Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"
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Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"
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What happens when life's unexpected challenges collide with the relentless pace of winter? Join us as we share personal stories of stubborn car trunks and icy roads, leading into a poignant discussion on the emotional upheaval of family members entering hospice care. We'll explore the complex emotions that surface when dementia affects our loved ones, revealing the universal pain and protective instincts that come when navigating such intimate and challenging experiences.
From there, we shift our focus to the unpredictable world of aviation, where flight delays and weather disruptions are just part of the game. Through personal anecdotes, we reveal the surprisingly vital role of Jacksonville Center in Florida's air traffic management and the insights gleaned from chaotic, yet indispensable, moments in the airline industry. As a lighthearted intermission, we compare the fierce USA and Canada hockey rivalry to an intense MMA match, before dissecting the intricate dynamics of business strategies and the transformative impact of AI on the industry.
We'll also take you on a delightful exploration of Spokane's scenic beauty and culinary gems, from scenic scootering trails to the mouthwatering offerings at local hotspots. And if you're in the mood for strange airplane conversations, we'll entertain you with quirky historical tidbits, like the time a child was mailed to grandparents in 1914. Through laughter and reflection, we emphasize the importance of patience and persistence on the winding road to success. Don't miss this engaging episode that captures the essence of navigating life's challenges with wit and wisdom.
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Is it safe to fly today, ai? What's going on and why should we care? Parents mailed their child to their grandparents. All this next, on Cabin Pressure, with Sean and G hey, everyone welcome.
Speaker 2:This is cabin pressure. Another week went by, sean.
Speaker 1:Another week. Here we are in the beautiful USA in the freaking frozen tundra.
Speaker 2:It's freezing our asses off this week.
Speaker 1:Dude, I am like this shit is so cold. It is so cold right now. I mean, this is the one part of like winter that I hate Like it's so freaking cold when it gets down to those single digits. It's like that just cuts you through the bone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you take your bag out, man. You know how your lift your trunk, lift it open. Shit don't work, man, it just falls right back down. You got to make sure you don't get your head hit. I mean, you know it is just so brutal cold.
Speaker 1:I mean, between the two things I don't like about the cold and the salt.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then the salt everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the salt wasn't even working. It's so damn cold.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I mean, yeah, there's a certain that's one thing a lot of people probably don't know about cold is that salt only works in a certain temperature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like between a certain temperature, then it's just rock shit that gets tied up in your car. A certain temperature, then it's just rock shit that gets tied up in your car.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just like dirt, white, freaking dust everywhere you got a nice car.
Speaker 2:The car doesn't look like shit. You just, I mean, take it out of the car wash. Next thing, you know, it's all covered in salt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I was staying at a hotel last week and it was like they kept mopping the floors with the people walking in and like salt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do the same thing at the gym, so what's been going on with you this week?
Speaker 1:You know this is the bad part of the show and life and we're dealing with my father-in-law. He's in. We just put him in hospice and I think it's for the better. You know it's like it is. It's you know this like we've talked about this stage of life right now, like how we are, how these parents that are getting older and stuff like that, and everybody's going, you know, going to more funerals than we were going to weddings now at our age and shit. But uh, yeah, the father-in-law is just like, um, he is on his way out and it's a slat, very sad, slow moving process and it's a very sad, slow-moving process.
Speaker 2:I think that's one of the hardest things, because I remember when my mom passed and you go down there and you spend the time with them. It's probably one of the hardest things. I mean there's two sides of that, right. I mean there's one side of it to where you think about. You just miss them, right? You know you're going to miss them and you know what's going on and you already know you're going to miss them. Your heart's hurting and everything.
Speaker 2:But then there's the other side is whenever you see your parents and they're in pain and I mean really, really bad pain. If you love your mom and dad I mean really love them it reaches down into the inside of your soul and rips it out and all you want to do is take away the pain. And I think that's one of the hardest things to deal with as a child, when you have that love for your parent and you're sitting there watching them and all you want to do is take away their pain because their whole life they took yours away and you're sitting there and for me right now it's very emotional because I remember those moments with my mom and it's just gut wrenching and I can't even imagine. I can't imagine being in your wife's shoes right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the family right now is like going through all the emotional roller coasters of the events, because not only is, like you know, he's 94 years old and my mother-in-law is 94 years old and she's got dementia, so and he's got like the early onset of dementia is happening with him too, because he's getting very confused and I don't know if it's like a combination of the process of you know, his health state or whatever, but his but his mind's not totally there too.
Speaker 1:You can clearly see that, hear that from the things that are happening and stuff. But to reason with them is also like this mental struggle, like you cannot, it's hard to take yourself out of the, the, the, the natural, like wanting to care for them, like you know, be able to say, hey, you know, I want to reason with them, I want to provide them with everything to make them as comfortable as possible and all that stuff. But at the same time there's some like requests and stuff that they talk about and stuff that just like you're not really talking to your parents anymore, you know, because your parents they've gotten to the stage where the mind's not there anymore, right, and so, um, it's really really difficult to go just the whole process and I'm sure a lot of people out there can relate to what's happening and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But that's uh, you know, that's what I mean. You know when you're going through, I know exactly what you're saying, cause when my mom was down there, it you know.
