Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"

From Falling Out of Cars to Nightmare Airports: A Cabin Pressure Adventure

Shawn & G Episode 37

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Remember when car safety meant "try not to fall out"? Shawn kicks off this episode with a story about doing exactly that – rolling out of a moving car as a child when the door flew open during a turn. His young nieces are appropriately horrified, having grown up in an era of five-point harnesses and booster seats. This leads to a nostalgic journey through the massive station wagons and bench seats of yesteryear when fitting six kids in the backseat was standard weekend entertainment.

The conversation shifts to remarkable people in the news, specifically Johnny Kim – whose career trajectory reads like a collection of childhood dream jobs. From troubled beginnings, Kim became a Navy SEAL with 100 successful combat missions, then a Harvard-educated doctor, and now NASA's first Korean-American astronaut. While most of us struggle to master one profession, Kim collects elite careers like trading cards, exemplifying the warrior mindset in everything he pursues.

Aviation news dominates the middle section, with updates on Starlink internet being installed across commercial fleets, Newark Airport's operational nightmare (or "the armpit of the nation" as the hosts affectionately call it), and ridiculous passenger requests – including one individual who provided flight attendants with a list demanding no coffee brewing, no nuts, no fragrances, and impossibly, "no airplane fuel smells" on an aircraft. We also explore bizarre incidents like a plane diverting because the autopilot stopped working (prompting the logical question: aren't pilots supposed to fly planes?) and a baggage handler who fell asleep in the cargo hold and woke up mid-flight.

Whether you're a frequent flyer or an aviation enthusiast, this episode delivers the perfect blend of nostalgia, industry insights, and the absurdity that makes air travel simultaneously frustrating and fascinating. Subscribe now and share with your weirdest coworker – you know the one.

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Speaker 1:

Sean falls out of a car. Newark's airport continues to be a nightmare. A ramp guy stuck in the bottom of an airplane. Passengers request lists of allergies. All this next on Cabin Pressure with Sean and G.

Speaker 2:

Hey, everyone welcome this is cabin pressure. Hey, everyone welcome. This is Cabin Pressure. Whoop, whoop, whoop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, baby, who's in the house? Who is in the house?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I did not expect that.

Speaker 1:

You weren't expecting that one. No, not at all. Come on, man.

Speaker 2:

We're here, Pump it up, pump it up Every week. Man, it's going to be new.

Speaker 1:

That's right, and you know what's been going on.

Speaker 2:

What has been going on. Well, you know, I was driving over here actually this morning and I was thinking about when me and you were younger and yeah, I know that's pretty funny, but you used to live off of West 117th right In Cleveland Ohio.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I was driving back here and I was thinking how pretty it is through the country, because I live, like I don't know, three or four miles through the country as a bird flies to where Sean lives and it's pretty, real, pretty Right, it's beautiful. You're winding in and out and you see all this beautiful trees and everything, and it wasn't like that whenever I first drove to your apartment and west 117th it's a little different scenery from the beautiful nature area we live in.

Speaker 1:

Now to the hood, the hood, the hood we used to live in like it was like it's very. It was Like it was like it's very, it was very sketchy there, but it's typical hood ish.

Speaker 2:

You got, you got off the interstate. And then you know, here's the fight. You get off the interstate where we're at, and you turn into the country and you're like, ah, man is gorgeous, right. You got trees, golf courses, everybody takes care of their homes. I mean it's real pretty. Now you get off at the interstate at West 117.

Speaker 1:

And it's a condemned house. We got trash.

Speaker 2:

We got homeless. On the side of the road You're locking your doors at the stoplight.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the local gas station convenience store is loaded up with all kinds of hoodie-looking cars, big wheels, mags on them.

Speaker 2:

You drive down the street to the apartment. You're getting next to the apartment, you're looking outside. You're making sure nobody's casing you before you get out of the car.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's police cameras at the intersections.

Speaker 2:

There's, you know like much different intersections there's, you know like much different. Well, even the guy, remember the guy that owned your, owned your place when we first went in there right, and I came over there and and you're like gee, we need to, we need to redo this place. We redid the whole place, that whole two bedroom me and you redid that thing and it looked completely different dude.

Speaker 1:

It was like so that that place, like we took this cat, owned a duplex and so the duplex in cleveland, like in the hood area, is like upstairs, downstairs. So he took an old house and split into two and so we went in there, man threw some paint on it like, cleaned it up like it was, it was. It was unbelievable it smelled like pine salt when we got done yeah, when we were done, it was actually a nice apartment that you would rent.

Speaker 2:

He came upstairs and he looked at it and he was like I'm moving in here after you guys leave.

Speaker 1:

Remember that he probably did after we left. But you know what? I ran into that cat here years ago. I was out here in my neighborhood and so I live in this golf neighborhood and, um, I'm at the, I'm at the club and I look across the room and here is that dude and I'm like what the hell is he doing? He was here, yeah, he was here, and I was like this is this, is like this is a small world. So you know, I go over and I'm like hey, what's up? And he, his eyes kind of like grew big because he like with withheld my um deposit I was gonna say this is the same guy that held your security.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah back in the day. I mean, this is after we, after we took care of that whole damn place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like 15, 20 years later we like did everything for them and and he, his excuse was like you were late on the rent a couple of times. I'm like, did you not get it? I'm like you got it. Like, come on, are you kidding me? Really. Like it was, it was some bullshit anyways. So uh, he was, uh he was here and uh, anyways, he, he, he had joined our golf club and everything. So I was like I gotta see what this guy does. So it turns out he's shit golfer and I'm like, all right, I need to, I need to soak some money I'm the hustle, yeah, trying to hustle them.

Speaker 1:

So that's exactly what happened. We end up getting in a, you know, like a month or so later we get in a golf thing and I'm like I gotta push to push the boundaries here. So, you know, it's up to a hundred dollars, you know, plus whatever. This guy was getting ready to lose a lot of money, but uh you're getting, you're getting your security deposit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm trying to win my security deposit back like and, and. At the end of the round, after he like paid me like 150 bucks, I was like, yeah, I only got part of my security back. I'm coming after you stay.

