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When Grammar Police Attack: We're Not Perfect, But Our Stories Are Real

Shawn & G Episode 45

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Ever been corrected by someone only to wonder if they genuinely wanted to help or just make themselves feel superior? This raw, unfiltered conversation between flight attendants Shawn and G explores this universal experience through the lens of aviation culture.

When a listener pointed out G's tendency to say "me and you" instead of "you and I," it sparked a powerful conversation about authenticity versus polish. The hosts dive deep into how such seemingly minor corrections can trigger childhood feelings of inadequacy—especially for those who grew up facing educational, social, or racial challenges. Their candid reflections reveal that sometimes the grammar police aren't offering constructive feedback but instead reinforcing arbitrary rules that diminish authentic voices.

Between heartfelt moments, the episode delivers practical travel wisdom. Learn why you should pack substantial snacks (airport sandwiches now cost $20+!), which foods travel well, and how to survive the chaos when weather diverts flights and strands passengers. The hosts' survival guide for airport meltdowns comes from decades of experience navigating the unpredictable world of aviation.

Humor lightens the mood throughout as Shawn and G share passenger behaviors that drive flight attendants crazy—from wearing headphones during safety demonstrations to the dreaded finger-snapping summons. Their "blue surfboard" derby car story perfectly illustrates how substance often triumphs over style, much like their podcast philosophy.

Whether you're planning your next flight or simply appreciate genuine conversation without pretense, this episode reminds us that perfect grammar matters far less than authentic connection. Subscribe now and join a community that values real stories told in real voices.

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Speaker 1:

When someone says something to correct you, did they do it to make you feel better or are they just picking someone apart? What are some of the best foods to travel with on a plane? How to survive a meltdown in aviation travel All this next, on Cabin Pressure, with Sean and G.

Speaker 2:

Hey, everyone, welcome. This is Cabin Pressure. It's a bird. It's a bird, it's a plane.

Speaker 1:

No, it's Johnny, I'm here ready to talk and fight on the forces of flight attendant perspective.

Speaker 2:

What's going on? Happy Gilmore man, your golf tournament. What happened?

Speaker 1:

Dude, I had like a great weekend. It was like this turned off, Like I had this big golf tournament this week and I decided the night before there was this like that concert thing, the music that we like to go to down the road here Mabel's Side.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Mabel's Side was happening and it was a motorhead and I said you know I'm gonna go over to motorhead, so a bunch of friends and stuff they're like going, let's do, let's do this. And literally I got in my car. Then this is the night before this big tournament and I drove down and I got to the middle of town here and I said what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 2:

and I just had this like a reality.

Speaker 1:

I'm like why, dude, this is not a good idea. This is a big money tournament. I need to get my ass home, get some sleep, get ready for a tournament, right, and dude, it all paid off. It was awesome. I mean, I had a my tournament. Um, it was a two-day tournament. Um, we won our flight. We won first place overall the entire tournament the first day. Second day, we uh won our flight. Then we uh, we got, I think, fifth overall in the second day, but we won second place overall for the entire tournament, damn. And then we got into the shootout and the shootout's just like this Each further you go in the shootout, the more money you make, and we got pretty far in everything. So we were real happy with everything that happened. So it was good.

Speaker 2:

You didn't buy lunch. I didn't see you buy lunch.

Speaker 1:

No, dude, I'm not buying you lunch.

Speaker 2:

Shit. You made all that money, you didn't buy lunch.

Speaker 1:

Dude, you're, you're so tight you need to be buying me lunch. What?

Speaker 2:

are you?

Speaker 1:

talking about, I spend my damn money.

Speaker 2:

The funny, the funny thing that you were talking about, that all I could think about all all they were showing was the the, the new happy Gilmore movie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, tournament. He was like taught we were talking about happy gilmore and all that stuff and the uh. He was like, yeah, my um, I don't know somebody in his family would ever bought his daughter a, uh, happy gilmore putter. Right, they make these putters right now that are for the hockey stick. It looks like a hockey stick the putter does. It's pretty cool, but they're expensive. They're super expensive and I've seen them all over the place but it was like upwards of ten thousand dollars for the stupid butter. Like I don't know who would pay ten thousand dollars for a putter. Was it signed? I don't know, dude, I'm just like I it had to be signed.

