, five, six, five, four or whatever, but she's short and she she fits in there, just perfect. But I mean for these guys that you come walking down, you see these guys are like seven foot, like they're like bent up like a pretzel in these row or they're on the aisle and they're like sticking their legs all the way down the aisle and stuff, like that's where they're going to be the whole flight, which we know they're not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and a discount center seat.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean, it's just uh, I don't get it Like spend some money, man. If you're that big freaking, make yourself comfortable, get into a seat or purchase a seat that you're going to fit into.
Speaker 2:But sometimes online when you're doing this like 75 bucks right, 60, 75 bucks for the upgrade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, there's like always an upgrade to like move into a better seat, things like that. Like do this, like make yourself comfortable, but when you come on board and you're like now, you're like you throw that on us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but then the price goes up to 130 right it's like 130 140 as soon as you get on the plane, but you can do it online for like 70.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's more expensive for us to do it than you them to do it before they get there. But it's like why would you put yourself even in that situation? And then they come in, like I was saying they throw it on us, like, oh you know it's empty, why can't I what you're going to do this to me?
Speaker 2:Right, it happens every single day.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing shit to you, dude, you did it to yourself.
Speaker 2:Every single day. I don't care if there's a seat that's available. There's that one person. And they know too, because they wait until the end of the boarding process. Yeah, and they don't know that. We actually look at them and we know, we already know, we already know what seats are available and what are not available.
Speaker 1:There's a combination of things happening here. One is you have these people that are one, they're just scammers and they know the system. They're trying to scam it. And then they have the other ones that are like they're coming from these lower cost carriers that they, like you know you can sit anywhere type of thing, get on the plane, just do that.
Speaker 1:I mean, southwest has already changed that right, that whole policy oh yeah they get assigned seats now because it's it just doesn't work, like it's the bus system doesn't work. So, um, you got those people. But the ones that are like golden to me are these ones that come on board and they're in the back and you have this like empty section and they stop you and they're being polite and they're like hey, um, do you need any volunteers to sit in the exit row? Yeah, no right, like volunteers, like you're like okay, um, you haven't flown since the 50s. You know like this is, we don't take volunteers, nor do we need any. But those to me are like precious because it's like you know, that's just, that's a total inexperience, right?
Speaker 2:Well, what's funny, though, is when you look back through the cabin, you'll see like four or five rows of the Economy Plus section that are empty, and then they're all packed in like sardines, and nobody wants to pay any extra money for the leg room, they just want you to give it to free.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's all, that's all ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen. Um had a question for you. When you do a load position a lot, yeah. All right. So um was on this crew as a load position doing a layover.
Speaker 1:In load position so people understand what a load position, like the airlines, like each aircraft has a minimum crew and so the airlines kind of like schedule the crew members in these core groups so you'll have these core flight attendants. So like, if, if a plane like seven, three, seven, needs three flight attendants, we need four actually to fly it, we need four to actually fly it. Those, uh, the fourth one is what we call a load Um, some people, you know chasers, there's all kinds of names for those, that person, but that's what G is referring to.
Speaker 2:All right, so low position. Basically I'm by myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're by yourself. You are a solo flight attendant. It is one of the worst positions to be in as a new flight attendant because you're by yourself, and when we say you're by yourself, you're by yourself.
Speaker 2:But we're old, so it really don't matter.
Speaker 1:For us it doesn't matter because we know what the hell we're doing, but for a new flight attendant if you imagine this young flight attendant going out there and they get this position and they're going to the hotels by themselves, they're going to transportation by themselves.
Speaker 2:It's kind of scary, it's kind of funny. You just said young flight attendant because this is kind of the story that I'm going to get into. So I was up there and I was going up to my room and I just got back from the gym and I was walking into my room, had my workout wear on and you know how the flight attendants are coming up into the hotel in the hallway. So they're following me and I'm saying hello to them as we go in. I'm in the room next to this other young flight attendant. She was going into the room, said hello and just basically went in the room, right? So you know, having the layover and as the night's going on, all of a sudden you start hearing some other sounds going on in the other room.
Speaker 1:Oh, the next door, next room, was like being loud.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was like a play-by-play. Sean a play-by-play.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what type of sounds were you?