Speaker 2:

He's like I know he's still here no, he moved out a long, many years ago do you know the one of the the funniest things about that apartment? I remember you were hanging out the window and you seen this, this brother walking down the street, and you yelled at him. You said pull up your damn pants pull those damn pants up, dude.

Speaker 1:

I never get that whole entire, you know. Drop your pants down and you see your drawers and all that stuff underwear hanging out the back.

Speaker 1:

It used to drive you nuts I don't get why, like it's so stupid. I saw a really cool thing of like morgan freeman talking about, like you know, do you understand the history of why this is? You know where this came from? It wasn't just prison. It was, like you know, because you were so poor you couldn't afford pants to actually fit you. You know these are. You know, I don't know we don't need to go there, but it's like it was funny, though.

Speaker 1:

I mean when I was driving back here I was like god he just took me back to when I used to drive to that west 117th my memory of that place that sticks out like crazy is the night that, um, I came home and then all of a sudden, man, it was like there was like 50 cop cars across the street from us and there was like you couldn't come out of your house, nothing, it was literally right across. We were on corner streets here, so the other corner, all these cops, they were like busting the drug busts across the street from us. It was nothing but like you know everybody, the drug enforcement and everything. It was crazy.

Speaker 1:

It was locked down the whole street but you, you were not shocked no, I wasn't shocked her in the neighborhood, but it was just like that's just one of my memories. I'm like you know what, maybe time to move it's like a warm fuzzy.

Speaker 2:

So what's been going on with you?

Speaker 1:

oh, you know, man, we're doing the back and forth with the family, of course, and and all that stuff, and you know having a great time. It was my one of my young nieces birthday, was she turned six, mila. And a shout out to Mila, but I know she's not, she doesn't listen to us. This is too way too heavy for her. But Mila is a character man and Mila was, we were, we were at the at the birthday party, whatever. And man and uh, mila was, we were, we were at the at the birthday party, whatever.

Speaker 1:

And she has this group of friends. They that they're like family friends. You know the all these little girls and it's funny because they all have there's like two kids in each family. So each one of the families they call them by their hair color. So they got one family that it's the reds, so they're all these redheads and they get it. Then they another company they're the blondes. And then mila and her sister, they're the brunettes. So mila's like explaining this whole thing to me and she looks up at me and she's like, oh you, you're, you're the grays. I'm like nice, thank you, I love you, mila, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, I was going to give it to you just there for a minute, because I was sitting there thinking the reds, the blondes, the brunettes, that was you dating years ago. You're talking about these little kids, I'm talking about these little kids, and then now you're the gray hair guy. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So the groups that come to her little birthday party she's got the reds, the brunettes, the blondes, and now she's got her family, the grays, little shit, anyways, yeah. So another thing that's so funny is that when I show up to Mila and Reagan is my niece's names they love to hear Uncle sean's stories. So they're always like tell us a story, tell us a story. And I'm like I'm always trying to think of these like stories, like, like I didn't realize, like all my stories are so exciting to them.

Speaker 2:

But they were like you're like okay, honestly though, you're animated, so yeah I'm a little animated.

Speaker 1:

So they were like, like you know, they're like uncle sean, tell me stories, so like I leave them. Um, one night we were there and I said, tomorrow I'm gonna tell you the story about me rolling out of a car. And they're like what? So literally like the next day, like when, the first time I see him, they're like tell us the story. What's the story? We've been waiting all night. We need to know the story, like anticipating this thing. So then I'm like I reflect on this story and I'm like you know what, I go back in my day. I go our parents. You know we would. We would be driving around these cars and the cars back then were like big, and I'm talking like we had like a 57 chevy or something you know like these, because you know how like, like the interior of the cars were like massive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like a room and then a lot of the cars didn't have seat belts. Right like in our day we grew up, there's no seat belts there's no such.

Speaker 1:

You get like six kids back there there was no such thing as car seats, nope, there was no such thing as boosters. Like like all this stuff and their mind, or like their eyes and their mind are being totally blown. They're like what, how did you travel, you know, how did you get from the without this and all this stuff? I'm telling them like this didn't exist. So you got to imagine this world where all that didn't exist.

Speaker 1:

And I said and so I'm in the backseat of my car and one of the things I love to do in my car, like the, you know, like between the front and back seat, was so big as a kid and there was a hump on the on those cars, and that hump was like warm. So we'd like curl up in those, like in the bottom, like on the floor in the car, and just like drive around. You know, like all warm and everything. Yeah, so I was telling them all this stuff and they're like wow, like you know, they couldn't even envision what I was talking about. But I said so we're driving down the street one day and I'm sitting in the back of the car with my parents and I'm looking out the window and my parents turned the corner and the door flew open and I rolled out of the car and they turned around their intersection. I wasn't rolling out in the car in the street in the street.

Speaker 2:

The reason I'm laughing is because I actually left the door open one time, leaning against it. I almost fell out too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, that was very common back then. You're holding on just looking at the window and all of a sudden the door swings open. I went rolling out the car and luckily I didn't get hit by other cars. Other cars stopped and stuff. My parents had to come up and pick me up off the ground and get me back in the car.

Speaker 2:

Uncle Sean's rolling out of the car store.

Speaker 1:

I guess. I guess that's why they have seat belts and seat boosters.

Speaker 2:

A few changes, but you know they used to load half the neighborhood back in those cars.

Speaker 1:

Oh, dude man, you could put, like all your friends, in the back of those cars. You could have like six seven kids in the back seat Like we'd all fit.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, we had a brown station wagon, so you know when you're going to the movies, you load everybody in there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we were talking about that too. Like the station wagons, like the ones that you like, can face each other in the back yep in this, oh yeah right, or? Or you'd like the family sport wagon yeah, the station where you're gonna like sit in the thing and it was rear facing so you'd see out the back window, type of thing yeah and and uh, if you were, if you were younger, you had to sit in the back and face backwards.