Speaker 2:

Shit for that much, that much money, it's gotta be signed yeah, it's gotta be signed or something like that.

Speaker 1:

But I mean cool, I gotta tell you the motorhead, you didn't miss anything no, no, oh see that my reports were like okay, so you don't like that music, right?

Speaker 2:

No, it's not that. All the reports that you're hearing the same ones that I heard last time inside, like when they played inside the bars, they were like they were really good and I was like, well, you guys are drunk. Well, that's the point of that place, right yeah but you're drunk though, because I'm sitting right in front. You've seen where I was sitting last time. I'm sitting right down in front. If you're good, I'm staying there. Right, but Motorhead halfway through it, I'm down there going. Yeah, they're not good.

Speaker 1:

They're not good. See, I hear people that are like, oh yeah, they're great, but I and it's like sing-along music, you know, like everybody likes a sing-along dance.

Speaker 2:

We're past the middle-age part to where we just enjoy to get your ass out every once in a while, right? So when you're out there and you're drinking which you know shit they all do that. So they're out in lawn chairs, they're drinking and they're eating. They're having a good time regardless. And Motorhead, yeah, they're not that good. You didn't miss anything.

Speaker 1:

You know what you missed at the last time we went up there. You're talking about the lawn chairs and all this stuff. So we were on the side of the hill there. This place is like set up on an overlooking a valley, looking west, and you get these beautiful sunsets at night and concerts right there, the bands right in the, the sunset it's awesome. But the hill, you know, there's so many people. You can get on the side hill and I put my chair on the side hill. I was drinking a little bit and I dude, I fucking rolled right down that hill. My chair tipped over. I couldn't even stop myself. I was like tumbling and I tumbled into like five people like they were like what just happened?

Speaker 2:

well, there was this lady that was in front of us that she had one of those rocker chairs, yeah, and the whole time that I was looking, because you know it's angled down yeah and and I I was looking at her going that that's going to be the most miserable chair to be in for the next few hours. She switched with her husband right next to her and he was like, yeah, this sucked. So he, he got the shitty chair and she got the good one.

Speaker 1:

And also what I didn't tell you was we brought our chairs popping up right and we did like a little tailgate beforehand and our chair was like I've had these things for like 20-25 years, right, I sit in this chair and the damn thing collapsed like I broke the fucking chair and carol's, like we didn't bring any extra chairs and I'm like, no, I'm like this is ridiculous, like literally, like the plastic in the chair, the connectors to the you know this fold up chairs, it like just like gotten hard and just crumbled did.

Speaker 2:

Did you have that feel good moment?

Speaker 1:

And I was like yeah the feel good, I'm a fat ass moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in front of all my friends.

Speaker 1:

It was great, it was a special feeling.

Speaker 2:

I would have loved to have seen that one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's some funny things that happen. So what else? What else happened with you?

Speaker 2:

Man quite a bit. So this week I was going to the airport and the funny thing about it, I walked into the airport and it was like it was taken over by the Cub Scouts.

Speaker 1:

I've been in an airport where you've got like 50 troops of Cub Scouts. Exactly Every time I think of the Cub Scouts I always think of like what's that movie Up, whatever? Oh, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the little kid, yeah because you got those little shorts on with the little shirt and everything. Yeah, it was completely taken over the whole airport area. Out front they had all their bags, so you knew that they were going on like an outing. They do these outings where they fly somewhere and they go out. But man, did that take me back because years ago I was forced and I'm telling you forced to go into the Cub Scouts with my son Jackson.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, I'm so glad I never had to do that experience, forced, forced.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So you know you have to go to these meetings and then when you're going to the meetings you're in the back because they have to do certain things to earn these little like badge clips, things for their belt and shit like that. So you know, I'm back there with a couple of the other dads and they're pretty funny. So me and these other guys didn't want to be there either. So we're like razzing each other the whole time and we constantly get in trouble. We were like the bad kids in class. We got in trouble by the scout master you know what I mean and they were like oh, you guys got to keep it down. We're like whatever.

Speaker 1:

We don't get here in the first place.