Speaker 2:hearing, whoever it was, that headboard was just banging against the wall.
Speaker 1:Oh, man, that's the worst man it well, I mean it is. It's good and bad, like it's like, depending on your situation when we we were younger, I mean. You're like fantasizing, like, wow man, somebody's having some fun next door.
Speaker 2:You kind of laugh about it because I mean we've all been there, but here it is, this bed banging against my wall and I'm listening to this saying okay, well, you know, have to have to have to hear this because these walls are like paper, yeah. But then I'm getting the play by play. I'm sitting there going. Man, there's a lot of activity going on in this thing.
Speaker 1:This is all good, as long as it doesn't go on for too long.
Speaker 2:Okay, so then it stops. But it did, it was actually, it was actually went through the night, but uh, that's not really the funny part of it. So finally get to bed and I go downstairs.
Speaker 1:And when we go downstairs, a lot of times we'll meet our crew especially when we got an early check-in, yeah, for the first time, like we're talking about. Back to that load chaser deal.
Speaker 2:That's that person that we're like meeting, maybe for the first time, for that day, yeah, we have the rest of the crew down there, so on the van, a lot of times we have the same van going to the airport, sure. So I'm down there and I meet the other crew and as I'm sitting there, this one young girl comes down and she starts talking and she's like, oh my God, I'm exhausted, exhausted. She's telling this other flight attendant, she goes, what's on, she goes, I didn't sleep at all last night, right, and I looked at her and and it was the girl that I had seen in the hallway and I don't think she actually she realized she didn't recognize you uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So we're getting on the van and and she's sitting there telling this girl. She's like, oh, she goes. I was up all night and she goes. I'm exhausted. And and I'm sitting there thinking's like, oh, she goes, I was up all night and she goes. I'm exhausted. And I'm sitting there thinking, yeah, so am I and she goes. Why are you exhausted? I said this girl next to me she was going at it so much and screaming and yelling and it was literally like a play by play and I was like what room were you in? And all of a sudden the van got real quiet and I was like man, I know she didn't admit it.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. She was like, oh, I don't even know she goes. I just wasn't feeling that good. I was like, yeah, whoever was next to me was feeling really good because, like I said, I heard this all night long.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:But you know that does happen on our cruise. I mean, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1:You know, that does happen on our cruise. I mean, it was pretty funny, dude. It happens Not even on a cruise.
Speaker 2:I mean the hotels everybody's been in hotels where we hear some of those audio sounds throughout the hotel. It was funny because you know when you're looking at this person and you know it was them and I don't know if she knew it was me or not. But oh my god, it was so funny when, when she was on advance, she's like, oh, she goes. I didn't sleep at all and I was like, well, no, you didn't. I mean, your head was going against that, that freaking backboard or something.
Speaker 1:I mean it was crazy yeah, when you're a young flight attendant and, as we were reflecting back years ago, sure, those those nights and stuff, like those short nights and stuff, we were all about it no, we just. But now our old, now our old asses are like can we get some sleep, please, can you? Can you get it done?
Speaker 2:we used to fly with skip. Uh, he used to, uh, he, he was a pile for us. He, he loved to go out and we used to go out and listen to these, um, these bands and he would be like, hey, gary, go get some girls, I'm going to pay for their drinks. Skip was a heavyset guy, but man, he was funny.
Speaker 1:First of all that's an understatement Heavyset this guy. He was one of the biggest pilots I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:Funny as hell, though he was the most jovial, funny guy that you'd ever meet.
Speaker 1:But you'd look at him and you'd be like, and we were flying like smaller aircraft back then. But you were like literally in the back of your head like how is this motherfucker getting in the cockpit? How is he squeezing into this thing? Because he was that big.
Speaker 2:Man, we were laying over there in Atlanta and I remember we went to this I think it was a Renaissance up there and they used to have these bands that played there every Saturday night. They had this one girl band that was up there and Skip had me go talk to these girls, bring these girls over, and they were talking to us and we had a good time at a party, you know, and Skip, next thing you know, invites them back to the hotel. So you know he's over there buying extra stuff, drinking, having a good time. But man, did we have a lot of fun when we were young?