Speaker 2:The one thing is is that you become their protector too, because you know you make sure that nobody is doing anything that they're not supposed to be doing. I know that, and the one thing that I can say with this as being a parent and I did see this with my mom and when my mom was going through this is amazing is that when we knew that my mom was passing and the most amazing thing is not about, again, money or anything that you have, but when you open your eyes and the people that you love the most is are there, standing right there, and you know they're. They're with you. Uh, as you're passing over, I think that that there's nothing better than that, because you did it right, Because your kids, your kids, are right there and they wouldn't be anywhere else, and I think that that's that's, that's truly what it is about life is is that you know when, when your mom and dad pass on, that you're there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, family has to be there. Yeah, you know I do.
Speaker 2:I feel really bad for yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel bad. Feel bad for her, but you know these are stages of life we're going to have to get through and you know that's what's happening right now with me, but what's been going on with you?
Speaker 2:Oh man, you know, I was sitting there, I was doing the flying a few days ago and did you see that weather? Did your wife get caught in all that weather a few days ago?
Speaker 1:The. Did your wife get caught in all that weather a few days ago, the panhandle shit, all that weather that was moving up the panhandle?
Speaker 2:No, she wasn't flying because this weekend we were like, oh, that's right we were off to Indiana.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is what she missed. It wasn't a whole big miss. So they had this whole damn weather front going from the Gulf and it was moving up through the panhandle. Okay, and you know Jacksonville Center, golf, and it was moving up through the panhandle. Okay, and you know Jacksonville center. Yeah, what happens? Clusterbuck shuts the whole damn thing down. Right, yeah, I don't care what the hell's going into Florida, jacksonville center will shut that shit down. And that's exactly happened.
Speaker 1:So Jacksonville center is like the gateway to Florida, Like you know, like for people out there that don't really know, like the gatekeeper. Yeah, they're like the gatekeeper, so like if you can't get, you know if you're flying from any destination and you're going down and you have to go traverse through the panhandle area or, you know, get to, from to the lower end of the peninsula of Florida, just it, you know they make it hard for you.
Speaker 2:They got like a godlike send them.
Speaker 1:They will send you out into the Atlantic or they'll send you, like off, into the Gulf of America.
Speaker 2:They were shutting that shit down, sean, we had all of our Floridas. Everything to Florida was delayed a minimum of two hours. The only ones that got out was the very early morning flight got off the ground, okay, so they started shutting it down. So then we were supposed to depart around I think it was like 11 or something like that. And then, well, it's Cleveland weather, right, shit started snowing. So we had the weather front in Cleveland, the it's Cleveland weather, right, shit started snowing, so it was okay. So we had the weather front in Cleveland, the snow coming in Cleveland, the temperature started dropping, so you know the de-icing fluid and all that, the way that works. So now we're going. Okay, now either we got snow de-icing and we got Jacksonville Center in the weather.
Speaker 2:Oh, you had a beautiful clusterful day and I I mean it's one of those ones I was supposed to be done at two o'clock was not going to happen. So we're down. We're down in the crew room and they had one of the supervisors, one of the flight attendants uh, turn around and she's like gary, you're. You always say this, you, when you come to work, you never plan on anything going right. Yeah, that's the way you have to approach this job really.
Speaker 1:I mean you come to work, you never plan on anything going, right. Yeah, that's the way you have to approach this job Really. I mean you got to plan like for anything like you should be able to. And what cracks me up too is like how many people that we know that we fly with and coworkers and stuff that don't do that. Oh, they get mad and then they get out bent out of shape.
Speaker 2:I'm like do you ever plan on the shit going right, sean? I mean seriously, I mean never. When I show up, I plan on it being a complete shit show. So if I do get a home on time, if everything goes good, then I'm a one happy person. But listen, I work for the airline industry. Okay, these are machines. Things happen, weather happens. Let me tell you something you know it's going to be a shit show, and if it goes good, great. That's phenomenal. If it doesn't, I don't get worked up about it. I got a bag, I got my stuff, I'm going to go to a hotel somewhere, and if I don't go to a hotel, I'm going to sleep on a couch somewhere. I don't care. I mean, it is what it is. It's the industry and I chose to be in.
Speaker 1:And I told, like you guys know, I mean I just sit around here and I wait and plane takes off, I go, that's it.
Speaker 2:I mean you know and know the best way to mess up your day plan something, but there's always somebody that does that right and they're sitting there going. You know they're. They're always crying, yelling or screaming about it, and even even passengers that you know when they when they start yelling about their flight and why something didn't happen and they're like damn airline, or damn this or damn. And I'm like, are you serious? Look outside. I mean it's snowing here. You've got a shitload of weather down in Florida. What did you think is going to happen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, All the variables, they just they don't you know, they're oblivious.
Speaker 2:There's a hurricane down there, let's fly through it.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah down there, let's fly through it. Oh okay, yeah, that sounds a lot like a lot of fun. I know you know we chalk this up to like when there's, uh, new hires, and like the inexperience of people, stuff, or so like you can do that to the public too. You know the inexperience of the public or the experience of some new hires, but we get this sometimes out of like very experienced, you know employees and stuff, and we're like really, yeah, you just look at them.
Speaker 2:You've been doing this way too long to be acting that way. It should not bother you at all. I don't flinch with it, I'm like whatever. As long as that damn plane pulls up to the jetway and my ass walks off of it, I'm good man.
