Cabin Pressure with Shawn and "G"

Sun Poisoning, Platform Boots, and Other Flight Attendant Nightmares

Shawn & G Episode 40

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Step into the cockpit of comedy and candid conversation as veteran flight attendants Shawn and G share stories from their combined 70+ years in the skies. 

The duo kicks things off with a surprising revelation – Shawn's discovery that his mixed-race heritage didn't protect him from sun poisoning, leading to a hilarious account of what happens when stubborn airline crew ignore sunscreen advice. Their sunburn stories will have you reaching for the aloe vera while laughing along.

Between golf tournament tales and warnings about sophisticated phishing scams targeting travelers, Shawn and G deliver insider knowledge on the airline industry's complex seniority system. Shawn's upcoming transfer from Cleveland to Newark reveals how "seniority gold" affects everything from schedules to quality of life for flight crew members.

The heart of the episode features truly outrageous passenger encounters – from a flamboyant traveler channeling Randy Savage and Gene Simmons to a passenger who identified as a fox, complete with an actual tail. These stories showcase the unparalleled people-watching opportunities that make their profession uniquely entertaining.

The conversation takes a meaningful turn as the hosts share touching experiences with Make-A-Wish flights, helping families create special memories during difficult times. Their genuine emotion shines through as they discuss the perspective these encounters provide.

After addressing the recent Dreamliner tragedy with appropriate gravity, Shawn and G offer valuable education on different types of turbulence, critical phases of flight, and why keeping your seatbelt fastened matters more than you might think. Their practical advice about arriving early for flights could save your next vacation from unnecessary stress.

Whether you're a frequent flyer, aviation enthusiast, or just enjoy authentic conversation laced with humor and heart, this episode delivers first-class entertainment with unexpected nuggets of wisdom that might just save your life (or at least your next trip).

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Speaker 1:

What did you say? The first dreamliner went down, sitting on top of your roof watching a tornado go by. Beware of the fishing scam. All this next on Cabin Pressure with Sean and G, prepare for the hey, everyone welcomein Pressure. What's up. That's a frog thing, what's?

Speaker 2:

up.

Speaker 1:

What's up? Dude me and my cousin. Every time I call him I don't care for, like ever since those commercials and shit. People are going what's up? And you're like we do that every time. Me and him still do this, Like he can call me and we answer. What's that?

Speaker 2:

you sound like that guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god what's going on everybody? How's it going, man, what you been doing? G?

Speaker 2:

I've been doing the uh orlando routes orlando yeah, I go back and forth in orlando and then um was, uh, doing my lawn. But you know something, what, something, what I realized the first day of summer actually coming up around the 20th right Coming up next week.

Speaker 1:

Next week is, and it's getting hot here.

Speaker 2:

It's got hot. That's what I was just saying. Okay, you guys, you remember that you always get that first burn of the summer. That was my ass. The other day I got it right now I got it in the back of my peeling and all that shit. I hate that.

Speaker 1:

You're so white, shut up, you're so white.

Speaker 2:

Shut up, man, you racial thing, man.

Speaker 1:

I went into work the other day and I get there and the agent hadn't seen me. She's like, wow, how'd you get so tan? Yeah, sean, you got a nice tan.

Speaker 2:

You got a nice tan. Yeah, it looked like an island guy.

Speaker 1:

I just let her go. Shut up. I haven't gotten burned yet, no, I got burned.

Speaker 2:

So you know I hate that. Though you sit there and it's like I get in the shower, you automatically know it, you start washing your back and then it's raw skin.

Speaker 1:

It's like that sensation where you just like that stinging.

Speaker 2:

Burn. It's not stinging, it just burns. Yeah, Raw skin just came off, Sean. Anyway, I hate that. I was on a mower going in the backyard and I knew it as soon as I got in the shower. You can feel that sensation on your back. You know you're screwed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, that's the worst. Every time I a funny story about this. So I'm half white, half black and I'm like my whole entire life I never used sunscreen ever, like I just I was a kid and so this, this happened to me a while ago. But I go down to Florida and I'm like hanging out and we go go out on the beach and everything. My buddy's like you don't need, you need to put some sunscreen on you better. I'm like I know I'm good. I'm good dude. Have you ever gotten sun poisoning?

Speaker 1:

black people burn too sean, I had no fucking idea dude, it was the craziest, weirdest sensation. You're talking about, that sting. It was like I started getting these hives and it was like one side of my body starting in this hives and then it started like transitioning to the other side of my body and then it decided to roll down my fucking whole torso and then, like it was, I was like what the hell is happening. But you know, that's what you white people get Like it's weird White.

Speaker 1:

I had never got it before. I didn't know. I was like I was immune. But I never got it before. I didn't know, I was like I was immune, but it was dude. It went all the way down, like across my penis. I think both sides of my penis had it like it was great. It was like I was like oh, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

Wait a minute. How did your penis get in this side?

Speaker 1:

dude, it wasn't the pain, it was like once you get this poison, it's kind of like oh, okay, it's just it's like that systemic reaction, like you know, one side of your body got it the other side and it was like it was just going through my body like it was like it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Do you know? The first thing, that what happens as soon as you get burnt? Somebody's like oh, put aloe on it, aloe yeah right, you get that sticky gooey shit and then put it all over your body.

Speaker 1:

I've been down in the islands where they're like, like you know the help there, whatever the whoever's there at the hotel, whatever they'll go and chop like fresh aloe around the hotel and like bring you leaves and you're like here, just rub this on you like little leaves, fresh aloe, right what was that white shit that you used to put the zinc oxide zinc right is that yeah, because you, you sit there and you go shut up, there you go, so you didn't have.

Speaker 1:

I never did that shit. Shut up, there you go, so you didn't have. Rudolph the Red Nose. There was some pale people running around the pool where I was at. They had these white noses on.