Speaker 1:Dude, I got a skip story for you. This is kind of like this takes me way, way back, because right now, as we're flying into this stuff, everything's like automated and electronic and we have, like these electric our manuals. Turn to these. Now we're like they're on an iphone and uh, so back in the day, when we were, our manuals were actually real manuals, you know, like flip page manuals, you know I'm talking about. Oh yeah, we had to do these like revisions, weekly, monthly, like we had to like update these manuals. It was such a pain in the ass. But back to skip.
Speaker 1:We're flying with skip and we're having a good time and we're on this like like four-day trip and we're, you know, every, every layover was a good time. We're going out, having drink and party and having good goofing off. Anyhow was fo that we're flying with. He gets into this thing where we're like pulling pranks on each other and he pulled a prank on skip and where he was like flying this. Uh, you know we're flying along and he had taken skip's manual. You know, like, when they opened up their manual, they had the pilots back. Then you said, carry these giant square bags they call them brain bags and, uh, all their manuals were in there, so these things were like heavy, too like they're crazy, I mean 15, 20 pounds, I mean they're, they're freaking heavy and uh.
Speaker 1:So this dude decides to play a joke on skip and he takes a section of his manual you know whatever his uh manual is and he starts taking chunks of it and like reorganizing it so like when he was like flying, he like flips open a section and it'd be like what the hell you know like what, what's going on here? But I mean and you're thinking like the safety of this whole thing that the fo has the right manual, but he's like you know, he's screwing around with yeah, just jacking with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so I'm involved with this. But you know, weeks, months go by and you remember us back in the day when we went to training Once a year, flight attendants had to go to recurrent training is what we call it and so we got to get requalified and we got to reopen the doors and all that stuff. It's like once a year training. Well, back in the day we had a 50-question test that we had to. When we walked through the training door, that was the first thing you had to do, right? I remember that, and it was an open book, right? Yep, so here I am, I walk into training and sit down and I'm like I'm ready to go. And guess what happens? They jacked your manual up. We have a timed test here. This 50-question test is timed, but it's open book. So I opened my manual and I flipped to the section. I'm thinking like I'm like dc9, boom. And you know, here's a 747. They jacked my shit up.
Speaker 1:I was like in panic mode. I'm running around like I'm like trying, I'm like scrambling my head how I only got 30 minutes to finish this thing, like I gotta do this off the top of my head, like I'm gonna have to pass this off top of my head. And uh, finally, I was like you know, I I got to do this off the top of my head, like I'm going to have to pass this off top of my head. And finally, I was like you know, I like went to the one of the restrictions. I was like I have no time to talk about this right now, but I need another manual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause you. You can only miss so many of those, and then fail.
Speaker 1:I need another manual.
Speaker 2:Cause some of the stuff you have to look up cause you just don don't there's too much to remember. But uh, yeah, that was my skip skip story but I got jacked. I, I, I've got so many skip stories it's not even funny, but that was that renaissance one. It was hilarious. There was a lot more to it, but, um, me and him, me and him had a lot of fun back then. He was a good guy. Hey, let's lighten it up a little bit. Yeah, yellowstone yellowstone.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go, man. This is spoiler alert. Alert everyone. Spoiler alert. We're getting ready to talk about Yellowstones. We had a fan that actually contacted us and was like you need to let us know.
Speaker 2:If you're like Sean and you don't watch the damn show for a freaking month when it's over with, then it's a spoiler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's not a spoiler anymore. We have watched it. We have both completed Yellowstone, and let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:Well, I completed a lot, a lot earlier than you did. All right. So, Yellowstone, what did you think of the ending?
Speaker 1:Man, you know what the whole thing about Yellowstone is like. You know, I mean both of us we've said this before Kevin Costner like really made that show. So I mean to make a whole season about Kevin Cosner and you know they, they killed him in the beginning and, um, you know the the whole um, how they wrapped up and how they were going to try to save Yellowstone, and then you know what they're, what they eventually did with the Indians and stuff. I mean, yeah, good solution. Um, the show's over. You know, like I mean there's just like no future to the show. So, like like it was an end, it sucked yeah.
Speaker 2:I hated that they killed him in the first episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Well, Kevin didn't want to do it. You know they had that, whatever dispute or whatever they had.