Speaker 2:

And you're the older kids you're facing forward. No, we didn't have any rules like that, we just sat where no, that's, that's what it was ours. Ours was the younger ones in the back, and Yvette and Alan were in the front. Oh gotcha.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's see, I mean me and my sister. That was it. So it was like sit wherever you want to sit, but we all have these cars. It's so crazy. Like we all in our generation we grew up with this whole thing and kids nowadays don't even understand.

Speaker 2:

Like they can't even fathom, like this world. But well, because now the cars are like little bitty match boxes, I mean even even mine. It's a smaller car but back then, what did you drive in high school? Okay, here we go again. I forgot crying out loud, you walked into it. Yeah, I, you know something. I did that and I even knew that I was looking at you going I just knew that okay, let me. Let me tell you what I drove. I drove a 76 Monte Carlo Sport, do you?

Speaker 1:

remember what those were? Yeah man, Big cars, Big ass cars.

Speaker 2:

But you know, that's when gas was like 98 cents a gallon. Right, which was expensive for us it was expensive, but you didn't care so much about gas. I mean, you put a few dollars in, you could at least get home.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you put a few dollars in, you could at least get home. Oh yeah, that was how we operated too, like a few dollars at a time. Right, it's true, I don't remember anybody in my generation filling up gas tanks.

Speaker 2:

No, like four or five bucks. You're like we can cruise for like four or five bucks.

Speaker 1:

You got some change, man, I need to give it to you.

Speaker 2:

We used to have this strip in Decatur. It was El Dorado and we used to go. There was a McDonald's at each end of it. It was so funny there was a McDonald's at each end. So you'd drive all the way down to one end. You'd cruise from one end to the other. That's what our thing was, right You'd cruise. At one end there's like the high schools of like Mount Zion and Decatur They'd be over here and at the other end you'd have like Stephen, decatur and MacArthur. That's where everybody hung out and if you ever crossed paths, you know what I mean. That's where the fights started.

Speaker 1:

But we used to cruise back and forth in those big old boat cars when we were young. I know the weekends in small towns in America. That's what the thing to do in the weekends was to cruise back and forth up and down the streets, back and forth.

Speaker 2:

It was innocent, but man, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was a lot of fun because you're like yelling and honking and hooting and talking to people along the way.

Speaker 2:

And it all started out from Uncle Sean falling out of a car. Yeah, that's right, All right, man. Hey, listen, I read this story and you know this one's cool.

Speaker 1:

This guy's name is Johnny Kim. Johnny Kim man I'm. That dude is off the Richter scale, Amazing.

Speaker 2:

I was reading this and I'm like is this dude real?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean going through the like, seeing this whole story about him and everything and where he come from and all this stuff, I was like this dude is like, he's like I. You know, in my life I'm always and I know you're the same way like we strive to achieve whatever we want to do, like we weren't. We're going to go and do what we need to do. Right, this cat like came from, uh, a single parent family. You know dad was a wife beater or somebody a drunk, drunk, alcoholic, all that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Which is common in our day Everything against him.

Speaker 1:

Everything against him. The guy ends up being a Navy SEAL.

Speaker 2:

To start with.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he literally was like he wanted to be a warrior and that part of it really like everything he's doing. He's trying to be a warrior in anything he's doing. Like people pop that vision in their head and they think in battle and gladiator and that type of thing. And warriors aren't always just that person. A warrior can be anything and any type of like shoot. If you're striving to be excellent. You're a warrior.

Speaker 2:

But first of all, and you know from being in the military, when you first think of Navy SEAL, right, you think of some muscle-bound beefed-up killing machine, right? Oh yeah, and that's not it with the SEALs. The SEALs it's a mental toughness, and you can be physically bigger than everybody else and you could fail the first day because your muscles give out on you soon. Sure, Right, but will your brain?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean the military focuses and you know SEALs are the ultimate. You know one of the elite fighting forces out there, but all military they're going to break in and try to get you into understanding what your limitations are, because you need to know what you can and can't do, right, I mean, and and being like physical and all that stuff is is a good, good, great thing, and being healthy and all that stuff. But to have that mental fortitude to understand and be smart enough to work as a team to achieve things. And that's what the seal is all about. It's all about a team. You're a team, you're, you're, you're like that, like that watch.

Speaker 2:

You know every integral part of the watch is important and that's what seals do, you know when, when I was reading this story, it made complete sense, though, that he started off being a SEAL. Yeah, okay, it did, and exactly what you just said, because I've done a lot of research on the Navy SEALs, because I love our SEAL teams, I mean they're just awesome Actually, all of our special forces and all of our military, I mean I give credit to every one of them that serve Even you. You know, you did plenty of time yourself in there, but the SEALs, that mental toughness you can understand. He completed 100 successful combat missions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that's out First of all the mental toughness. That's where it comes into, like trying to handle that as anybody, as a human being, going on. I mean the stuff that he saw on 100 missions.

Speaker 2:

Don't even want to re-envision that If you guys really want to see about being a Navy SEAL. I mean, truthfully, go watch what it takes to be a Navy SEAL and then watch what it is to go through Hell Week and I know we're going to talk about the 100 successful combat missions but just to go through Hell Week, just to get to be a Navy SEAL, and then you didn't make it. Then I mean you made it through the program, but after that I mean it just all starts after that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that that first part of it, and you know all military training. You know you have to get through that initial part in order to continue on with your job. Right, like who, who can really handle this job? And that's what they're doing is they're just weeding out to make sure who can handle this job, because we're getting ready to invest millions in you. Right, the military, like, we play with a lot of expensive equipment and they're not going to just give that to anybody. You need to be the right person for the right job.