Speaker 2:

Back to the white people again. Right, it was crazy, you found it. Wait a minute. A black person got sun poisoning, yeah dude.

Speaker 1:

It was a weird experience, man. Ever since then my buddy's like remember you getting sun poisoning? Remember how it was bad? Put some sunscreen on, dude and you still don't do it.

Speaker 2:

It's the same thing every year. I'm out doing the lawn. I'm like, oh hell, it ain't that bad, right, right. I'm sitting out there and I'm like, oh, it feels really nice Go back in.

Speaker 1:

No, I was like the most horrible experience. I get it. I get it, but I had to live it to get it right. I saw it a lot but I never experienced it until you know and my wife's always complaining about that Like we went on this vacation one time. You know what midges are? Yeah, yeah, those little no-see-ums and shit like that right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I never, ever had no-see-um issues because I don't live south, okay, and we get to this island and we're out in the Bahamas and it's on this like remote island, very exclusive, the whole nine yards, and we got no-see-ums, like I mean, from my knees down, it was like ostrich skin, I mean. It was so many. I had thousands of bites all over my legs Like they had attacked us. It was crazy and I was like you know, it's like that sensation where you like your skin, you just want to like rip your skin off because it's itching so bad, and I'm just going crazy. I'm like. I told her, I was like I'm leaving tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

That's the same thing, I'm out of this. It that's the same thing, I'm out of this. It's like when I reach back on my back, you know, you know, when it gets to that point, you reach back on your back, it feels like the bumps and scabs and everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's always like. She's like. She's like, yeah, you didn't believe me, I had like she was complaining early. She's like oh, I'm getting bit, I'm getting bit.

Speaker 2:

And given I was freaking, no seeing meat, yeah, but you, being black, you can't see him as much. Dude, it wasn't I?

Speaker 1:

think.

Speaker 2:

On a white guy, you're going to see a bunch of little bumps.

Speaker 1:

How many bumps I had on my legs. I was like how could I have not possibly seen all these thousands of bugs on me? You know like it was crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's why they call them no, seeing, yeah, and she was like. She was like, yeah, see, now when you get it, oh, it's so bad and you're leaving and you're going home. You little wimpy. I'm like, okay, I get it. What's been going on with you man? It's been crazy man, let's see.

Speaker 1:

So this last weekend golf tournament golf is such a crazy sport, man. I mean, I know you don't golf, but it is just the most frustrating. And people that are out there, they get this like golf bug, that you'll you get it. Like all the golfers out there are like, no, we know what you're talking about, but it's here's the thing. First, we first day of the tournament. It's a two day tournament. We get out there.

Speaker 1:

The format of the tournament is we do a um, we do a scramble. On the first part for golfers that know that it's like, just, you know, kind of hit the ball, pick a spot and hit the ball. Anyways, the next section is alternate shot. We blow up two, three holes. On the alternate shot I'm talking about, we took ourselves out of the tournament. We were, we were literally, I think, nine strokes away from the next person in our flight. It was terrible, man, we were just, it was a terrible.

Speaker 1:

So then the second day, boom, we come out here to my home course. It's aggregate, which means every shot counts. You don't like keep, count, you just keep counting. Like you can like go out of bounds, keep, you got to keep counting. You can get 100, doesn't matter, but aggregate on one side. And then the other one was just best ball. So one of the two of our shots, dude, we went on a rampage. Seven holes in a row, birdies on the aggregate, which was like insane. And every golfer's out there like whoa, like it is crazy. We finished the second day, we're five shots in front of everybody in our flight. But we the second day, we're five shots in front of everybody in our flight but we crapped ourself the first day, so we ended up four behind.

Speaker 2:

I love that when you're, when you're sitting, I'm sitting there watching you and I'm like yeah, we were a big bucket of suck. The first it was yeah, it's suck.

Speaker 1:

And then you had your happy gilmore moment yeah, my face was definitely on the side of that suck bucket and we were like it was literally three holes, like the whole day was pretty decent, but three holes. We just like it was terrible, and so anyways, but yeah, and we did this golf tournament this weekend. We had some fun. It was, you know, all that stuff's good, but you know what else happened during that golf tournament. That was is crazy. So I don't know if you you might have got, you might have participated in this too. So we're all sitting around, we're done with the tournament. We're sitting there, blah, blah, blah. All of our phones Like everybody had a phone in the place, like bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. We're like you think it's like a Zamber alert or nothing. No, we all get this message and it says've had this ticket that we haven't paid and that make you scam ass ticket thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got that too.

Speaker 1:

So everybody, like all of us, we're all sitting next to each other. All of us get the exact same fishing thing that we hadn't paid a ticket, and now we're in. Interest rates are going to go up and you're going to. It's going to cost you this much more money, and you better call us at this.

Speaker 2:

Did you call?

Speaker 1:

Literally I raised, I'm like in the whole clubhouse I'm like hey, did anybody else get this phishing scam ticket thing? And like everybody but one guy in there, like, raise their hand. They're like, yeah, I just got it too. Like how do they do? Like, how do they think they're going to make money off of this? This is crazy, because people actually call.

Speaker 2:

I mean sometimes you get these old people and they just call. They have no idea. They're like, wait a minute, I'm going to get in trouble.

Speaker 1:

So I'm thinking to myself. I'm like old people are the ones that they're really like, the people that don't they think that this is real, it's just like every person in the club was like, no, this is, this is bullshit.

Speaker 1:

Or if somebody just got their ass in trouble, they'll be like, yeah, maybe, maybe, that was me, but it happens and I know what happens for real because, like my father-in-law, you know, he got this call one time that he got this like thing saying like your, your, your grandson is in a jail and he needs you to put up bail and all this stuff. And they called his grandson like by his name. He was like Cameron's in jail and so he was like it was. They were, they knew all the key things to tell him. My father-in-law was like driving down to the bank, he was at the teller when his daughter one of his daughters finally was like no, no, no, no, no. You know, did you call cameron? Like call, verify cameron, you know, is this real?