Speaker 2:That's the best flight in the world. I don't care if it's turbulence, whatever it is. People, I'm good man. Thank God, man, that's the best flight in the world. I don't care, I don't care if it's turbulence, whatever it is. People sitting there say, oh, that was a bad flight. I said no, no, no Bad flight. A bad flight is when me and you are walking out of a cornfield in Kansas or Nebraska and we're trying to find a way home.
Speaker 2:That's a bad damn flight's a good flight. Yeah, that's a good fight. That's it. That's just the way I look at it and I you know everybody does their own thing. That's the way I look at it. Been doing it a long time. We'll continue to look at it that way. But had to tell you man had on on the um uh tv did you see the brawl with the usa and canada?
Speaker 1:the brawl with usa kind of hockey team. Yeah, I think it was like like mma matches every uh couple seconds there. I mean it was so you knew that was coming so crazy. I mean just the whole rival thing that's happening right now with canada and us and you know it's all fueled by trump's comments and, you know, trying to make him the 51st state and all that crap like it's like you know.
Speaker 1:I mean it's almost. It's so comical that he's just like this some, some of the shit that comes out of his mouth, and just you're like what who would?
Speaker 2:think about that nine seconds into the, into the match man, you just I mean you had to love it nine seconds. They were talking about it being old school and it reminded me of an old movie, do you?
Speaker 1:remember slap shot, slap shot.
Speaker 2:I have not seen that, but it's like a comedy, oh my God, you guys, if you, if you want a good comedy uh, paul Newman was uh in this movie it was called Slapshot back in the day and it you know it's going to be a free movie. It's very, very funny. It's about a hockey team and they are a low rent hockey team. I mean they are low budget budget. But this is funny as crap man you got to go see. I mean you don't have to go see it, you just bring it up, I'm sure, a lot of hockey fans and stuff probably all seen it, you know the hansen brothers.
Speaker 2:Anybody seen this? The hansen brothers? This will remind me of the hansen brothers if you put the hansen brothers out there for team usa in canada. First, hon brother start ass-whooping. Second, Hanson brother ass-whooping. Third, ass-whooping.
Speaker 1:And it's all within the first 10 seconds. This kind of reminds me of our adventure down in Florida, when I met all your brothers.
Speaker 2:Hanson brothers Meeting the Millers. Yeah, meet the Millers, that would be it right? That's true, Didn't take long did it, Sean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it didn't take long. I mean, walk into a bar and we're in a fight.
Speaker 2:You know something? I can't help it. I did love that. That's hockey in the United States. That's hockey in Canada too. Everybody likes to see hockey players go at it. They just gave them a reason. I mean, any time you boo the national anthem in our country or anywhere that US citizens are at, some shit's going to go down.
Speaker 1:Dude Right, it should go down. It doesn't matter what country you're from. If you're from that country and somebody else is booing your national anthem, right yeah.
Speaker 2:If we had booed theirs, they'd have been ape shit.
Speaker 1:It's on Right.
Speaker 2:And do something to our flag. Mess with our anthem, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's game on, but it was. It was pretty funny, right? It's crazy stuff, man. Anyways, uh, news man, you know I was uh flim and uh flipping through news and stuff and checking out different things that happened like in history and stuff. But uh, because uh trump's president and stuff, I was just kind of like something popped up on the radar in there.
Speaker 2:You remember the trump shuttle oh yeah, yeah, he's been in everything. Though, yeah, I mean, when you start thinking about I was just kind of like something popped up on the radar in there.
Speaker 1:Do you remember the Trump shuttle? Oh, yeah, he's been in everything, though, yeah, I mean, when you start thinking about like all the businesses and stuff that he's been involved in, it's unbelievable, I mean, for those people that don't know what we're talking about. Trump shuttle Trump started an airline back in 1989 with 17 Boeing 727s and all he was doing was a shuttle from New York to Boston and he did it all the way to 92 and then then then ended up selling the thing and, uh, us airways bought the, uh, the, the routes and bought the whole entire airline and uh incorporated into us airways, which is now incorporated and merged into American. But, uh, I was just like you know, this is super interesting. Like all the stuff he's been involved in. It's like he's not, you know, foreign to any type of business.
Speaker 2:No, I mean hell, he had the casino. Remember that Atlantic City? Yeah, I mean he used to go there, I mean early. We used to actually fly Cleveland to Atlantic City. Do you remember you were here with that, right? Oh yeah, the Cleveland Atlantic City run. I mean we used to go there all the time to that casino and that was, I mean that was a big thing for him too, and I remember that because they had talked about when that casino went down and business is crazy, right, I mean we really don't understand a lot of it. But when I was reading about that, you know, a lot of these businesses are created when they, when they fail, when they fail, you think, oh, that's a failure, right? Not really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because what happens is some of them are big time tax write-offs. Oh heck, yeah man. When you close a business for the owner, like for the corporation or whoever that's, whoever, that's a gigantic tax right.
Speaker 2:Well, they talked about that in that casino years ago and they were saying about you know, like failed businesses with him and stuff. And these are any businessman, not just Trump, but any businessman that they diversify what they do. So you might think that, oh, they had this failed business. Well, is it good or bad? Or, you know, did it fail or did they just plan it for a big tax write-off?