Speaker 2:

But these guys, they're doing all their stuff. But some of the funny things I had to tell you about this one, okay, you know that they do this thing.

Speaker 1:

It's called the derby, the derby, yeah, oh, when they make their little race cars and stuff like that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So they give them a block of wood and they give you the wheels, some pins, some weights Everybody gets the same thing Materials, right, yeah, so what you have to do is that you have to create this car, and this whole time I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I mean, you know it's going on. It's weeks and weeks. And you know Deb's brother, danny, yeah Right, he's doing all this work on this car. So he's making this car unbelievable like um Derby car. It looks like something that goes out on the racetrack. Sure, he's whittling this thing down. He's shaving it down. He's doing all the need. Meanwhile, mine is a block of wood, still Okay, and, and she's like you got to do something with this, he's got to do the Derby and I'm like I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1:

It's funny because they're like. It's funny Like your wife saying Like it's funny, like your wife's saying you got to do it. Like this is the Cub Scout. Stuff becomes your, you're the Cub Scout.

Speaker 2:

And I got stuck in it. It wasn't like I signed him up for it, like I just you got to go.

Speaker 1:

Jackson should have been doing the freaking whittling Right, like he's the person that should have been like working on this car, not you.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's the same thing as danny, but that you know that ain't right.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, he's designing this whole car, he's got actually sean, he had actual working lights on it. Oh, believe me. So so we go in, you have to go, you have to go into this.

Speaker 2:

Um, but I thought it was only like limited to the materials, you only can use those specific materials it is, but he had, he had added these two little light things because they they could have to do it for their weight and balance and then they have to do it for show they have ones for the show oh gotcha, okay.

Speaker 2:

So he does it. He's looking for the show, so he's looking for the best-looking one. So we go in and they weight these things and they do all that. And Danny comes in with this prize trophy car and I mean literally it looks like a stock car. And so Jackson comes in. You know what Jackson's was? A square brick with wheels.

Speaker 2:

He looked like somebody just took his favorite toy away from him and he had his head down walking in and I'm like why do you got your head down? He goes Dad, it looks stupid. It's called the blue surfboard, the blue surfboard. And what this was is that I had to cut this thing down. And then I had some blue spray paint that I had and I spray painted that damn thing with the blue spray paint, put the wheels on it and everything. So he walks in and they're like hey, you know what? What's, what's this? What is this? And he goes it's a blue surfboard. And they're like what Blue surfboard? And he just looked at me and he's got this look on his face. Danny's over there and everybody's looking at him. He comes over and looks oh man, that's a stock car. It lights everything. Yeah, really cool. So the first thing that they do is that they, they go and they, they say which one has bestest show, and you know who got that yeah, danny so he's over there, stand, they're taking pictures of that.

Speaker 2:

Jackson's over there with his head down. I mean it's horrible, deb. She's looking at me like you know I'm the worst dad in the whole freaking world and so you know he's like I just want to go home. I don't even want to put it up on the track because they've got to race next Right Now. They've got to race it. They've got to go put this thing and they race this thing. He walks up there reluctantly. He doesn't want to go up there, right, he sits this thing up and he's like stupid thing, the whole thing. He's saying this a he didn't have an overall enjoyable experience. Oh, it's horrible, it's horrible. So he gets up there and he puts this thing up there and and, um, you know he he's in the first race and he puts it up there and deb's like the we need to just go home. And I was like just wait till it goes. I mean, yeah, he's like I'm gonna lose some and there's no way, and then all of a sudden they release it.

Speaker 2:

Jackson's takes off like a bat of hell out of hell, man this thing goes down there, sean. It kicks the shit out of everybody's really. Now he's sitting there looking at it and all of a sudden he went from the being this big downer to like oh hell yeah, this kid, yeah, like blue surfboard brand blue surfboard.

Speaker 1:

Now right, so he's ready to print shirts pass out flags.

Speaker 2:

He goes through this thing. So, anyway, he takes second place in this thing. That's awesome, and so the funny part about it is is danny goes well, how in the hell did you do that? And I said, well, you was doing that. I was looking online at one of the national winners and how he he actually designed his uh, his car right and he was an engineer yeah so I just did it exactly the way he did. It put it on there right, they didn't they.