Speaker 1:

if he's getting anything he'd already withdrew the money he already withdrew the money, like I was, like what I was like, oh my gosh, I mean it. Just it breaks your heart to like hear these, like these people that are scamming, these old people that don't know better. But uh, you know, I mean this guy is such a good guy Like he's just a genuine good guy that he was like I'm going to help. He didn't do anything for his family.

Speaker 2:

Could you imagine? I mean, look at that, that's millions of robo calls, right, millions, millions of that. And how many people actually answer that thing?

Speaker 1:

It's bullshit out there, people. I'm going to tell you right now If it sounds like bullshit, it is bullshit. It smells like, tastes like it's bullshit.

Speaker 2:

Especially, they're not going to text message you. They owe you, you owe money. They're sending you a damn certified letter. Your ass is going to jail.

Speaker 1:

Everybody, like the last one that was. That was like going crazy, was the toll, toll, right, you know, booth that didn't work so well, so they had to switch it up now yeah, the turnpike one.

Speaker 1:

You owe you your back, oh and all that bullshit, but dude it was. It was crazy just to be sitting there and then all these phones go off at once and it's, everybody just got the same exact text and I'm like this is stupid, you're stupid, but anyways, it's pretty good. Yeah, anyways, other than that man, I'm getting ready to go over to transfer it over to Newark.

Speaker 2:

You're going to be officially in Newark. Flight attendant.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to officially go to Newark. Man, I can't Like the armpit of the world. Here I come, you know, it's like I'm thinking to myself what have I gotten myself into? Another bucket of suck? It could be suck especially. I mean it gets to be suck quick over there too. I'm interested to see what you hold. Yeah, yeah, that's one thing that I wanted to talk about. Like you know, seniority in flight attendants is like that's everything, and it doesn't matter if you're a flight attendant or a pilot or whatever. Any seniority, or a gate agent or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Seniority in the airline business is our gold right and so I mean we live and breathe by our seniority and like why I'm transferring over to Cleveland so people understand this, like there's like 350 so flight attendants here in cleveland and I'm like 46, 47 in the base, which is very senior, that's, that's what that would be yeah for our base it's very senior base but our flying that we do out of here it's just so limited that we can't like I can't get the days off that I want.

Speaker 1:

I I can't get the trips that I want, and it's like you're doing Orlando this week and month, I'm doing Orlando 2 this month, other days, whatever. It's like man, it's been so hard and I can't get the days I want off. So I got so frustrated. I got to go over to Newark because my senior over there means something and, to put it in perspective, it's like newark has 6 000 flight attendants. I'm going to be 640 in the base over there. I mean that is huge, that's huge and like the amount of flying that they have there. So out of the 6 000 flight attendants, you would think what?

Speaker 2:

like a thousand of them, maybe you're in reserve well, most people don't understand, um, when we bid our lines for the month different bases it's like a small book, right? I mean it's a book of pairings and lines and all this shit and you don't know what you're going to hold. You've got to figure out what you can hold. You know position bidding there's a whole lot of stuff that goes on just to making your monthly bid.

Speaker 1:

Dude, there's a lot of stuff that goes on just to making your monthly bid.

Speaker 2:

Dude, there's a lot of education that has to happen in order to understand the bit. You can screw that up big time, even going to new work. You could jack that up big time. Oh yeah, you could.

Speaker 1:

You could be picking a line that nobody wants I didn't even know where to start over there, right. So, like my big deal, my big thing is like, okay, I want I'm going over there early to like get rid of my trips because in our airline we can go down to zero flying. So I want to get rid of my trips so I can come back here in Cleveland and fly on the days that I want to fly on, because somebody out there is creating these schedules and flying that I can't do here in Cleveland. So because of that, I'm going over there and I can do pretty much wherever I'm going because I'm senior daddy over there. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's what we call, even as junior flight attendants, is line chasing. Yeah, yeah, I mean they chase lines and it's for better schedules, and that's what you do. I mean, cleveland, we don't have good lines, we don't? I mean they suck. You have a certain level of turns and then that's it, and after that it just falls off the shelf.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's no glamour flying here in Cleveland, like you know, like we don't have destinations where, like everybody's just like, oh my goodness, I've got to go there, man, let me head, I mean we got things like Tijuana.

Speaker 2:

Tijuana would be a good place.

Speaker 1:

I used to have a buddy when I was in the Air Force and we had this running line going all the time when she got too crazy. We would just look at each other and we'd say this line We'd be like Tijuana, Tijuana, take your gramatine orgy to Tijuana and we would just laugh You're killing me, man. I remember that from when I was 19 years old and we'd do this stuff and my man and my man's out still out there. He'd be like he's, he's gonna be like what. I've never heard that before. There's only one guy I know that says that. Do you wanna, do you want, to take grimm to norgy, do you?

Speaker 2:

wanna you sound like that one. What's that one? That guy that does all those voices with it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, man, it was like it's like the pepper that talks.

Speaker 1:

I mean when you're, when the shit's getting crazy in the military and you're just like you gotta like come back to reality. We just look at each other and say that saying and we just start laughing like I mean the sergeants and shit would be like you guys laughing about, do you wanna? Anyways, man, the seniority is so crazy that, uh, I'm getting ready. You know like newark's got glamour places to go, so like I'm looking at all these cool places. I mean I haven't been anywhere in the airline business. I know you were based international first, like you were over in honolulu right, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you got to do a lot of the South Pacific South pack, yeah, yeah. So like I'm not, I've done none of that. So I'm like I need to do this before I die.