Speaker 1:I would care to say that probably every billionaire out there has been involved in failed businesses. You know, like there's like everybody just doesn't strike it like it's been, you know, 100% successful the whole way. There's nobody out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but some of them don't even. They probably wouldn't even care, because if it did fail it's a tax write-off because they got so much money they're going to bounce back from it. It's not like they're going to lose everything because and that's what they were talking about that casino, that casino, was a huge tax write-off for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I. I mean, that's how big business works. You know, like that's how. Who was it? Gates, and what's his name? Oh my gosh, buffett. That was saying you know if you have money and if you're, you know if you have, you're a billionaire, you don't pay taxes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't pay.
Speaker 1:It's not that they're saying that they don't pay the taxes at all. It's at the system that's out there and how they work the system. It's kind of like that they fail a business, boom, it's a write-off. I'm not paying any taxes because I'm writing that off. You know Right.
Speaker 2:But his was a perfect example though. I mean, if you really think about it, it's a perfect example of how tough it is for a startup airline to break into the industry, because it was, it was done in 1992. You ain't getting in there because the big carriers and and some of the other carriers you're gonna get squeezed out. Oh man, you know, I mean it's a tough market. I mean even back then, it's tough marks, tough market today, because if you start stepping on toes and you get in somebody else's territory, they're gonna start squeezing you out, and that's what happened with him. I mean you think about a lot of the. The smaller try to startup airlines. They'll start for one or two years and they get squeezed out.
Speaker 1:When we started flying there were so many different airlines in the United States. Regionally there were just little tiny airlines here and there Northwest.
Speaker 1:Just small airlines. Right here in this region that we're in, there was Great Lakes Airlines. All these different airlines that were just like about. But as time goes by, and like this now, merger situation is happening, where it's like more mergers and mergers are happening. I mean there's still mergers on the uh, you know cusp right here, what's getting ready to happen. I mean there's a lot of airlines out there. Some of the discount airlines are looking for mergers and you know it's a game of survival, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's a business. You have to survive, and, and even when people get on the airplane all the time they're the first thing they ask is the flight full? Of course it's full. Let me tell you, there's only so many seats in the air, and those seats get taken, and and the and the airlines are not in the business of not filling seats. That's what we do, man.
Speaker 1:That's how we make money, yeah we're not in the business Like it's just like a hotel, like they need people occupying the hotel right. Yeah, empty rooms don't make money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just because you're sitting there doesn't mean we can't move somebody to your row just because you wanted the whole row. Two-year row just because you wanted the whole row. It doesn't work that way. Get that all the time, though don't we right? That person looks at you and is like how dare you put another person in the row with me and the seat in between us?
Speaker 1:I reserved this three months ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I went the whole row. Well then, you had to pay for it, and then we move that person in. We get all dirty looks for the next three or four hours. Yeah, exactly. Let's repeat that Nobody owns an overhead bin. Because the overhead bin is over your head does not mean that that is your overhead bin. Just remember that when you get on board an aircraft, you start yelling at those nice flight attendants. It is a space in which you put luggage, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yep, it's a public space for the entire aircraft you did not buy it.
Speaker 2:So you purchased that seat which has the seat assignment, and that's the one you did not buy it. So you, you purchased that seat which has this seat assignment and that's the one you bought. Yeah, when it's full, it's full, it's full yeah, that's what we do man, we fill them up and we make money right, the other thing, man he, uh, another thing.
Speaker 1:That's like, with all this stuff that we're talking about too, ai has been like in the in the news, like crazy right now and and I'm just like, uh, wow, the more and more I think about like, because it just keeps popping up and all this stuff, like ai, yeah, yeah, it's on like a super mode right now. And, uh, what do you think about ai? Like, how do you feel? How you, how do you feel and I know you're not a techie, so, like I'm asking- no, I was gonna say, going to say you're going to love this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to be completely honest, but this is a good example of like, probably a.
Speaker 1:You're a really good example of a common American that doesn't know a lot about AI, but what do you think about it? What are you saying? No, no, no, I'm not. There's no bad about this. I know, man, I'm just messing. I just want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 2:No, it's true, though I mean I'm not, and a lot of times with Sean, Sean is a big techie, so it's kind of good for me. I got this. You know, best friend, he's a freaking little techie, so you know, it's like if I need to know something, I just go to him. He'll look at me, give me a funny look, and then we go about our business All right, and didn't know a lot about it, knew about it, read about it, but didn't actually use it until. You know, when we started doing the podcast or you, you were like gee, you got to look at this, look at the AI of this, and I'm like, okay, in what way? And then you're, then you showed me a couple of ways to do it and utilize it and I think that in, in, in a good way, it's really good, Really good. Yeah, I mean I can see how it could go bad, but you know, on on some things I can really see how it goes bad, but man, I can see a lot of good with AI.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ai right now is like. I think that like there's this like and I would. This is just me making a uh assumption of my perception of what AI is doing right now. Ai right now is all around us, like there's so much AI in the world that people don't understand all the AI that's involved. I mean, we have AI in our cars. We have AI is a freaking on our wristwatch, right. We have AIs in the computer. We have AIs are freaking on our doorbell cameras and you know like there's all kinds of crazy AI technology that's out there that people don't realize. Like we're in, we're like swimming in it right now, but people don't understand that that's what AI is like.