Speaker 2:

Right, and you see these guys, this guy's picture. But what's so cool about this is you'd think, okay, you're a Navy SEAL, right? I mean, that's what your job was. You're a killing machine. Well, he was a medic, I know, but it wasn't enough for him. What'd he do after that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, After that he didn't decide it, he's. I'm going to go to medical school and went to freaking Harvard, Harvard medical school became a doctor on freaking, believable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that's, that's awesome. I mean, like this guy, like Billy, his succession of, like his, uh, his career is like so amazing from a Navy SEAL to now a doctor. And then when he actually entered the program in the doctor, he decided he saw a launch during that period and started becoming this total space geek and he was like you know, I want to do that. So he literally told Harvard Medical School hey, I signed up to be an astronaut and if they pick me, that's when I'm leaving.

Speaker 2:

And guess what?

Speaker 1:

They picked him.

Speaker 2:

And he is actually the first Korean-American astronaut and he was the recipient of the Silver Star.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Did you see the video with Cruz talking to him? No, yeah, so Senator Cruz was like you know. He's like you know, kim, johnny, kim, here is a guy. He's a Navy SEAL, he's a doctor, so he can kill you and he can bring you back to life. He goes they need me doing all that up in the space station.

Speaker 2:

You know, what I thought was funny, though, when I started looking at this story, was you know how people, when they go through their careers, they have their different pictures. Yeah, he's got some badass pictures. Oh, he's got badass pictures. I mean, he's got a Navy SEAL picture, he's got a Harvard Medical School picture, and then he's got an astronaut picture.

Speaker 1:

First of all, here's the thing Most people in the world dream of being one thing right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like we all like focus on. This is my dream, this is my dream job. This guy keeps on flipping through dream jobs Like he's doing the elite of the elite of the like he just keeps doing it. I mean his next thing if I didn't, if this guy like signed up, I'm now going to be the president, I wouldn't, it wouldn't be surprising.

Speaker 2:

It's like he's got his own wall right. I mean, you get your picture wall and it's like me, me and me right, I mean, what's his next accomplishment after this? If you walked in his house and you seen those pictures, you'd be like oh, those are funny, that's bullshit. You're like oh yeah, you were a SEAL, you're a Harvard doctor and then you're now an astronaut.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think there was a post up on the on the internet where they were showing like his three pictures of different things. They were like this is not a meme you know Exactly.

Speaker 2:

And you're right, it would be the first Korean president.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that'd be next. Right, just set him up there, this dude was incredible, though.

Speaker 2:

Seriously, if you guys get a chance, take a look at this man. I mean he is. He's incredible Big props out to you. I just thought those your pictures alone got drew me into the story because you had some real bad-ass pictures. Bad-ass they were. They were really cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that guy doesn't do, there's nothing he can't accomplish.

Speaker 2:

I mean, obviously he's already proved that to himself whatever he wants to do or be, he's going to it. But, like I said, it goes back to the very beginning of it navy seal. I understood it then. I mean I, I did, I understood a little bit more, but even even accomplished navy seals, because we've had former seals that that are pilots oh yeah going on to other careers and stuff, but to three different ones like that that's. That was unbelievable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the guys like smoking through careers. It's unbelievable. I mean, wow, anyways man uh talking about like space and stuff. Um, did you see it where that us carriers like actually installing star link into their whole entire fleet? What's Starlink Like? Starlink said that Elon Musk uh video, you know?

Speaker 2:

what that Elon Musk video? You know what Starlink I'm?

Speaker 1:

sorry. I had to do that, yeah, but Starlink is like I mean, for those that don't know, and you got a point like it's a internet connectivity system that's all done with satellites and basically anywhere and everywhere is going to be streaming. It's Elon Musk's next big, you know.

Speaker 2:

Future.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so they're putting in their planes and then everybody on the plane I think's eventually going to have free internet on this plane and they're talking about upload speeds at 250 megabytes per aircraft, which is like so much faster than I mean we're probably in by the time it all get installed there. We like this is slow, you know, but but now, man, what we have on the aircraft now and all the different systems that are across all these different companies, I mean it's so smart, so smart.

Speaker 2:

So they said it takes like four days to install the system into the planes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, whereas the current system is actually like a couple weeks in order each aircraft to install the system into the planes yeah, whereas the current system is actually like a couple weeks in order each aircraft install. So, like this system is like ultra fast, so this should be going up pretty quick as far as like installing across your whole entire fleet.

Speaker 2:

So I'm looking forward to that, like you know, now, are they gonna pay for that one, or are they gonna get it for free?

Speaker 1:

they're gonna. They're gonna get it for free. I they're going to, they're going to get it for free. I mean, that's the whole point of the system is like it's. It's very cost effective. The equipment that goes on the aircraft was like half the weight of the old system. It's like it's a. It's a total upgrade.

Speaker 1:

But here's my thing about the internet this Like, we always look at the internet from a perspective of, like you know, we, we purchased that. We, you know, we got that privilege right now, and where we're at in life, you know we can, we can afford to do that. But people don't understand that there's probably about only 50% of the world that has internet. And that's mind blowing when you think about it. Like 50% of the world has internet, so there's half the world doesn't have internet. And they's mind-blowing when you think about it. Like 50 of the world has internet, so there's half the world doesn't have internet and they don't have access. And that's where musk is coming in and he's trying to give it to everybody and it should be free. And the internet is becoming a thing there. It should be free for everybody, like everybody should have access to this now these the, the home systems with starlink.

Speaker 2:

Have you seen that at all?

Speaker 1:

I have not, but I mean I, I, I want to investigate into it because we're not. We used to be kind of remote out where we're at right now but we're not anymore because you know, all the fiber optic companies and stuff can come into our areas but for like farmers and stuff that are out there and like in these rural areas and stuff. I just flew with this gal that her family's big farm and I mean I'm talking big farm and you know they employ like 500 folks on their farm. This is a gigantic farm and uh, she was talking about how they don't have internet access out there and it's super slow and they get spotty and all that stuff. But this would be a perfect system for their farm, you know, to be able to connect everybody and everything.

Speaker 2:

Everybody have it, um, but on an aircraft, though if it is half the weight, I mean just the fuel consumption, yeah, I mean per year of an airline.