Speaker 2:

I mean you're definitely going to do the other side.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So I mean like they got like anything and everything that, um, we go to, like I mean we got all these different cool places you know, everywhere in Europe I mean Croatia, um Africa, all these different places that I've never, ever been, and I'm like, I'm like man I can hold right now, like I'm doing. Orlando turns this month.

Speaker 2:

I think next month I may be doing cape town or johannesburg or in croatia. Just realize this if you come back with something and your ass can't get off the toilet, dude, I'm gonna laugh my ass off and just you know what.

Speaker 1:

You know what cures that pepto-bismismol. It'll help you out.

Speaker 2:

You remember this conversation, brother. You remember this conversation. I told you there's a lot of reasons why I don't leave the United States and you might have a story about it.

Speaker 1:

I've traveled all over the world as a military brat and, yeah, you know, your digestive system's got to be.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no shit. I was on the roadside restaurant with you Right Down in Central America. You shitting me Woof, woof. Yeah the dog, still the dog. Yeah, you wait, you're going to have some stories.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, man, I'm looking forward to the whole experience. Like I don't know how much flying. I'm actually going to be going over to newark, like we'll see how that works out and stuff. But I mean my real, my first thing here is I'm going over there just to like get rid of trips and then kind of flex and figure out, because it's summertime right now, I want to be here, like I want to be here golfing and doing that stuff. I don't, I don't need to be like running around and dicking with my schedule, you know, but anyways, man. So what else? Man? The other thing that's happened is the other day I was, you know, you were talking about Orlando I had an outrageous passenger. Really, yeah, man, I mean I'm going to tell you right now, just one.

Speaker 2:

This is one, I mean, you know, the sarcasm was in my voice, because we always have outrageous ones.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, so like Orlando's normally like that, you know, just vacation family, we got the, you know, we got the miracle flights, we got all that type of stuff. Right, yeah, exactly, but normally in Orlando we don't have outrageous passenger and outrageous passenger this is something that we're going to start bringing to you guys. We're going to describe some of the pastors. This dude comes on my flight.

Speaker 2:

I know what he looked like.

Speaker 1:

What did he look like you?

Speaker 2:

should see. Do you know, randy Macho man? Randy Savage yeah Okay. What Savage? Yeah Okay. Now a skinny black. Randy Savage crossed between Gene Simmons.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, gene Simmons, with the big old elevator boots, gene.

Speaker 2:

Simmons. And then what was his name? The aerobics guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh you're talking about. You just said it a minute ago, I know. Oh, come to us. Anyways, he, this dude, had like like a leotard top, okay, that was matching with his hot pants on, okay, and there was a gigantic yes, he had go-go platform boots on and the junk in the front was like bulging, so big, like nobody.

Speaker 1:

I don't care who you were, what sex you were or anything. This guy was like he wanted this attention and he walked on. He's like hello and he's like waving and he has these long pointy yellow fingernails and he had glasses on sunglasses and he had two long braids going all the way down to his butt that's what I love about our job.

Speaker 2:

It was people watching is the funniest, funniest thing right, it was just the most craziest.

Speaker 1:

Like you're like, this is your flying outfit.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I had a guy walk on with a tail coming out of his rear end. Oh no, a tail, a tail. I'm not kidding you, it was orange and white. He had a tail coming out?

Speaker 1:

Did he tell you who he was identifying as?

Speaker 2:

He told me that he identified as a fox. As a fox, yeah, I said you did, and he goes, yeah, and I said well, we don't allow those on the plane, that's right. He goes what?

Speaker 1:

and I said but foxes are not allowed on the box. We don't. There's this very specific list of animals that can come on the plane, and a fox isn't.

Speaker 2:

Fox is not one of them, no, but and I mean joking around, but seriously he didn't have a tail coming out of his backside and he was. He was grabbing this thing and curling around like he's going to go to sleep with this thing. I mean it was crazy. We get some of the craziest people had a woman in Vegas. They brought her down in a wheelchair. Sean had the biggest fake boobs I've ever seen, dude, they were huge. I think we talked about that. We did the big boobs I've ever seen, dude, they were huge.

Speaker 1:

I think we talked about that. We did.

Speaker 2:

It was crazy. I mean some of the crazy people that we've seen on the planes. I mean it's outrageous.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean we would love to post these pictures. We're not going to post this picture and stuff because that's not our intention to you know. But from our description you got a very good description of this, like very weird character and very pleasant, very didn't like didn't harm a flea on the flight, didn't actually cause anything, you know, no problems or anything like that. But there wasn't, there wasn't no one on that plane that was that was in visual contact with this guy. That wasn't like their eyes weren't really big.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's one of the best parts of this job, though, is actually people watching. Yeah, I mean you do. I mean you'll spend hours in a terminal, sometimes delayed, and all you do is you just watch people as they pass by and there's outrageous people, and they come on the planes every day too.

Speaker 1:

Maybe this should be called the freak in the seat episode. Like freak in the Freak in the Seat episode. Like Freak in the Seat, like the Jack in the Box.

Speaker 2:

He was a freak, anyways, but you know you were talking about an Orlando flight with the Make-A-Wish and the Wishes Can Happen program. Yeah, this past week I've been flying back and forth and I absolutely love those flights because we already we had a couple of families come on. And you know, a lot of times I said this so many times that you know you'll have bad days and then things you know it gets kind of tough. But then you see these families, they come on with these kids and they're so excited. I mean they're all they want to do. They want to come down, they want to go in the cockpit. That you know they want us to take some pictures and and they're going through so much in their lives and you're looking at them and they're having the best time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, those make a wish. Flights are so fun. I mean, like for the most part. I mean I've had the experience of you know you get the it's kind of like a 50-50 thing right. They're normally either they're terminal Right or they're the opposite, where they've just beat cancer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know things like that.