Speaker 2:All you seen was a body. You knew it wasn't even him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the whole thing was like you know the whole story. They had to rewrite the whole story because he wasn't participating, whatever. But it could have been so much better. I mean so much better, I mean the show, the whole season. It was good it had this Yellowstone action. It was depressing on like you kind of knew things were wrapping up. I mean like the auction part of it. Like the auction part, I was like I was a little getting a little depressed on the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Right, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you, you like you, knew this is the end of it. It was like the whole show was wrapping up to the end and you didn't know how it was, how it was going to.
Speaker 2:I mean, they did kind of leave you in suspense a little bit because you really didn't know. I mean you knew that they were selling everything or getting sold off. But you know, you got a little bit of an insight of Casey's background as a SEAL.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean like that whole storyline, like they touched upon it early, early in the first years and stuff like that, but they never really brought it up first years and stuff like that, but they never really brought it up. And then you know, when he started making his contacts and stuff like that, which, uh, shout out to all my military buddies, that I feel like I have to, even not being a CEO like me, reaching out to a military buddy, I feel like I can do a little bit of the same thing, like if I needed, needed help, those guys will come running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's lifetime. Yeah, I always thought that.
Speaker 1:It's a brotherhood that you're going to always reach out to and they're going to have your back and stuff. But obviously I don't have any connections like a SEAL level.
Speaker 2:No, that'd be next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like next level, but it's like you always know, your military buddies have your back.
Speaker 2:I thought that was really cool because if you know anything about the SEALs, that is truly them.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah. I mean it's like we've had a couple of pilots that are SEALs you know, ex-seals and stuff that we've worked with and what's really interesting to me about Navy SEALs is that there's no stereotype to them.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Like you would think that they're going to be like this muscular, you know, like you know, totally fit guy. I mean, I've seen guys that are like five, four, you know it's skinny, it's all mental, it's all mental. The size and your ability. I mean, obviously they're going to carry their weight and all that stuff. But, and all that stuff, but what your typical, what you think or your stereotypes that you're putting on to a Navy SEAL? That's normally not it.
Speaker 2:I just liked how his character I mean he clicked from basically this cowboy and all of a sudden you've seen this literally this Navy SEAL warrior come out of him. I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, but as far as the Indianian reservation, um, I was kind of surprised that it went there. I mean, I was glad that it did because they weren't going to develop anything on it, so that was kind of cool well, I had already figured out the solution.
Speaker 1:Like I was figuring out the solution, like I knew I was like sell this somebody, you know, turn it around, you know give it and they can give it back to you or something like that. You know, like there's so many like legal ways to like get around, like giving a piece of property and giving it back to you and then get out of those taxes that they were under and all that stuff. So I had already kind of like had that in the back of my mind. I just didn't put it into the indian reservation deal, you know like you were looking into it deeper than me.
Speaker 2:I was sitting there going this sucks, this sucks man. This is going to be over soon.
Speaker 1:Well, I was trying to figure out how they're going to get out from under those taxes. I'm in all that land and stuff First of all. Could you even in your mind imagine that amount of land?
Speaker 2:No, I said that a thousand times what it looks like. Well, when he stood on his porch and they said how much do you can?
Speaker 1:see as far as you can see and beyond yeah, I mean, that's just mine and you're looking at a mountain yeah, it is, it is mind-blowing, there's people out there that own that much property from their families.
Speaker 1:It's incredible right, but you have to maintain and you have to pay those taxes on that. Property taxes kill you. Yeah, I had a buddy had a piece of land up in Pennsylvania Like he had been gifted and he was like it was the worst gift in the year because all I did every year was pay taxes on the land. He was like it's nice to have a piece of land, but it's like I wasn't doing anything with it, I wasn't living on it, it wasn't you know, I wasn't even temporarily using it once a year or anything. It was just. It was like a burden given to me, like land is expensive, no matter if you own it or not.
Speaker 2:But you know, it was kind of cool how they they separated Rip and Beth and they they went on with their family, and then how, how Casey went on with his family, and then Jamie, it went to the train station.