Speaker 1:This it's, it's assistance to you know, an algorithm that's assisting us, you know, as humans. So like for me, there's a lot of like benefits to it. I mean, there it's like really cool as far as like some of the things that we can do, you know, research and development and, um, the questions and stuff. Like there's a new chat gbt is the big one everybody's talking about, right, everybody get online talk to chat gbt. So then there's a new one that just came out that uh, china threw out there that said that they built it on half the cost and stuff, so it like threw the stock market into frenzy and all this stuff and blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1:But AI is here and going to stay and going to be like totally encompassing. But there's some scary stuff about AI and here's my, here's my uh um. Thing about scary is AI is driving all these things like automated cars, like remember I was telling you about the uh, or the other day the guy was in the trapped in that car, the AI car, or he was driving Okay Perfect, Couldn't get out Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, they showed okay In the movie. Okay, real quick, fast and furious. You've seen that. Yeah, okay, ai, she took over every car, right, every freaking car, every one of them.
Speaker 1:that can be done yeah, but see so then. So you put that into ai. So like her hacking into that? Like that's not ai. Ai is actually like the computer itself doing it by automation. Like them, she didn't have to initiate it, like the computer did it itself. So that, like them, she didn't have to initiate it, like the computer did it itself. So that's the AI. That's kind of like scary. That's scary Is the dystopian viewpoint of AI Like is it going to take over? Is it going to be like terminator where computers start running us and shit like that Right, so it's. I've been doing, like I call this in, you know, research on AI and stuff lately and you know it's interesting because the it just it's a new technology that just got developed and so the algorithm of AI right now is this you know we are teaching computers to teach themselves.
Speaker 1:So, like you know how, like Alexa right here you know, like she teaching, and hopefully she doesn't talk to us, but she's teaching herself how to understand our inflections of our voice, how to understand our language, how to answer our questions, and the more she does it, the more smart she gets, and that's what AI is about. Does it. The more she gets, the more smart she gets, and that's what ai is about. Like this, and continuously like trying to machine learn and let it learn itself and they're talking about this is crazy that there's this singular moment gonna happen, and the singular moment is when a computer in the world becomes more intelligent than us.
Speaker 2:Well, I already think that is well, I mean, I mean, I mean really, it hasn't happened yet, it hasn't happened.
Speaker 1:Believe me, um, that's what scientists are like, they're saying it's, they're estimating like, in 90, in 2040, is we're going to have a singular event where a computer is smart, but then it's only going to be smart in a certain type of you know, um, uh, knowledge you'll be like shit, shit situation if you can't turn the damn power off. Right, right, I mean right, so seriously it will be smart in the, in the, in the aspect of the knowledge and how we can operate and things, shut down your power grid.
Speaker 2:I mean you can do all kinds of stuff right, but it's not like, it's not knowledge and how we can operate and things that were automated.
Speaker 1:I mean it could do all kinds of stuff, right, but it's not like it's not like it's like a. It's going to be doing bad things because, remember, algorithms are designed to help us, right, right, but yes, there is a bad part to that, just like humans, you know. You know we're all raised to do. You know, do the right thing, right.
Speaker 2:But then there's people out there doing the wrong thing, right? Yeah, a lot of experience with that right now.
Speaker 1:So it's a um. It's a very interesting thing that like ai. Like people aren't really paying attention to, to it too much to me, but it's all. It's all over the news, kind of like popping up here and there, right, but it's like all around us, like we're we're deep into it and it's just going to get. I mean, I think things are going to get really better and better and better and like make things more simplified for us, like this uh podcast is like. So I mean, we're not. We use ai on this podcast and we use it in many different ways, like to modulate our voice when we're doing recordings, when we upload those things. It does script writing for us. It does all this manual work that we don't have to do, I mean, literally push a button boom as long as you push a button yeah.
Speaker 2:Made that damn mistake too, didn't you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Anyways, I thought it would be a good discussion because I was like you know.
Speaker 2:It's interesting to me that what people who aren't techies know and don't know. But you know, like I said, I I actually do like it. I mean, I honestly I do, even not knowing that much about it, it's kind of fun to work with it. Now, I'm never going to get that deep into it like you do, but um, yeah, it is, even for the normal person it's a lot of fun to work with it yeah, the technology and stuff behind ai.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like it. Just to me, I like you know, like you're saying I don't want to be no, everything behind it. It's kind of like my wife, she's a pilot and she flies this plane and everything, but she can get a shit how the thing works.
Speaker 2:She doesn't care.
Speaker 1:I totally agree with that she doesn't. She loves the job about. Well, you know she doesn't get into. She's not that geeky pilot out there not to offend anybody, but that is all into like, oh, look, all you know the technology and stuff behind her, which that would be me, right, she's just I'm going to work.
Speaker 2:I like doing the job. She's just damn good at flying a plane. That's what it is I mean. No, seriously, she's damn good at flying a plane. I would give her props all day long flown with her for years, man.
Speaker 1:She's just good, but I'd rather take good than a techie any day. Yeah for sure, man. So this is a good segue. Man, Like talking about pilots and stuff, how about that crash?
Speaker 2:You know there's been so many incidents here recently and man, everybody is starting to, everybody is questioning what's going on, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's scary when things like start happening and it's like keeps continue to happen and stuff, because you know airline flying is the safest way to travel. I mean I mean, come on, like it's air safety, Like it is, it's amazing and the likelihood of you being in a crash. But now we have the internet, we have this mass media, we have all this information. I mean, within seconds of that crash happening, it was all over the news everywhere, Right, Right.