Speaker 1:

That's unbelievable I really, I honestly think that someday the internet will be free to everybody and everybody should have access to it. You know, like it's it's something that it's it's so powerful of a tool for all of us that have the privilege of doing having it, those 50% that the other 50% should have it to as well.

Speaker 2:

Everywhere. Yeah Well, I mean, like I said, I'm looking forward to seeing it. Um, and a free internet service means, uh, people can actually do something on the plane if they don't have entertainment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, stop bothering us.

Speaker 2:

All right man. Newark has been a freaking nightmare, dude Stay away.

Speaker 1:

Beware, stay away.

Speaker 2:

You've been told about this over and over again. Let me tell you this summertime in Newark, every time, every day, I walk in there, I don't care what day it is.

Speaker 1:

Sean, delay, delay, delay, yeah man, newark is like the total shit show of I mean like we always call it the armpit of the nation. It is Like it's right now it is so bad and there's so many things breaking down with it right now and and the complications are all stemming from that like um runway shutdown, that's that started it all and so they're trying to like upgrade their runway because newark has is like a little tiny spot and there's so many spaces like that we fly into that are like problem-esque right now. Like dc that washington nationals airport. I mean that's that's kind of a shit show right now. Like DC Washington Nationals Airport I mean that's kind of a shit show right now too. I mean they keep that in and out but they keep having incident after incident. I mean they just had more of the like another helicopter almost got you know and hit another plane, I mean it is bad.

Speaker 2:

I told you this week there was so much stuff that was going on. I mean you had to pick and choose what you wanted to talk about this week.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, you know, with all these airports that have these space problems, like Newark has a space problem, laguardia, you know, LaGuardia has a space problem.

Speaker 1:

We can just go on and on and on, all these airports that have space problems. But here's the thing that have space problems. But here's the thing, places like Denver, you know, their airport was very close to their downtown, it was convenient and everything, and they decided, you know what, we're getting rid of it. We're going to move this so far out and we're going to build a system where we're going to have a train system, all these different ways to communicate, you know, get in and out. But they put it so far out that it's not so much as a convenience but it's actually not an area that's going to create problems. You know, I'm saying like growth will come out to that airport in space. That's what a lot of these places need to do. They need to start like putting them so far out that they you know, new york, the space, that airspace should never have three airports within the range they have right now. No, and there's.

Speaker 2:

There's actually more than that in there, yeah, and it's always congested well. La guardia, I mean private airports, yeah, but even a uh and a cloud, just uh, it'll shut la guardia now yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1:

it's just there are all these airports that are so tight on space. I mean like Midway over in Chicago. I mean convenient airport, right, but the runways are so dang short for the planes that are being flown. Nowadays the planes are sliding off the end of the runway. Yeah, you know, and we hear about that every now and then. So you know, newark, stay away from it this summer. This summer it's a bad, bad situation.

Speaker 2:

You're going to hear us talk about it again, because I guarantee you there's going to be a shit meltdown this summer Sometime you're going to, you're going to hear about it.

Speaker 1:

The other part, you know. The other thing that we didn't talk about was the ATC factor in that, too, right, atc right now has a huge, huge. We've got a big problem, and here's my thoughts on it. It's so impactful to the entire nation Every business that travels, every person that gets on a plane, every company that is there, a travel company, everybody should be concerned about this entire issue because it's going to impact everyone.

Speaker 2:

Well, we talked about the air traffic control a few podcasts ago, way before they even the summer started, because we talked about how they were. They were short air traffic controllers. Yeah, Like 3,500 across the nation.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, they were talking about that. You know that 90 second glitch and that happened. One of them there's been multiple now where they'd lost community community blah and one of them there's been multiple now where they've lost communication. Philadelphia right now is running Newark's airspace and supposedly when that all happened there was only like four ATC guys working. There's supposed to be 14 atc guys working. I mean that that just says bells and whistles and all kinds of if you know how newark works like we do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's. That is freaking crazy scary.

Speaker 1:

It's scary like when we I know we're flying in there and we're being handled by these people, you know, like you know you, hope you're being handled. Yeah, you're hope you're being handled.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

But um yeah it's it's stay away from Newark. Stay away from Newark, for sure, and it's a bad place, but anyways, man, hey, um, so let's go around the globe.

Speaker 2:

All right man. This one just seen this other day had to had to throw this one in there because it was actually funny. It was going around the internet. It said this pastor had given a flight attendant an allergy list. An allergy list, yep, an allergy list about, okay, what you can and can't do because I'm on the airplane. Please, why Come on, sean? What you can and can't do because I'm on a plane.

Speaker 1:

Dude, I'm just like every time somebody comes on me I got a peanut allergy or I got this and could you please make sure, but the first one's the best.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go ahead. Listen, don't brew any coffee because I'm allergic to the smell what. Yep.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

On an airplane.

Speaker 1:

On an airplane. We've already brewed it. She needs. Whoever this is needs their own plane.

Speaker 2:

We already brewed it yeah, we already brewed it Be coming on the plane. I'm drinking it yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

As I'm drinking it right in front of you, right, right, right. Oh yeah, maybe you should take another flight to coffee, and then next no cashews, no cashews well, no nuts.

Speaker 1:

Well nuts, I can see it's being specific about no cashews. Come on, she's in 4A, sean 4A.

Speaker 2:

Cashews are in 4A, sean. Oh right, right, right, all right, so no cashews. Sherry knows that. And then no fragrance or chemical smells. So we can't have any cologne perfume. If you have any scented soap or body lotion, you have to go wash that off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this person is allergic to people. Period we're not done yet, keep going.

Speaker 2:

And here's the other one Whatever, just make sure that there's no gasoline or airplane fuel smells.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, as if we can control that.

Speaker 2:

On an airplane. On an airplane, on an engine start Exactly no smelling of fuel.

Speaker 1:

Good luck, this person needs to be walking on in like a little bubble suit. You know, with a little like a little.

Speaker 2:

Like a plastic bubble yeah.