Speaker 1:And deserved it. Oh yeah, yeah, and deserved it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, you knew that was going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that was just inevitable. I mean I'm surprised they didn't kill off Jamie a long time ago, but he was a great weasel, right. I mean his part in the whole thing. They got that actor. Uh did a phenomenal job with him good ending for him, though yeah, yeah, yellowstone.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I mean to sum it up like yellowstone was uh, it sucks, yeah, it sucked because, you know, last night for the new year, I'm watching uh, they had a, uh, a whole marathon of Yellowstone and there I was watching it the whole time, enjoying it, thinking this sucks, this is the end of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I was like yeah, it was over, it was done, hey, but hey, land man, land man dude. You've got to be when we talk about land, man, you're going to be like laughing your ass off off. We're going to have to record some of the one-liners that Billy Bob Thornton says.
Speaker 2:He's funny. Anyway he is funny. I mean just that stupid look on his face too. I mean Billy Bob Thornton, he's funny, he's a good actor too. He's played some really good roles too, yeah.
Speaker 1:Bad Santa. I'm looking forward to you to see that. Yeah, this is like Landman is Bad Santa, but just a loyaler More Bad Santa shit.
Speaker 2:All right, man, let's go to the destination.
Speaker 1:Destination man. Destination this week is going to be Boston.
Speaker 2:Boston.
Speaker 1:Man, you know, boston is like one of those destinations that it doesn't matter what time of year you go there. Boston there's something to do and Boston's, you know, just like we were talking about in like Cleveland last week there is so much to do in Boston. You can't just put your finger and be like this is the one thing that you got to do in Boston. There's just too much to do. But we're going to just highlight some of the amazing things that I've done in the past on layovers and we're going to just highlight some of the amazing things that I've done in the past on layovers. And these are like a lot of these things are free. Like I'm one of those things. Like I get into the city, I just do free shit.
Speaker 2:Two things come to mind with me, with Boston, what's that? Chowder, chowder.
Speaker 1:We love chowder man. I mean any legal seafood. Yeah, like hit legal seafood in the airport. Highly recommend checking out legal seafood. Grab your bowl of chowder.
Speaker 2:Big difference than what we used to pay for chowder Two bucks. We used to pay $2 for a big-ass bowl years ago.
Speaker 1:This is just aging us. Big bowl years ago, Two freaking dollars. We would get two bucks and we'd get this gigantic thing of chowder Like all the crews would run off and grab a bowl of chowder. Now they wouldn't give you a spoon. Now it's like 15 bucks.
Speaker 2:But the other thing, before you get started about Boston Norm, norm, norm, cheers, cheers. Yeah, go to Cheers, right.
Speaker 1:Cheers to me was kind of an anticlimactic thing. Like I love Cheers. You know us growing up, it's an era thing. Like our audience out here most of the people have like all watched Cheers, right. But when you go actually and see the bar and see how small it is and everything and it's just like, okay, this is the bar.
Speaker 2:You still got to go. It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic. Okay, this is the bar you still gotta go.
Speaker 1:It's iconic, yeah, it's iconic, you gotta. You gotta go. It's fun. It's a fun place to go. You gotta always check out the cheers bar, but in that whole area, like in that area of like, where cheers is, is a huge beautiful park right in front of it. Um, like in the summertime you can be out there. You can, like they got like flamingo paddle boats and stuff like that you can go out in the lake there and paddle around, uh, from that area, all around that area.
Speaker 1:The uh freedom trail, um in Boston, uh, kind of winds all through Boston. That is like one of my. I would tell you, if you're on a layover or staying in Boston, you just want to do something free. The freedom trail goes all over Boston I'm talking everywhere all over, up and down the mountains and hills there, and it's all free. So you can literally walk the Freedom Trail and get this history of how we became free, the whole history behind Boston and Paul Revere and all the different things that happened with the Boston Tea Party and everything that happened in Boston. It's really, really cool. But in addition to that, I would highly recommend that people don't miss this there's also a black history trail there that is the Underground Railroad. So it shows you all these different places where they had these people and these families that had hidden slaves and ex-slaves in their basements and stuff for this Underground Railroad. And you're thinking Boston, like this, is way north.