Speaker 1:

And they make wishes, granting them their you know the trip for congratulating them for beating cancer. It is a phenomenal organization, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

The Wishes can happen. It's a nonprofit organization. It's based in North Canton, ohio. It's dedicated to granting the wishes for children and young adults, ages from 3 to 21, who have been diagnosed with a life-threatening illness. Since its founding in 1982, the organization has fulfilled over 1,600 wishes Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah 1,600.

Speaker 2:

And we get to be part of these. I mean, I do this, I do Orlando all the time and just this. Like I said, this past week two families came on board and they had a brother and a sister in one, and then another family they had their whole family involved and it's so cool to get these pictures in the cockpit and they're so excited to do that, but it does. Let me tell you something Whenever you think that your life is not exactly what you want it to be, be really happy, be fortunate Because, let me tell you something, want it to be really happy. Be fortunate Because, let me tell you something every single day, the greatest thing that you have is the ability to get up and change whatever that is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, be blessed. I mean feel blessed. The impact that I know that we do on these families to, like you know, make this experience so special for them, and all this stuff, with all the different things that we do with them, is, uh, you know, it's a blessing that we get to get to see it. First of all, you know people, people are going through some crazy stuff and I just cannot imagine having my child and I don't have any kids but to have my child in a situation where you're you feel so, um, don't have the power to do anything. You know.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean it's. It's sad, yeah, Cause you don't have any control at all.

Speaker 1:

Right, but I mean, I mean, but most of the time when we see these families like it, it's, it's also uh, it's also a positive thing, where it's the reward after this battle that they've been through, or it's this thing they want to do before they leave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is. But talking about travel though, when you fly and you guys go on your vacations, do you go early? Go early, yeah, to the plane. I mean, do you go early to get to the airport?

Speaker 1:

Okay Now you're touching on a subject that's very dear to me that my wife overpacks like a sum of bitch. She's bringing body bag after body bag, like I mean these bags that you can't imagine, like you don't even understand. Like to see how many bags she brings for a trip. Like we're getting ready to go on this vacation right now. We will bring like she she will have, like we're going to be gone for 10 days. She'll have three large bags that are estimate estimate do you go early?

Speaker 1:

but we get there early because we got to take care of these bags. Like we get there so early because I gotta check these bags. I gotta drop her off. We gotta get these own you know done. I gotta go park the car. I gotta come back to the airport. We gotta get through security. Like I gotta get there early, there way.

Speaker 2:

Okay, do you always have extra time at the gate? Yeah, okay, I never understand this. I seen this the other day. Went into the airport and the security line every once in a while you walk in there, damn, security line is back up all the way through the terminal and I never understand this. And you see this all the time.

Speaker 2:

Families are just pissed because they're standing there and they're wondering if they're going to make their flight. And you guys listen, when you book these flights, sometimes you book them in a year in advance, sometimes six months, three months, whatever you do in your vacation, for God's sakes, get there early, just get there early, because you're going to start the whole vacation being pissed at each other. I mean, I see this every well, you know, probably every few days. When I walk in and you see these families, they're just completely pissed off because, okay, somebody has a bunch of bags, right, you got to check them. Or somebody forgot something, you had to go get it. Somebody was too slow leaving the house, didn't get up, didn't take a shower very fast, whatever it is, but that person is getting yelled at somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean the airlines are cracking down on this too. Like all of them, a lot of the airlines that are adjusting their check-in rules because it used to be like 30 minutes to be able to check a bag, to get it make it on the plane that you're flying on in order to get to. You know you're talking 30 minutes from the time at the front of the airport they're receiving the bag. Now they've got to get the bag from the front of the airport to the plane and you have to get through security and that's so ludicrous. So, like, a lot of the airlines are backing them now to 45 minutes, so it's a hard 45-minute cutoff. So, like, if you don't have your bags there checked in before 45 minutes, they're not letting you on a plane.

Speaker 2:

And make sure that you get the right stuff. Check with TSA before you pack that shit in your bag, because you're going to get mad if you get your cologne or something and they're going to confiscate your cologne and tell you to throw it away.

Speaker 2:

But, anyway, like I said, the biggest thing is when you see these families. They get so mad and your vacation is starting off all in the wrong way. So, like I said, just make sure that you get there early so you get through security and you're sitting at the gate. You know you're there 45 minutes to an hour before that plane leaves and everybody's relaxed. Relaxed and started off that way, because I see this every single day. There's people that are pissed off because there's a good chance now you're not going to make your flight.

Speaker 1:

Yeah but you know whose fault it is right, Dad's? No, it's ours. The flight attendants. Every time we get on board, they're mad at us, Like your company did this. They left without us. We hate. Like your company, did this blah blah blah, you know we hate you, like you don't even know me. Yeah, I'm big fun right here. Like don't come at me like that. Like people come on the plane all the time, like that at us and we're like really, Like the 10 people before you they've been dicks, but we're not.

Speaker 1:

But you know how many times we were standing at the door and some guy or woman the name of it is dicks.

Speaker 2:

But we're not. But you know how many times we were standing at the door and some guy or woman, the whole family runs up. They're all sweating. At the last minute. Right, you know, they're stuck in center seats, they're sweating, they can't breathe and they're trying to pack their shit in overhead bins.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm not sitting together. Can you help me why? You know I don't. And little Joey, he's sitting four rows from me. I have to sit by him.

Speaker 2:

Right All because you didn't want to get there early. And then you're stuck in a middle seat sweating for five hours.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, just plan accordingly. Plan accordingly, man. We tell you this all the time.

Speaker 2:

But you know, I just had to touch on it again because I see it all the time in the airport, Don't?