Speaker 2:Well, everybody, yeah. But now you got like everybody sitting there saying, oh, this happened, this happened, this happened. You know what I mean and this is the reason why it is. And then now everybody's questioning like was it the pilot, was it this, was it that? And let me tell you, until the reports come out you can't believe anything. But I mean for us, I mean we know a lot as far as when we're flying right, and they had those videos out and those videos are kind of.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're looking at those and you see a lot in that video, sean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the videos are so interesting to me, coming from the perspective of the airline industry, so the best video that was out there you saw the one from the cockpit, the plane that was holding it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, I've seen that the guy like the planes coming in I mean it?
Speaker 1:was like it was like he knew something was going to happen, almost. I mean, it was so weird and eerie. And then all of a sudden you know this plane's spinning around, losing its wings and rolling in the snow and you know from an airline standpoint. First of all, many pilots out there listening or seeing that were probably shocked that that video was even posted. Right, because you're not supposed to be videotaping in a cockpit.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, right. I mean the guy's getting ready to take off. Somebody's got to look into that.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm sure somebody might look into that whole aspect of it. So minor as far as the public's concerned but from an airline standpoint, not supposed to be doing it, not supposed to be doing it. Yeah, nope, supposed to be doing that, but then the videos of like all the pastors coming off, like I saw.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but let's talk about that for a minute, because more so because we're not going to, we're not going to throw out there what, what we thought happened, because we I mean we we're going to have our own opinion on that, and me and Sean have been doing this job a long time, so we have our own opinion about, like we thought occurred there, the cause. Let's talk about the freaking miracle that happened.
Speaker 1:Folks, let me tell you.
Speaker 2:All right when that plane hit the ground. When that plane hit the ground, here's miracle number one. First of all, I know the weather conditions were bad, but the weather conditions, believe it or not, what happened is probably one of the things that saved a lot of lives that day. Because what happened is when that plane hit and that wing hit, that wing snapped right off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean just to think about how the fuselage was spinning on the ground. The wings snap off, which, for most people I don't know if they know this or not know this, but that's where our tanks of gas are right.
Speaker 2:Well, you've seen that.
Speaker 1:Right, and so it's spinning and turning on fire and all that stuff, and so the conditions rolling into the snow and the ice, I mean it actually contributed to saving their lives.
Speaker 2:Well, if you look at the ball of fire, that's the fuel coming out of the wing, like you said. Right, the fire went straight back to the back part of the aircraft. Okay, there was no hole in the side of the aircraft, thank God, because they would have been burnt because of the jet fuel. The jet fuel went right out the back. Now, this is just what you could see, okay, and then you've seen it trail. Now, if it would have been, the ground would have been dry, would have been a dry situation, not wet, not frozen, not anything. That jet fuel would have ignited everything around it. And it's truly freaking amazing. The snow, the water, it kind of took care of that. But then aircraft rolls over, turns upside down, upside down. You got your seatbelts on getting out of that plane upside down Another miracle, right? Nobody. I mean, there was a few bad injuries, right, I think it was an infant. That was one of them.
Speaker 1:A few people without their seatbelts on.
Speaker 2:So you're now upside down and we're in our harness and they're in their regular seatbelt and getting. I couldn't even imagine what it's going to be, because you're going to drop.
Speaker 1:Dude, it probably happened so far. It's a split second that you're having, like I mean, you know, us getting out of our seatbelts, like you know, depending on the type of seat that we're in, because we have many different ones, I mean whether you have, you know, a buckle or a twist knob that you're going to release everything. But no matter what, I mean we don't train for upside down, nope, like I mean uh, you've seen that. Like you know top gun. You know they put them in, they throw them into the pool upside down, they got to get out of their seat and stuff. Like you know, we don't do stuff like that as flight attendants. You know, like we don't train for those type of situations. Now we do talk about, like old, old, you know, incidents that happen, all that stuff, but I mean it was just a freaking miracle and the conditions of what happened saved their lives.
Speaker 1:I mean all I was thinking was if this would have been in the summertime, it would have been just a mass fire event. And, like everybody, like any of the exits, some of the exits wouldn't, wouldn't be usable the fuselage stayed intact.
Speaker 2:That was a more. That was incredible. Yeah, not breaking into pieces, not breaking into pieces like as far like the uh one that just happened in reagan right like I mean, and that aircraft yeah, and that aircraft had no slides because it's low to the ground, that you know that that was amazing because you're able to use all the exits, because if you had opened those doors and you'd had slides, those slides would have inflated, possibly blocking those passengers' exit, because could you imagine trying to disarm a door being upside down?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean all the Because you'd have to.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're upside down, you have to disarm, because if the slide inflates, it's going to, it's going to block.
Speaker 1:So the narrow body aircrafts and I know many of them Embraer, things like that they're, they're. They're a lot like the arming devices that we have on like a lot of our aircrafts, where it's just a handle where we just like switch it Right. Just like switch it Right. So. But if we were like in a seven 37 where we had a physical bar that we had to like connect to the floor and things like that, that would have been a son of a bitch. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all I can think about it was like just all the variables depending on the like, the type of the aircraft that had happened with, and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:It's like you're able to use window exits and and the crew did a phenomenal job you've seen the video with them and you know, got the doors open, got the window exits open and those people got out safely and that was a freaking miracle. I mean thank god. I mean all those people, they survived, the crew survived, it was that. That was, that's the main thing, that's all it matters. Uh, everything else they'll figure out. But man, oh man, that was.