Speaker 2:When we were kids, we had to learn about that in history. That's the difference. They don't teach them about that now. But when we were in high school, we had to learn about that in history. That's the difference. They don't teach them about that now, but when we were in high school we had to learn about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean so there's two trails Like the big one that you're going to go to Boston. Everybody's talking about Freedom Trail, but there is another trail there called the Black History Trail and I highly recommend checking it out. A little shorter trail, but cool places to stop. There's all kinds of museums and stuff involved with all these this whole entire trail too. The other thing that you do in boston here is, uh, you know, I mean it's all the sites, you know fenway park, you can, if you want to go see him, uh, historical, I got a picture of jackson standing in front of fenway park.
Speaker 2:My son is. It was big baseball player, yeah and uh, and I got a picture of him, uh, standing in front of uh Fenway park when he was when he's a young boy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean just the um history and the iconic uh memories and stuff that come from Fenway park. I mean that's just to be, to be there. You don't have even go in, just like you're saying like, uh, it is, it is cool. The other thing is really cool. The other thing that's really cool in Boston, too, is that not only is it, you know, the shopping there is like amazing. It's all spread out. It's like there's shops everywhere.
Speaker 1:But one of my favorite places to go is actually like there's like a food trail there, like there's so much food in Boston. I mean, we were talking about chowder, but there's a Quincy Market Seafood, everything. If you want to go on a food adventure, get yourself to Quincy Market. It's an indoor market that, from end to end, is nothing but vendors selling every type of seafood and pastries and sandwiches. Man, it's freaking gourmet to delight. You're going to, you're going to. You're not going to find something you're going to want to eat there.
Speaker 1:But the last thing you do like in the food, the number one thing that when you go to Boston that you have to get, is you've got to experience a lobster roll. I mean lobster rolls are freaking amazing. You can get them all over to Boston. There's lots of different places to get them and you ask anybody, they'll be like, oh, this place is the best and this place is the best. But believe me, they're all good and they're not cheap anymore. I mean, we used to be able to go and, like I was we were just talking about this before on the show we were like, hey, you know, we used to be able to fly into Boston and we would literally get coolers of live lobsters and lobsters were like I'm talking like $5 a pound, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It was unbelievable. Oh yeah, you could take the whole box home with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we would all like the crew would have like freaking coolers of lobsters and we'd like, oh, we're going to Boston, we got to get some lobsters and bring back home, you know, because it was just so cheap to buy them there. But man has that changed. You don't see boxes anymore. No, you don't see. You don't see people, you know, transporting lobsters anymore. The lobsters have freaking gone, skyrocket high and all this stuff and uh interesting thing about uh, lobsters and a lot of I don't know if a lot of people know this, but like lobsters was like, like you know, terrible, like bad food. They used to feed their prisoners in Boston lobster, that was the food they would get, lobster three times a day.
Speaker 2:Not that case now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a long, long time ago.
Speaker 2:I don't think you're going to see a lobster roll in the penitentiary.
Speaker 1:I don't think the penitentiary today is having lobster rolls, but yeah, they used to feed the prisoners lobster because it was like considered, like you know, varmint. You know, here's like feeding rats to the prisoners. But yeah, that's it. But Boston, man, there's just so much to do. Man, get to Boston, and it doesn't matter what time of year. I mean, I will tell you all the warmer times of of years spring, summer um, they are phenomenal. Get out just to be a walk in boston and the whole experience and the, the feeling there. But, uh, anytime's great. But the other thing about to boston too don't have to not mention this is that they have an amazing theater district like you can go see all kinds of cool shows and stuff. Like blue man group has been there for years and years I mean, I mean decades. It seems like a really cool shows and stuff that you could see there as well. So Boston's got everything to offer. Check it out.
Speaker 2:Very cool little place. All right, boston folks, and don't forget to go to cheers. I had thrown that. I like cheers.
Speaker 1:Right, that was funny All right.
Speaker 2:Funny, all right, listen, uh. So the quote for the beginning of this year the best time for new beginnings is now absolutely.
Speaker 1:Here's the start, start of the year, so we started 2025, folks, uh again. Happy new year everyone let's get it on we are gonna have a great year this year.
Speaker 2:You guys have a great year and we will see you next time on Cabin Pressure, next time. See ya, see ya.
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