Speaker 1:

They didn't know what was coming.

Speaker 1:

That one that shit didn't look pretty, but it won. Yeah, it did right. This reminds me of you know, you're talking about scouts and all that stuff my, my brother-in-law, when his daughter was young, you know, indian princesses. Have you ever heard of that group? No, there's like a young girls like they have this Indian princess group and all that stuff and they go like it's kind of like a Boy Scout thing, it's just not as big. But they had this Indian princess group and one of the things is that like he was reluctantly has to go with his daughter because it was kind of like a daughter-father thing, right, and he had to go to this like sleepover thing and all that stuff. And he had to go to this sleepover thing and all this stuff. So they had to give the fathers Indian names and so his name was Caged Animal. Caged Animal yeah, that's what he was Just remind me of this whole Dude listen.

Speaker 2:

There's one more, though. I got to tell you that happened with this show. I mean, before we go on to the next thing. Okay, so I was doing a double red. I was doing this all-nighter so you had to leave from Cleveland LA back. Okay, he had one of those outings that you had to go to, so I had to do red. I came back in. I was late. Loser dad I'm in the loser dad at this point. Right, somebody else had to take him to the outing. Why? Because I was late. Okay, so they had to take him out to the Boy Scout camp and everything.

Speaker 2:

So, can I go home, go to sleep? No, I got to run to the Boy Scout camp. Now it's like 45, 50 minutes away, driving like a bat out of hell again to get to this thing. So I, I get there. I'm like okay, where's this troop at? And they said they're at the archery range. Okay. And I said, okay, where's the archery range? And they said on the other side of the camp. I was like okay, can I drive there? And they're like no, I'm like how am I supposed to get there? They said follow that path.

Speaker 2:

This is all the way on the other side. Now it's hot, I mean it's now. I come up on this whole group and they're at this archery range. Now this thing was. It was closed in with these little ropes, right Sticks. Nobody knew I was back there. I was like this is perfect, I'm gonna sneak in the back, nobody's going to know, I'm just going to slide right in the back of this thing. Right now there's this one sergeant at arms guy at this little loop door thing and it's at entrance of the archery range. So I walk over and I step over that loop. Biggest mistake I made in my life, sean. What happened you have?

Speaker 1:

entered the archery range without asking permission.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, I turned around, I was like what this is like.

Speaker 1:

Military Joe at the gate right.

Speaker 2:

Everybody and their mother turned around and they were all staring at me.

Speaker 1:

Now you know how I'm looking at this dude and Jackson's over in the room just like dipping his head. He put his head down again. Right, that's my dad. There's my dad, right.

Speaker 2:

And I'm looking at this guy and I'm standing there, he's in his little shorts and his shirt and I'm looking at him like dude. If there wasn't so many witnesses right now, I would go get that extra bow and arrow and shoot you like a Thanksgiving turkey. That's right, brother, I'm telling you. Man, I was looking at him and I was like and he goes, you need to leave the archery range and ask for permission. So I stepped back over that damn loop, sean, and I looked at him and I said may I enter the archery range? You can enter the archery range. I'm like son of a. So I stepped in there and the first thing this one guy said right, his name was Brian. He said Gary, do not kill him, right.

Speaker 1:

Exactly Like I'm going to get in this archery and I'm shoot this motherfucking dad.

Speaker 2:

So that was the end of my Cub Scouting. Oh, geez, right there, I'm just telling you. But Cub Scouts, yeah, it's a good organization. It just wasn't for me.

Speaker 1:

It's good man for these young boys to get out there and experience and understand, and you know we all need more male guidance in this world, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you do. I mean, it is a great organization, like I said, it just wasn't for me, and I have a bunch of funny stories that go with that. But I'll give you those two right now. Maybe a few other later. Right, we got a few other things to talk about today.

Speaker 1:

We do, and skunk, weed, skunk, weed. Dude, I can't stand it.