Speaker 1:That was definitely a miracle even, even the lucky attitude of the aircraft when it stopped, right, right, it was literally upside down, it wasn't like on its side covering one of the doors or coming on the exits. It was like perfect, positioned upside down. That's what I said.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you know anything about with the industry, I mean that was a miracle. I mean you just seen the plane intact. It wasn't constant, the the situations. You're right.
Speaker 1:Uh, it was perfect, uh that flight attendant was a freaking amazing too. I mean the video of her like evacuating the aircraft and stuff, and uh, you know you could hear I was listening to all the commands and stuff. As a flight attendant, we're always like listen to the commands that she was doing and stuff. Um, that was one of the things I was paying attention to Like and one thing that popped out of my mind that every time she was like put that down, leave this, leave this, get out get out, leave everything your life's way more important than that Like don't, don't take shit with you.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't get your ass out of the aircraft. All that other material shit can be replaced. You know you can't replace your life.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, with phones, though right, you get the action before. You'd never get the inside look of an evacuation. You got it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You got it right from the inside. Somebody who would be doing that. You'd be thinking, okay, your life is more important than that damn video. I'm sorry, I get it. You know they have them, but shit, my, my life's way more important than that stupid ass video yeah, the perspectives of like all the different videos that we got in this.
Speaker 1:I mean it is a miraculous like how many different perspectives. And like ntsb and or whoever uh controls canada up there. You know, I know ntsb is helping canada as well because it's an american airline, right, but, um, it's like you know it, they've got a lot, a lot of good furniture of like what really happened. So this investigation is going to come out with some very detailed, or, you know, good information about this whole accident.
Speaker 2:But you know, for our listeners that are not crew members, just realize this, man. There's like 45,000 flights per day in the United States. I know you're seeing these incidents and you're sitting there saying what's going on and it's because that it's so big when you see it and you think about an airplane. But realize this. 45,000 per day. Now imagine how many people are in those planes. It's unbelievable. It's like 2.9 million daily daily, daily.
Speaker 1:I I mean. They say that there's over 10 million um flights per year, like 10 million people are flying per year that's crazy I mean it's like wow, wow, wow I mean that is absolutely crazy, but you know something.
Speaker 2:Again, that was an absolute miracle. Hey, go to your fun facts. So let's talk about some fun facts. Let's talk about some fun facts.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about some fun facts. Man, there's some, you know, as I'm always looking around the internet and stuff for some fun facts that are happening. But in 1876, Julius Wolf supplied the first canned sardines in Maine. You remember when I ate these sardines?
Speaker 2:You're like, hey, I looked at you. I was like, does sardines bother you? And you're like, no, and I opened the can. You're like what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1:First of all, I think there needs to be a law about fish on planes. I asked you Like cooking fish? First of all, I know sardines aren't cooked, but like cooking fish on, like fish entrees on plane when we cook them in the galleys and stuff. Talk about stench, right? That shit was funny though, man, it's always the fish that anything we get that's fishy, it stays on the plane for a long time.
Speaker 2:You're like why do you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:It's bad enough eating eggs like a hard-boiled egg on the plane. Anything that's stinky is you're eating, oh my God, that was funny.
Speaker 2:That was the on the plane. Like anything stinky is you're eating, you know?
Speaker 1:oh, my god, that was not the first one too, but yeah so, anyways, 1964, a british company sent um 1 000 pounds of the beetle wigs to the united states. And when I say the beetle wigs, you know, uh, you know, ringo and and the Beatles, yeah, a thousand pounds of wigs to the United States for Beatlemania.
Speaker 2:I got nothing.
Speaker 1:I got nothing on that one, but like, why would that be? Like that's. So it was just so random. I was just like this is so crazy. Anyways, 1881, alcohol was prohibited in kansas for the first. It was the first day to prohibit the production and transport of sale of alcohol, and this I brought, brought this up in 1881. So think of this day. For 67 years that act drove prohibition in the united states. So it's, you know, with all the crazy stuff that's happening and all the extreme views that are happening in the United States and stuff, I was just like you know, here was one thing. You know one, one state that had a like, you know, a movement of, like alcohol is bad and it's sinful and whatever. You know all that stuff. And then they prohibit it and it starts this huge trend that happens across the whole United States and it takes 67 years to like snap out of it.
Speaker 2:Well, shit, we still got a pro. We still got programs about corn whiskey man on TV.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, think about it Right, they, they have, they actually have programs now they, they got these. Still still back up in the woods.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but are they making illegal whiskey and stuff without permits and stuff. Yeah, people always still making their own.
Speaker 2:But that's what I mean. It started that shit all the way back to the Prohibition days, right, yeah? Yeah, I mean, because that's what they did.
Speaker 1:They made it ran the whiskey in those cars, I mean back then and it's funny because, like actually making it and stuff, Many states aren't even legal anymore. Like you can make as much as you want. It's the selling and distribution is the part that when the state can, the state or whoever- can get their tax money that's when you got problems.
Speaker 2:Always the tax.
Speaker 1:I mean, we can go down to our local drugstore down here. I don't know if you know this, but like Ace Hardware down the street here has a whole section about brewing.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you should stop in there. Sometimes it's pretty wild. They have two rows of nothing about. They'll teach you, and have the materials and supplies, how to make your own wine and how to make your own brew.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for the next one. Like it's crazy. I can't not wait for this next one.