Speaker 1:

She looks like a little astronaut walking in and sitting down in a seat. That's what she needs to be in, because this lady is unrealistic.

Speaker 2:

But she'd appreciate it if you didn't brew that coffee and you would refrain from serving any nuts in first class because of her allergies. Also, if, by chance, she has several medications that she needs to take and she's going to need to drink a lot of water. So if you could give her a large bottle of water on the onset of the flight, it would greatly be appreciated. So she wants a larger bottle of water. Could you give that to her?

Speaker 1:

No, dude. Let me explain something right now. One if you've got all these requests and you've got all these problems and stuff, you need to take care of yourself. It's kind of like that diabetic that comes on and they're like oh, I didn't bring my insulin, you know? Like why aren't you taking care of yourself? This person needs to take care of themselves.

Speaker 2:

Now see, I'm thinking different. I'm imagining me and you working a flight and we get handed this piece of paper and at the end of it it says thank you for your patience and understanding and trying to make the flight as enjoyable as possible for me. I really appreciate you. 4a. I would love to see. I would absolutely love to see our face, you being a lead, me being the first class flight attendant, and we're reading this and we're looking at each other.

Speaker 1:

I'm serious man, that person sitting next to him. They get cashews, they get coffee oh, you didn't order this and body lotion, yeah, yeah, I would definitely go spray my little spritzer down there. My poopery, poopery, I poopery your ass right off the air. Exactly. I'm telling you, like this lady needs a private jet, like whoever she is, come on. This isn't even realistic. And the part that just tops it off, the icing on the cake, is I need you to give me water, because I can't bring my own damn water. Come on, no.

Speaker 2:

As ridiculous as this sounds this is what we deal with.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is the product of this culture, right now. I mean this is so unacceptable and for that person to even think that that letter or those requests are acceptable is so ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

You know we talk about this all the time.

Speaker 1:

but remember folks, this is 1%. This is only 1%, less than 1%.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's even less than 1%, but we get to talk about this less than 1% because it always stands out. But could you imagine going to work and getting that kind of letter? I know me and you. I would just start, I would just bust out laughing. But hey, listen, this one, you're going to love this one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what is it?

Speaker 2:

Okay, airbus A320. It diverted to Pensacola. You know what it diverted for? No, because the autopilot stopped working. Yeah, they didn't pay that motherfucker?

Speaker 1:

Oh my God. First of all, the number one thing a pilot does is fly a freaking plane. Are you kidding me? That's like me pulling over to the side of the road and I can't go any further because my cruise control doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 2:

Are you kidding me Come?

Speaker 1:

on.

Speaker 2:

I was sitting there thinking well, they didn't pay him right the autopilot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the autopilot didn't get paid enough, so he left. He stopped working, man.

Speaker 2:

He was under contract negotiations. They didn't pay his ass.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's so stupid man, but you diverted.

Speaker 2:

Come on, could you imagine explaining that? Could you? Okay, If you was in the back? And the reason why we're diverting to Pensacola is the autopilot is not working.

Speaker 1:

Please.

Speaker 2:

And now you're sitting there going wait a minute, wait, aren't you a pilot? And there are two of you in there, right, well, why? Don't you guys fly, fly, they can't oh wow, oh yeah, oh, wait a minute, you can't fly it yeah, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

You know, I was uh, thinking about this and stuff and back in the what a few years ago, the big max issue, we're having all that MAX and stuff, the stuff this report came out of. You know, all those planes that crashed into MAX were from these countries where they literally do not train their pilots to fly. They train their pilots to automation, like they heavily rely on automation. One of the planes that actually flipped over one of the pilots when the autopilot flipped off, he flipped it back on and he did it three times before they crashed. Like at one point would you be saying you know, I need to grab the freaking yoke and start flying the plane well, you understand why I don't leave our country now.

Speaker 1:

You're going international now you're going international.

Speaker 2:

Now you're going international. Yeah, man, that's going to happen, but I'm playing with my US pilots yeah you are man, but you know something. This one was a US carrier. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah, they actually divert, even as a crew member. If me and you were sitting in there and you're like, hey, guys, listen, just want to let you know we're diverting because the autopilot's not working Me and you would have something to say about that, oh, yeah, I'd be on them.

Speaker 1:

Like, yeah, white on rice, dude, I'd be there. They would not stop me from freaking like comment about this, like are you kidding me? Do your damn job.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, I got a place.

Speaker 1:

I got a place. I got to go Get her the ass home. Yeah, I got an agenda right here. You don't have your freaking conveniences up there.

Speaker 2:

I want to get off the plane, your ass can't fly the damn thing.

Speaker 1:

You're going to triple my pay. Work Exactly, but you can't fly the damn airplane.

Speaker 2:

Only the autopilot can fly it and he don't want to fly it no more because he's under contract negotiations. Oh my God. Anyway, listen, this was good A 911 call. You know where it's from, no Excuse me 911.

Speaker 1:

Help me help you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm in an airplane right now. Where In an airplane? Where are you at? I'm in the belly Belly.

Speaker 1:

Yep when.

Speaker 2:

Well, I fell asleep in the belly of the plane and now it's taking off and I'm going to get cut off real soon. So, please, somebody's got to come get me. The baggage handler fell asleep in the belly of the aircraft. And they locked his ass in they locked his ass in and he got a 911 call.

Speaker 1:

Dude, here's the thing. When I heard this story it's know I'd be like kicking and pounding and banging like on because the floor of the plane for the passengers you're just right underneath it. Like I've been like pounding, trying to make as much noise. Hey, get me out of this. Like I gotta be out you know like I see, if you were down there, I'm just turning the volume up, right, but that's it.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing. Everybody in that flight probably had their headphones on already. They were already in their little thing, unless you were actually moving the plane. The vibration they're like, what's that thumping? They probably aren't hearing you.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you're stuck down there now, right, because you just got cut off from cell service. Well, maybe you get Wi-Fi from cell service because you're well, maybe you get wi-fi. Well, here's the thing, man, with starlink you'll get. Why free wi-fi?