Speaker 1:

Can't stand it. Can't stand that crap man. I can't stand the smell like the. It's like it's weed. I was talking to somebody the other day about this whole thing because, like I grew up in california, weed was everywhere, right, I mean, uh, I'm a 60s child, uh, like weed when smoking weed was it never smelled like this back then? No, okay, it's like changed over time and it's turned into this very skunky smell. That like like when I'm out driving and stuff and I do the uber e thing and stuff, like I go in apartment buildings or anything like that. It's like you could just smell it everywhere. It's like it permeates it. Or like you get the passengers on the plane that they've been smoking and then they come on and they, I don't know, it's just like a smoker, like any other smoker, right, they don't realize they stink.

Speaker 2:

No, I was laying over at the Galleria downtown in Houston. I got out of the van and, sean, I was like what the man? That shit smells, what the hell is that? And I turn around and there's these two people over in the sitting area at the entrance of the hotel smoking weed and I'm like that freaking stinks, man. And and the the van drivers like this is where they, they sit and they smoke that and I'm like man people realize this, okay, when you smoke weed, you stink your breast, stinks your air, stinks your clothes the clothes stink, the car stinks, everything stinks and you make everybody suffer for that nasty ass.

Speaker 2:

Skunk weed smell. Can't stand that. Yeah, cannot stand that I mean it was just nasty.

Speaker 1:

That to me, is just exactly like the uh, uh, just cigarette smoke period. I mean those two hand in hand like I just I'm not a smoker period, so it's like I just can't stand the smell of it. And then when it permeates off people like you get I don't care if they get, you know they smoke a weed, they smoke a cigarettes. Uh.

Speaker 2:

I walk into the airport and you know, you know that that people working on the airport are smoking it because it's down, it's down in the uh, down in the airport area.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, or you're walking down to concourse and you can. It's just like waving, you know.

Speaker 2:

like you know, you're following walking behind somebody that smoking weed so if you smoke weed, just realize this you stink I'm straight, you do you stink man I mean you do, even if you don't think that you do, you stink, and trust me, you do. But hey, listen, I had to tell you too you know this family came on, okay how many kids you think they had um, I don't know four eight, eight kids, eight, freaking, kids, eight.

Speaker 1:

Wow, dude that is first of all. I mean I don't have any kids, so I don't, I can't, I can't. I can only talk to you from outside, looking in perspective here, but eight kids I would go freaking insane.

Speaker 2:

Eight is not enough. Eight is way too damn many.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, way too many.

Speaker 2:

You should meet. It was not the Brady.

Speaker 1:

Bunch either.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't Greg, jan, cindy and Marsha for sure.

Speaker 1:

Now, you know, it's funny that you say this I've had those families where they take, you know they take up, you know, a whole row, that's like six on our narrow body aircraft and, uh, you know, or they'll have, like I had one family that literally was 12 people, right, you know kids, and so 10 kids, one, two adults. And those type of families like when I see them a lot of times it's like the family's working together, like everybody, from the littlest one all the way to the big one, have jobs to take care of each other. You know, like it's like everybody's got to be taking care of each other in order for it to happen, because it's just out of control. And it sounds like this family wasn't like that.

Speaker 2:

No, that you're thinking years ago, man. That's how my mom was, because we have five kids. Okay, we had five, but my mom had it under control. There was no control here. I mean, this was absolutely crazy. But what really killed me was that he came back and he was talking to me and he goes. Can I ask you a question? I said sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the father.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and he said can I ask a question? He said why don't you guys do anything special for families? And I said well, what do you mean? He goes? Well, we bought eight tickets. And I said okay, well, what kind of tickets did you buy? And he said the economy tickets. He said because I wasn't going to spend $100 for the economy plus so we could all sit together. And I said, well, okay, but that's kind of your fault. And he said yeah, but he, he goes. You should just move people around, let the family sit together. Yeah, and I'm like that's not how it works here that's kind of like.

Speaker 1:

Like that whole point right there, that that whole perspective to me is like that guy that comes on that seven foot that's sitting in economy yeah, and you're like are you stupid?

Speaker 2:

you had those legs. When you like, yeah you.

Speaker 1:

You've been seven foot for a long time. Yeah, yeah, you know you're not going to fit in these seats, right, you know, like you think we need to move you, no, you need to buy the appropriate ticket. Like we don't need to solve your problem and you don't need to like get away with it without paying, type of thing. But I mean, that's life, like you got to go through it in your own way. But it's like, come on.