Speaker 1:

beat up on your flight attendants because of it, either the airport don't beat up on your flight attendants because of it either. Because I mean, if you're having a bad day, believe me most 99.9 percent of every flight attendant out there is going to be like ready to help you. We want to, like get you calmed down, get you a glass of water. You know you've been running to the gate. You know, we know tensions and emotions have been elevated and now you got to sit in a seat and you're pissed off at the company because you did some poor planning. You know, like, come on, man.

Speaker 2:

You're talking about helping flight attendants out. So I was flying with this girl, one of our friends, the other day and it was funny shit. You know who, she is Right and and so she was telling me she was like, she's like Gary. I went to the doctor about my heart and I said, yeah, well, what do you say? She goes. I was pissed and I said, well, why are you mad? And she goes. Well, he had sent me a report back to the house and she goes. I was reading the report and it said at the end of the report that I was grossly non-focal.

Speaker 2:

Grossly non-focal, grossly non-focal, grossly non-focal. And she was so mad. She was like you know that son of a bitch. He was sitting there basically telling me that I was asking too many damn questions and I wasn't, you know, wasn't listening to him, wasn't paying attention. So I was just playing along with it and I was like, really, and she goes, yeah, she goes. I was mad, she goes. I was mad, she goes.

Speaker 2:

I was sitting there reading this and I was like I was going to give me a piece of my mind and I said, well, you know what that means, don't you? And she goes no, what does that mean? And I said, well, that means you don't shut your ass up whenever you're sitting there trying to talk. And she goes see, that's why I said do you know what actually that means? And she goes it means that I was talking too much. And I said, no, grossly non-focal means when you come in, it's a medical term that when they do a neurological evaluation it's a quick neurological evaluation that the doctor says that he doesn't find that there's anything wrong. However, now you want to go back in and write this thing across your face that says you're grossly non-focal and prove that he wasn't right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's a dingbat fly tenant. That's what it is.

Speaker 2:

I love her man. Yeah, she's a dingbat fly tenant, that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

She's a little cray cray, like like half.

Speaker 2:

She could go back in and prove that her ass is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

He just said that you're a normal and now you're going to go prove that you're a nutball.

Speaker 1:

That's right, but that's, that's fly tenants, man, they get a little crazy about things, a little out of hand at certain times and take things out of context, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know what I told her to do. Sean what's?

Speaker 1:

that.

Speaker 2:

Download ChatGBT, because if your ass does not know what it is, chatgbt does Right, right, right.

Speaker 1:

You can ask them questions If you want somebody to talk to and they'll be able to answer some questions.

Speaker 2:

Or before you go in the doctor's office with the mask on. It says you're grossly non-focal, yeah yeah, there's also before chat, gpt.

Speaker 1:

Don't forget our buddy Google, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, google can help you out too. Google will know what you're talking about. Know what you're talking about. Hey, did you see that? Did you see that big ass tornado down in texas? No, huge, it was like 2.2 miles wide.

Speaker 1:

I think it's like the largest tornado um in in texas history dude, have you, have you ever, like, had an experience any personal tornado situations?

Speaker 2:

no, yeah I had a funnel cloud. Um, I got a picture actually of a funnel cloud. It was probably about three or four years ago, right in front of my house.

Speaker 1:

Right, I think I was taking pictures of the same funnel cloud from over, from like G lives about like as a crow flies about a couple miles right down the road, yep, and that funnel cloud came through past my house and it was like going towards G's house and I thought that thing is going to drop right down on G Like that.

Speaker 2:

It was like I was like that is in his neighborhood, right now and my ass was looking at it, but this tornado was freaking huge. It reminded me of that. Remember the movie Twister? Yeah, it was huge. I mean, I've seen pictures of this and I'm looking at this. And then I seen this other picture.

Speaker 1:

What's the other picture?

Speaker 2:

It said what not to do during a storm. Right, okay, this guy was. He had a lawn chair and he was sitting on top of his roof and they they took a picture of him watching the storm from the top of his roof.

Speaker 1:

He needed a good view. He wanted a front seat view of the.

Speaker 2:

Sean, he wanted to go to Oz.

Speaker 1:

I think he was trying to go to Oz, that's for sure, because I mean, that is not the place you go when you're here or feel, or see a tornado.

Speaker 2:

I was looking at that thing and I thought forget about the tornado. If you lean back, you're a damn tumbleweed. That's right, you're coming off that roof.

Speaker 1:

Dude Like yeah, yeah you, the roof is coming off, the house is coming with you, behind you, everything like he might have. You know he could. He might have been suicidal, who knows? Right, it was freaking crazy like I mean, why would you ever put yourself on top of a roof and there's a tornado that like within visual contact?

Speaker 2:

I just love that. Here it is. They're looking at this huge ass, tornadoes 2.2 miles wide, and some guy is like well, I want to first, I want to, I want a first class seat.

Speaker 1:

And he didn't even have like a camera or anything. He was just sitting up there watching. He was just sitting up there watching it.

Speaker 2:

Like what the fuck, are your your problem? Hey, let's take a picture of of eddie. As eddie goes freaking, flying away, could you imagine the next picture of him getting sucked up in?

Speaker 1:

some damn tornado dude man. I just see the dude like like floating through the air with lawn chair and he's like he's sitting there vaping smoking some weed. He's gotta be, but he's gotta be hot. The guy's got to be like something's wrong with him they got some dumb ass people.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we watch a lot of these stupid videos. You know we're going to do it Whenever we start and we actually start doing video. We got to start getting some of these videos on there Because they had this woman. She was doing one of those Zoom court camps, right, she was supposed to be in court, right? You know what she was doing, what she was making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 1:

Oh, she was taking the whole thing serious.

Speaker 2:

The judge is like stop. And she's like what? And he goes what are you doing? I'm making peanut butter and jelly sandwich On a Zoom, On a Zoom.

Speaker 1:

Dude. What was it? Was it Bebe's kids?

Speaker 2:

You remember Bebe's kids?