Speaker 1:

you could actually text them and tell you tell them that you're freezing your ass off down here? It's not installed till yet.

Speaker 2:

I would, I would ask you, I'd ask you. Okay, so you're stuck down there. What's the first thing you're doing? Dude, I'm making as much noise as possible okay, I'm going through the bags and find some warm ass clothes because it's going to get cold quick.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's the thing, is that. My other thought was they don't always pressurize that Exactly, like it's not required to pressurize that system, like people don't realize that an aircraft, like the luggage area, isn't pressurized.

Speaker 2:

And so, unless they have a live animal down there, you better hope you see a dog.

Speaker 1:

You better hope they do. Unless they have a live animal down there, you better hope you see a dog. Yeah, you better hope they do, because if one, you're going to get real cold and hypothermia is going to kick in real quick if you don't start. Yeah, can you imagine if that really happened and survival instincts. And then you come in and the guy's like baggage is all dang and the guy's just wrapped up in clothes?

Speaker 2:

He's like you, better hope your ass got free wi-fi baggages are all done.

Speaker 1:

You're trying to like it comes off the rack here's your open bag and you know, your underwear is on top of his head we found the 911 guy. He's down here he's like a popsicle. He survived with all your guys's clothes you get your underwear on his head. Right, you do, you do. You do want to put anything on your head to keep yourself warm? That's for sure A little bit different than a wheel well, right, well, yeah, that'd be like first class. Yeah, you've got all this different amenities you can use.

Speaker 2:

I wonder if they made him go back.

Speaker 1:

The same way, I'd be looking for something to eat, because people put stuff in their bags too. That's true, because people put stuff in their bags too.

Speaker 2:

That's true, I'd be looking for a dog and hoping they're going to pressurize that cabin. Yeah, that's crazy man. Okay, what about the one? You had? Two flights diverted from Mexico to Montgomery Alabama because of the storms. Yeah, all the passengers, all these passengers, had to remain on board for six hours. Two planes.

Speaker 1:

That's great, you know. So people don't realize like there's a lot of routes that we fly that are like just on borders. You know like we're coming from Canada to US, or you know like you're coming over borders and stuff and if you've got a cell system you know pilots are going to divert to the closest airport that doesn't have weather Right.

Speaker 2:

But what's the reason? They're stuck on a plane though, Sean.

Speaker 1:

They're stuck on a plane because they're in customs. No customs, there's no customs.

Speaker 2:

No customs, no getting off the plane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I had a situation like that one time where we diverted Guy was having a heart attack on a plane. We're coming back from Cancun, we're going Cancun to I think we were heading to San Francisco and this guy has a heart attack and you know we're going to divert, so we divert. But we actually diverted into El Paso. So we diverted from Cancun to El Paso, dropped down the dude's having a heart attack, ambulance comes, all this stuff. They take him off the aircraft.

Speaker 1:

Guess what happened? They were not going to let his wife get off the aircraft because the customs yeah, I was the lead in the flight and I'm. I looked at the guys, I'm like, listen, somebody better figure out something, because that guy getting off in the she's going with him and I'm not doing that to any family, right? I said we're not moving the aircraft until we get here off. I said so, somebody figure it out, because this is you're talking stupidness. Nobody's going to tell you, oh, we're going to separate your families, right here. But we, we got her off and got it, the whole things, and their customs agents finally come there from whatever they had to come to whatever. But uh, that's, that's ridiculous certain circumstances.

Speaker 2:

I can understand that, uh because? But they're still gonna have to be a customs person that's going to have to follow them because, for whatever reason, they're going to have to stay with them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in this situation, like with all the diversion for weather and stuff, the whole plane's not going to. You know they're not just dumping the whole plane off.

Speaker 2:

Six hours, though, man, I tell you you're going to run out of every damn thing.

Speaker 1:

You're going gonna be giving them every pretzel on board, those little damn cookies, all those little tarmac cookies. You're gonna give them them damn things away too. Yeah, water, these are the pasture rules of uh, all this stuff. And you know, were these us carriers too, by the way they were, but you're gonna. You're gonna be down to drinking plain water yeah, I mean there's just you're gonna be doing whatever you got to do to like get through it, right, yeah, anyways.

Speaker 2:

All right, man, we had another one. It had a land. This air bus was landed in San Juan, puerto Rico, right, and it's so hard to pieces of it just came off plane. Oh shit, you slam the. You slam that shit down, man.

Speaker 1:

When a piece falls off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it didn't it. It didn't. It actually took back off and and uh, because they didn't supposedly they didn't have, I think they overshot it and uh, and some pieces fell off. So they had to actually circle back around. They had to clean the runaway off so they could land again unbelievable dude.

Speaker 1:

Uh, hard landings are brutal, brutal. We've been through hard landings, yep, I mean like. I mean you can have hard landings and planes where, like, the plane doesn't get damaged, but there's still, even there's hard landings that the plane when it does.

Speaker 2:

I can't even imagine well, you've seen the wheel. Well, what happens to the wheel? Well, it collapses yeah someone on some of them. You slam it down, it's going to collapse the wheel.

Speaker 1:

Well, oh, all kinds of things, blow, blow tires Blow tires out, blow wells, bend the structures, you know all kinds of crazy stuff. The planes now have sensors on them. I don't know if you knew that the four hard landings Like there's sometimes, like we might not think it's a hard landing as far as like boom, it was rough, whatever. But if the sensor on the plane now they have sensors where if it goes off um, the plane has to have this like hard landing inspection so they have to undo the structural instruction to the whole plane well, if shit fell off your airplane, that would be basically that you didn't even need a sensor.

Speaker 2:

You didn't need a sensor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you just pick the shit up off off the freaking runway yeah, when you pick up the piece off the runway, you go there's.

Speaker 2:

There's a little bit of hard line.

Speaker 1:

I'm sensing that this was a hard lane A little bit.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that's unbelievable. Okay, flight from Sydney to San Francisco. It took approximately now listen to this one 28 hours. No way, yeah, sydney to San Francisco 28 hours, diverted twice.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, that's like a round-the-world trip.