Speaker 2:

But the airline. I mean even with these guys, the airline, not us, but the airline. The gate agents got three together, three together, and then two of them had to sit separate. That's a miracle in itself on a full plane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2:

But they always act like, when they purchase these tickets, when there's a bunch of seats open and, as you know, there's not many seats open anymore.

Speaker 1:

And if they do travel like I don't know if it's like a first time for this family to travel, but it's like if it's a first time, okay, I'm going to give them a little slack here. But if it's not their first time traveling, like they're used to going places, have to sip separate, you know, that's just they're too big of a group, right?

Speaker 2:

so I mean that's that's just, that's just craziness, but anyway, yeah, it was like I said, eight was way too damn many for these guys. That's for sure right. But you know something, I had to tell you something. You know, last week, whenever we got done with our podcast, yeah, when we walked outside, you had told me, uh, something that kind of triggered something in me and I was like we got to discuss this one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was talking to you about some feedback. The feedback was they were wanting me to tell you that you, like you always say me, and you Right.

Speaker 2:

My grammar.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they were commenting on grammar. And this is not the first time like somebody from the show was like there's been other people like have commented about grammar on the show and stuff. But honestly, you know, I do all the editing to our show and you know, at first, when I first started, when we first started a podcast, I thought, okay, you know I should think about this and do this, and it's up. And then the the more I thought about it, the more I was like you know what? This is a real show?

Speaker 1:

this is me and you this is you and you, you know, I'm saying like this is how we talk and, however it comes out, um, the intentions are like this atmosphere that we're in right now. This is a place of like reality, like we're talking to you from, for real, from our heart and you know, giving you the real stuff here. We're not in a classroom teaching grammar, right, right, this isn't. This isn't where we're. The, the, the platform.

Speaker 2:

So this is one of those things. Normally I just brush it off. But you know, I had to go back and I had to reflect for a moment. So I started thinking. I said at first, why did I do this podcast in the first place? It wasn't to be perfect, but shit, I'm not perfect, by no means. It wasn't to sound polished like some broadcast news anchor, because that shit definitely isn't me. It was to be real. It was to be the person that I am and hopefully I was going to connect with people that they were going to see exactly what goes on in our lives in the galley and what we talk about on airplanes, and sometimes it's just about life itself.

Speaker 2:

Then I asked myself, well, why do they pick me apart?

Speaker 2:

Why don't they just enjoy listening to it?

Speaker 2:

Why do they just wait to catch a mistake? Or they just didn't want to lean in to hear the story? And the truth is, it brought me back all the way back to when I was a kid, when I'd say something and someone would correct me, not just the words but the way I said it. And, man, that used to bother me a lot. It made me feel a little bit small. You ever felt like that, a little bit small, like I had to earn the right to speak Somehow. I wasn't good enough, I wasn't perfect. But you know, then you start to grow kind of toughen up and you learn I don't give a shit what these people think At least that's what we tell ourselves that we don't care.

Speaker 2:

But sometimes something little like grammar correction it gets under your skin, not just because of the words, because of what it represents. So here's what I've come to. Why do people do that? Maybe they want to feel smart. Maybe they've been taught to follow the rules so closely that they can't see beyond that. Maybe it's just a pet peeve, or maybe it's just correcting others, giving them a false sense of power that they don't feel anywhere else in their own life. And sure, maybe, just maybe, they think they're helping. But if you're listening and you've ever been corrected in a way that makes you feel less, know this your voice is valid, your story it's worthy and nobody has the right to make you feel small for sharing it. So, the person who corrected me I'm not mad at you, in fact, thank you, because this small moment made me check back in with my purpose. It reminded me why I do this podcast. It reminded me to give people space to be human.

Speaker 1:

That's right, man. I mean, you know we get corrected about stuff as we are growing and coming up as a child and stuff. But it also made me reflect about something too, like in my life when I was a kid, I, um, I just you know I had this. I had this experience where it was a, I always got corrected and I always felt like the dumb kid in the class and, um, I, you know, coming from, I'm going to tell you there there's some social aspects here that people may not, may not know about a show. Like I grew up in a family of a mixed race kid. You know my mother's white, my dad's black and the dynamics of that as a child are, you know, there's a lot of navigation going through there and you need to and you're just trying to be a kid and fit in and you need to and you're just trying to be a kid and fit in, but to put this thing of like, you're like inferior and you don't, you don't have, you know, you don't have proper grammar and all this stuff. It made me reflect back Like I remember when I was young I got, I had to go for about a year to this doctor.