Speaker 1:

That's what it reminded me of this is like Bebe was like, I got to make some. I got to make peanut butter jelly. Yo, I got to get this kid off school too. Keep talking, I'm listening.

Speaker 2:

He started breaking this down, was looking there like you got a damn robe on. You know you got a t-shirt. He goes this is court. This is still court, even though it's Zoom and she's like she's holding the peanut butter and jelly. She's like, okay, it's fine, I got a t-shirt on. He was like, okay, turn around, click, just clicked her off.

Speaker 1:

Wow, yeah, come on.

Speaker 2:

You got to love it. I mean, you have to love these videos. But hey, listen, we got to talk about a little airline stuff and unfortunately it's not anything that we normally like to talk about. Yeah, and it just happened yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was that 787 Dreamliner crashed in India. Yeah, that is like horrific man. That was. That is like horrific man.

Speaker 2:

That's one of the things. One of the things I know we we cover it and um and we talk about it, but that's one of those things we airline people don't like talking about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know what I mean. Here's my like. This is my, uh, my view of the whole thing. I, my view of the whole thing. I'm getting ready to transfer to Newark and I'm getting ready to fly that plane. That's the plane that I was like. I'm sitting there going through my schedule trying to like, hey, I want to go fly the Dreamliner. It's a fantastic plane.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if anybody, if you don't know what a Dreamliner is 787, I mean it has like systems on a plane where they've got humidification systems in the planes, got windows that you touch and then they go electronically dark and stuff. I mean they got some cool stuff. I mean the dreamliner is a really nice, very comfortable for passengers and crew to uh fly on. And this is the first major accident of this airline and or this airplane and, uh, it's going to be very interesting to find out what happened this thing, because I was like looking at the video of somebody actually got the video of it crashing. There's always a camera everywhere, so it's already on the news and all I could think of is one. It looked like it had lift problems.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, I mean, it literally looked like the bottom fell out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when you figure out like okay, what causes a plane of this size to not have lift, you know you start thinking about like like airspeed Is there? Did they have enough airspeed? Did they have their the weight and balance right before they took off? Like maybe it was just too dang heavy, right? You know like there's all kinds of crazy stuff.

Speaker 2:

I mean all that comes out and you're absolutely right, and that's what I was looking at too. I mean from flying, you know, when it's heavy and it's not lifting, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I would never want to be in that situation where we're taking off and the plane's just not getting up in the air.

Speaker 2:

We get asked a lot of. We don't want to speculate on that. I mean prayers go out to the family everybody that's involved. But you know the one thing that a lot of people ask us. They ask us you know about accidents and incidents and when do things happen right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean they're always like wanting our opinion about you know, what do you think happened here or what you know. I mean, obviously they want to talk to pilots first. You know, what do you think happened here or what you know? I mean, obviously they want to talk to pilots first, you know. But I mean the flight crew, the flight attendants, stuff, we, we get a lot of people asking us well, you know what do, what do we think about this and stuff. Because I mean we've seen a lot of shit, right, I mean we've been around 30 and I'm 35 and you're 38 and we're like. We're like we're. We, we got experience.

Speaker 2:

No, and these stats are true. I mean you're looking at 53 percent of um. These incidents happen during landing. Yeah, okay, 53 of them and 8.5 percent during takeoff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know like, I mean the most critical point of, uh um, of flight is that takeoff and landing right. And I mean that's why you're getting your briefing, that's why you know we take this so serious. Like the flight attendants aren't up in the aisles during takeoff and landing, I mean because that's the critical state of flight. Once you get up and cruising, you know, then we have time to you know business.

Speaker 2:

Right and exactly what Sean was saying. And the reason why is exactly with this Dreamliner is the reason for takeoff is you have very limited time to react.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean, when you see this, if you watch this video, you're going to see the distance from the ground to the aircraft and you can see that there's not a lot of time. And that's why they say one of the most critical is the takeoff, because if something does go wrong, you don't have a lot of time to correct it.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, you know, like that's how bad like turbulence too is, so dangerous too, like turbulence down the lower you are and more turbulent, you know, if you have, you know, like microbursts and things like that that happen, turbulence, I mean it can be very dangerous. And so you know, we're trying not trying to speculate on what what happened with this flight and all that stuff, what, what can you know? We don't know, everybody, it's still, it's still out for investigation and stuff. But our hearts go out to all that were involved and all that's been affected by this and all the families. And we did just hear that one person survived right.

Speaker 2:

One did survive. So one person. I guess the plane was on fire and this person had jumped out and I mean that's a miracle. I mean how that? I mean you know, just that story alone is going to be amazing, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean those, those, those type of accidents and stuff you'd like. It blows my mind when I hear about people walking away from them. It reminds me of like the Sioux City incident with the plane you know cartwheeling down the runway.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

That video and you know cartwheeling down the runway that video and people walked away from that.

Speaker 2:

Still strapped to their seats? Yeah, it's like wow.

Speaker 2:

In the field. They were in the field actually. You know, when we talk about things like that, even this guy that survived this for the rest of your life, I would be like why? I mean, you'd have to ask yourself how did you survive when everybody else died, and that's the amazing part. But you know, he was blessed and you can't say any more than that. And the rest of the people? Like I said, prayers go out to each and every one of them. But this comes back to what we do. I mean, you know people ask us all the time we're not just there to. It's not just about serving Cokes and snacks and stuff like that Our job. It's dangerous to take off and land. That's what we tell people all the time. Pay attention, get your headphones off, you know, for takeoff and landing especially because those are two of the most critical phases of flight Just take them off, take them off for a minute and just pay attention to what's going on, because that part of it could save your life.

Speaker 1:

You know people. I think you also need to like be a little bit more situationally aware. You know like you need to have the ability to like the people that are around you, too matter.