Speaker 1:The next fact 1914, frugal parents decided to mail their four-year-old child 73 miles from their home to their grandparents, dude in 1914, first of all.
Speaker 2:So we gotta put a little johnny in a package I mean we're talking about like stowaways and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:This is a whole new. There's a whole new aspect to it. But in 1914, when you're mailing somebody, first of all, it's like get in the damn box.
Speaker 2:How are they?
Speaker 1:yeah, get in the box and then they close up the box and then the mail company like they're transferring a wooden crate maybe?
Speaker 2:yeah, right, there's no details on this information, but I mean it's definitely a novel idea.
Speaker 1:That's pretty funny.
Speaker 2:Mail their damn kids, all right man let's go to the destination of the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the destination of the week man is Spokane, washington. Spokane, have you laid over there?
Speaker 2:I have lots of times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first of all, I like Spokane. It's a cool little layover for us. I like Spokane. It's a cool little layover for us. I mean, we stay usually right downtown by the Spokane River, right next to it, and some of the things that I like to do when I go there is the scooters.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You get on those little you know the Lime scooters or whatever the company is out there and you jump on those scooters and you can pay for by the hour whatever and just okay go. But cool thing next to this river is they got this um trail on both sides of the river and you can go for miles and miles on these scooters. So loving you just want to get out and just like see some beautiful views and kind of traverse the whole city scooters good running, good running, uh, area too great.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, yeah, yeah if you do that type of thing, are you you?
Speaker 1:do the scooter I might do the running sean will do the scooter right. I'm definitely in the scooter stage right now, but right up the road, right on the river, is gonzaga university and, um, another thing that I did, uh, that I a scooter up. You kind of like head away from the river where we stay and stuff. But you head up the hill from the river and there is a garden there that is absolutely, I mean, super famous called Duncan Gardens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been there. That's actually pretty cool.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's really cool and it looks like something like Central Park in New York City. It is immaculate. But it also has all these like multiple different gardens. They have the Japanese gardens, they've got a rose garden there, they've got a lilac garden and you can just scooter all over that park too.
Speaker 2:I can see you, man, get your little helmet on. You're scootering around.
Speaker 1:Dude man, man it's, it's a cool little place, but I mean I don't, you know, I wouldn't say this is a winter destination, but I mean, when you get into summer, spring, fall, I mean it's probably beautiful yeah I've been there in those times and each season I love japanese gardens too, though man they're so cool they're really tranquil, like you like you can like just chill, like I mean it's cool to just like sit around and stuff like that on the garden and just be like, just think, and so yeah, man, the Japanese gardens and the whole park and stuff is really beautiful. It's up on the hill there in Spokane. The other thing is I already mentioned Centennial Trail, but another big landmark that's down on Centennial Trail is they got a ferris, not a ferris wheel, a merry-go-round there, a carousel that's right on the river, that's enclosed, that's very famous and I haven't been on it myself but I've seen it many times and it is a very interesting cool old carousel. Not a lot of those around in the United States right now.
Speaker 1:But then we get into the eating and the eating right now, dude, one of the places that I've always gone to is I love to find a good burger and the Onion Bar in Spokane is a burger place. It's a burger and brew place and it's got. You walk into this place and it has, like it said, like a hunt, it looks like a hundred taps on the wall and each tap, instead of having, like you know, you see the tap and it has like the brand or the debris or whatever. Whatever brewery it is, they just have like chalk boards on each tap and they write the names of them on with chalk. It's just unlimited. But the burgers there are fabulous.
Speaker 2:I can see you taking me to that one because again you'd be yelling at me the kind of beer I get to drink. But go ahead.
Speaker 1:I could already see that I was like he would take me there I don't know if they even serve Corona in that place, because it's like a brewery. I think they only have their own beer.
Speaker 2:I'd get a common beer just to piss you off.
Speaker 1:Yeah you'd try for sure. And then Onion Rings, of course, is called the Onion Bar. So the Onion Rings, they're gigantic. I love Onion Rings, they're amazing and all that stuff Cool. But one other place that's really cool there is called wooden city. Man, it is a like this um pizza place with um comfort foods and little small plates and the cocktails and stuff like that really big happening place there. That um wooden city is like one another place I've eaten there really enjoy the food super delicious. But yeah, man, that's spokane. If you get, if you're getting out. I mean it's a cool place to visit and a cool little uh atmosphere downstown, lots of different other places to eat and stuff like that. But uh, check that place out.
Speaker 2:so anyways, we got the quote, man I was just thinking, man, this is actually a pretty fun week, but uh, yeah, the quote. I just love what we talked about today. Anyway, the elevator to success is out of order. You'll have to use the stairs one step at a time.
Speaker 1:That was cool, yeah man, I mean this quote is one of those things is like there's so many things out right now in the world on the Internet and Facebook and Instagram, everywhere you look and like everybody's trying to do it fast, you know, trying to make their way fast in life, and you just gotta, you gotta take it one step at a time, man. I mean it doesn't matter, nobody's, nobody's going to get rich overnight. There's no no fast, you know portal to this. There's no elevator to success. One step at a time.
Speaker 2:That's what we do, all right guys. Hey, one step at a time. That's what we do, all right guys. Hey, listen, it was a lot of fun. You guys have a great week. We will see you next week on Cabin Press. You guys be careful out there, take care of yourself, and we'll see you next week Next week.
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