Speaker 2:

Well, it sounded like yours. The first one was diverted because, well, this is common, we have medical emergencies. Yeah, so they had to divert for a medical emergency and they had to land in Samoa. Wow, yeah, so they diverted to Samoa for the medical emergency. Took a little while they took back off and then they realized they have another problem the other problem was crew legalities. Crew legalities, wow so we're all timing out. Yeah, they're all timed out.

Speaker 1:

So they had to uh, they had to divert to Honolulu the crazy thing about that is that, like the I don't know what exactly the crew legalities are international I'm gonna know here soon. But, um, like for the pilots, there's three pilots on those international trips Right, because you have the international relief officer that takes over. So they do like rotating breaks and stuff, so the pilots actually get a break to sleep and all that stuff. But still this is a lot. That's a long-ass flight.

Speaker 2:

Too freaking long for me. Hey, listen, when you're part of that 28-hour group, you just let me know, buddy. Yeah, Because I'll be sitting there doing my little turn down here in Florida and I'll be back at home again. So you just let me know I'm not going to be there ever?

Speaker 1:

Yes, you will no.

Speaker 2:

All right, man Go with the destination.

Speaker 1:

Destination man. All right, man, go with the destination destination man. He, you know what? I don't have a destination, but I was looking on on this, uh, this uh internet the other day and, uh, you know, wicked is like the thing right now. Everybody, like all my nieces, all my like I have so many nieces, all the nieces, they're all running around. You know, uh, you know I'm popular, I'm so popular like they're you should have been on wiki, dude, they're like like all the songs are wicked, they're just like it's.

Speaker 1:

It's the thing right now, especially for little girls right now they're watching those things over and over and over and over. But uh, I came across a thing where you know, um, part of you know, the wicked story is the wizard of oz. So the wizard of oz is super cool, but we always thought you know dorothy's from kansas and stuff, and you're like, well, where in kansas? They've always just said she's from kansas. So some city in kansas this uh liberal kansas decided to claim dorothy's house and they built a house there. That um the 1939 film, it's a replica of that, and so you can actually like go into this house and everything and and see all of like auntie m stuff and you know dorothy stuff. And then their big thing right now, um, the house is constructed with a yellow brick road outside of it and in the other thing they've added this thing where they have a tornado simulator in it, which I thought was like pretty wild, like I've seen that one time. Have you ever seen a tornado simulator?

Speaker 1:

no so in chicago if you go to the science and industry museum, they actually have a tornado simulator inside the museum. So you literally like start this thing up and they like pump some smoke and whatever like theater smoke and you'll see the freaking tornado. But this building is like, I gotta say, like six, seven stories high inside and they'll have this tornado form in the middle of the freaking building.

Speaker 2:

It's wild all Now going back to Wizard of Oz, since we were going. I know, Wicked, who were your favorite characters in Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's a good question. I would probably say I was digging the Tin man, tin man. Are the scarecrows probably my guys?

Speaker 2:

I like the flying monkeys, the flying monkeys. I like Fly, monkeys, fly. Have you seen Wicked? Yeah, I've seen Wicked, but I'm talking about the. You're talking about the original Dorothy, so I'm talking about the Wizard of.

Speaker 1:

Oz. Right, right, right. So the monkeys flying were, those were super cool, but the new wicked like made those monkeys so like kind of a different light to those monkeys I mean there was. So it was super cool how they did them and they grew those wings and all that stuff.

Speaker 2:

it was wild okay, now you the munchkins, right, munchkins, you remember that? Um, we represent the lollipop kids. See, I knew, you knew, you know you know. Yeah, I love the lollipop yeah.

Speaker 1:

The wizard boss has such a. It's such a cool. You know the one thing, one of the things that we've kind of like gotten away from in us growing up, we always had traditional movies, like holiday movies. Through the holidays, certain movies always came, came and went. Came when they were on tv, oh cool, it's wizard boss time. You know like oh cool. And you know christmas we got freaking. You know all these santa claus stories and all you know like all that type of stuff was happening. But today is that still even around?

Speaker 1:

no, I mean is that like is it? Are we out of so touched that we're? That's not. I don't see that because of the internet and because of all the streaming and stuff, we don't have those like traditions where we're like the whole family sitting around watching these cool movies I mean you, you go back to where's it?

Speaker 2:

okay, go back to wizard of oz. Even michael jackson the whiz, yeah the way I mean he went back and he did his own thing with the wh yeah.

Speaker 1:

You got to ease on down. Ease on down the road.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I knew that was coming. Yeah, but you know, diana Ross.

Speaker 1:

Diana Ross yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it was unbelievable, I mean, but it was the simplicity of that and when you used to, you've seen this and it was like even the small things, like the monkeys, and you remember the lollipop Ken and the Wicked Witch how did she melt?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, throwing water on her Water. Yeah, simple water, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You got this Wicked Witch right that can destroy everybody, but she can be destroyed by a little water, water, oh, I'm melting, I'm melting. Anyway, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, Wizard of Oz cool thing. But it was cool that this town kind of like, just hey, we're taking over this thing.

Speaker 2:

Making some money from it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, making an attraction to go to. So there's your destination. Go visit the original house of Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2:

All right, I have to do the quote because you picked it out for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, this is perfect.

Speaker 2:

You are who you are meant to be. Dance as if no one is watching. Love as if it's all you know. Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as you'll die today. James Dean.

Speaker 1:

James Dean, dude James Dean again.

Speaker 2:

That's it, man. Everything but the motorcycle man. I tell you, I go back to the 50s. Remember, Sean won't go back anywhere.

Speaker 1:

No, he's staying here, hell no All right guys?

Speaker 2:

Hey, listen, we had a great time this week. Had a lot of fun, man.

Speaker 1:

A lot of fun. We will see you next week on Cabin Pressure.

Speaker 2:

See you on Cabin Pressure guys. See you, Bye.

Speaker 1:

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