Speaker 1:

Like I mean where you're seated at and where you're. You know where your exit is and how you're going to get there if something happens. Not that you want to focus and you know or hyper focus on this whole thing, but it's a good review to be able to like to say, hey, you know how am I getting off this plane if something happens or can I help somebody?

Speaker 1:

yes, or how, or who may have to. I have to help, or who should I? You, or who may have to get out of the way? You know like there's all kinds of things that happen.

Speaker 2:

You know, before we get out of here too, let's jump and talk about the turbulence real quick. I don't want to. I mean, you know, like I was saying before, with airlines, I don't like talking about a lot with incidents and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

You know what, Like, I just had this lady on the board the other day in Orlando flight and she was like you know is it going to be turbulent?

Speaker 2:

And I was like yes it's going to be turbulent.

Speaker 1:

You know, I just got pre-fitted pilot and it's going to be turbulent and she was like really bad, or you know, like she was like really freaking out, that I responded that way and I was like I'm being honest with her. But at the same time, you know it's all about education people. You need to have understanding of all these different types of turbulence that are out there. And I will tell you, as a flight attendant for many years, like it's kind of like driving your car, like all the different types of turbulence. We could tell you what we're uh, how we're getting affected and what it is that's being affecting us, because we've been doing this for so long, and where we're at like dictates those types of turbulence and and, gee, tell like, give us some of like the list of, uh, different types of turbulence that are out there the number one.

Speaker 2:

Uh, turbulence is clear air turbulence. When we talk about that one, that one's bad.

Speaker 1:

This is the most lethal. So every time you hear like these airlines, like oh, they've diverted here to go here, they diverted all it's because clear air turbulence no one can see it. You can't see it, you don't uh, then you can't predict it. You don't know when it's happened split second for whatever reason, and there's a million different reasons why that turbulence is there in that spot at that time, but you can't see it and you can't predict it. And so that's when people are flying through the cabin and hitting their heads in the ceiling and we're doing those sudden drops and you know the zero G's are happening. You know like that's dangerous.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you and in clear air turbulence, cause I've been in it it's probably anywhere from 12 to 15 seconds of the worst time of your life. Yeah, and it's fast, and exactly what Sean was saying. That's why we always tell you keep your seatbelt on. Trust me, keep your seatbelt on when you're sitting down, even if it's loose. Keep it on because if that happens, anything that's not strapped down is going up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, everything that's, nothing that's strapped down, is going to be flying in the air. So just remember that. I mean it doesn't matter what you have your cell phones, your laptops, your CD players, your headphones, it doesn't matter what it is, Everything's your bags. Everything's going to fly in the air.

Speaker 2:

Right. The next one is thermal turbulence Sean Thermal turbulence yeah. Yeah, it's on hot days. Usually it's close to the ground.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so the heat off the end, that's the dangerous, like on landing. So like you can get these like the, especially on hotter days and stuff like that, where you get those heat waves coming up from the ground, the ground's super hot, and you get that especially like in, you know, like from the, you know buildings and all that, the tarmacs and the roads and stuff like that. Depending on where it's at, that heat's rising. You know. You know when you step on a freaking road how hot it is, you know, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And the other. The other one is mechanical Mechanical turbulence.

Speaker 1:

Mechanical turbulence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's when your mountains and your buildings and your trees, yeah, anytime the wind's flowing around over the mountains, through areas around terrain, man-made structures, you could experience what's called mechanical turbulence.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that comes in that. So that's very. You get those type of turbulence when you approach the city.

Speaker 1:

So again right back to the you know takeoff and landing the mechanical turbulence can be, uh, something that is affecting, uh, your flight, but there's also a mountain wave. Denver is a good place where you're getting a lot of mountain wave activity. So the thermal winds and stuff that are coming off the mountains you're getting them like further out on the planes and stuff. You get all this like mountain wave activity and stuff like that of turbulence. So, uh, there's that, there's that, and then there's wake and turbid, wake turbulence, right, right, which is caused by other aircraft usually if you're, if you're traveling behind um like a larger plane yeah.

Speaker 1:

So like like we're following, like a smaller plane is following a larger plane, and you get too close to that. The convective spinning, you know, the wind coming off the wings gets those vortices coming, and if we hit in that vortice where it's like still too strong and we're too close to it, that's when you get that really like the plane starts spinning. Yeah, yeah, so like a roll right or left or one way or another.

Speaker 2:

That's definitely you know that was down in Denver right.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that can be anywhere.

Speaker 2:

I mean that one incident was Denver that caused it was wake turbulence.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, wake turbulence caused it. Yeah, and the last one is was Denver that caused it. Was wake turbulence, yeah, wake turbulence caused it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the last one is frontal turbulence.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, frontal turbulence.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, I mean that's with a change in the air mass properties and the temperature. It's usually from the precipitation of thunderstorms and squalls of you know weather fronts basically, but there's so many different types of turbulence. I mean we talk about those, but the biggest thing from this is keep your seatbelt on and then just pay attention, especially in takeoff and landing, because it could be the difference of your life if we're in an emergency situation. Yeah, but anyway, let's wrap it up man, let's wrap it up. Hey, listen.

Speaker 1:

What's your quote of the day here?

Speaker 2:

We had to leave it. On a little bit of a funnier note. The man who says his wife can't take a joke forgets that she took him. Did I just say that?

Speaker 1:

we're a joke.

Speaker 2:

What's that? I just said we're a joke.

Speaker 1:

We're a joke.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, guys, listen, you know again, the incident with the India flight just happened. So you know we just prayers go out to those families.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, prayers, we hope everybody. You know it's going to be hard to get through all this stuff, but we're going to find out what happened with that plane and hopefully deal with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you guys take care and we will see you back next week, hopefully with a lot more fun news on cabin pressure.

Speaker 1:

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