Speaker 1:

That was a psychologist that was like analyzing me, as being like there was something wrong with me. And I'm telling you, like that year was like one of the longest year of my kid being a kid, because I was always worried about like you know what's wrong with me? Why? Why don't they fit in? You know like what, what's happening? Why do I have to go to this place? And then the other kids were there. They had like I could clearly see that these kids that were here with me had like lots of problems and stuff. But it really got to you like I mean, I was like emotionally like damaged by this whole event that I was made to go to this, uh, this clinic and all this stuff, but it was.

Speaker 1:

And then, like right after that, then they put me into speech therapy and then I had to go through that and then I was always like the kid that like I'm gonna tell you right now, like spelling, I was the worst speller in the world, still am the worst spelling world. I'm. I'm 60 years old, I can't spell worth a damn right. But unfortunately, or fortunately, I have overcome all those different obstacles and stuff like that and gotten to a point where it's like you know um be you.

Speaker 1:

You know those things. You gotta be you. You gotta continue to be you and and say and feel and um talk, at whatever level you are in life. And when you get to a point like if this person that you're talking about had the intention of you know ill intent and like to like knock people down, well, fuck you is what I say. Right, but if the if they have the intent of they're trying to make us better and they're trying to improve us and all this stuff, you know the person that you're talking to also has to be a willing recipient of it.

Speaker 2:

But why? Would you see? The one thing that I don't understand is why we just pick out the grammar. But going back to when we was a kid, because this took me back, it really did. When we were going, when I was driving down the road, I was sitting there thinking to myself well, I got to get better, I got to do this. And I thought to myself no, you don't, Gary, Fuck that. No, you don't. No, you don't, Because when I was a kid, I dealt with all that shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you, I dealt with it. I was on the outside of this in circle, okay, and I tried to fit in. I tried to look a certain way, talk a certain way, be a certain way. And then I realized I had this phenomenal mom and she used to tell me all the time because I used to get migraines. Migraines are where I'd throw up, I have to stay in a dark room, and it was horrible. And it was all because of the stress of trying to fit in, trying to do what someone else wanted me to do or say what they wanted me to say. So I got these migraines all the time, but I had this mother that kept telling me the most important thing, Gary, is to be a good person, to be someone that other people want to talk to, that they can depend on, and that's it. That's life. That's the most important thing in life is to be a good person. So I spent my life trying to be that good person. But still, it's amazing, though these little bitty words, when somebody says something, it goes all the way back to when you was a kid. So if you see that your kid's dealing with something, just realize this you being there for them. That kid's going to get stronger, they're going to get tougher and the outside shell is going to get to where people don't bother them anymore.

Speaker 2:

Because let me tell you something as much as I appreciate you right, I don't give a shit. I really don't. I mean, if you don't like what I say, if you don't like how I say it, you don't have to listen. You don't? I mean, you do not have to listen. And if you're just doing it to help, I appreciate you offering your help. You know, but a lot of times when you do that, maybe you should talk about the show first. Sure, Maybe you should talk about what we talked about. Are the content of the show? Not exactly? Am I using the correct grammar? Because that did affect me in a way? And? But you know what you did truthfully, you made me stronger.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. You know what. That's one of my things, like I was telling you, uh, we were talking about this before Um, you know, my wife used to correct my grammar all the time and she was. She was doing it and she was doing it from the heart, like she was trying to. She comes from a different, you know part of the world than I do and she wanted me to fit into that world that she wanted, but at the same time, she wasn't, she wasn't ashamed of what it was, but she was like, just like she wanted me to be better, because she knew that I was very motivated to better myself.

Speaker 1:

I was reading books and I was trying to teach myself all these different ways of becoming a better person. I was doing all this self-reflection and trying to like, build myself up. And when you're in a in, when you're in a um atmosphere or the um, you know a state of wanting to improve yourself and you're trying to do that type of stuff. Those type of comments are okay, you know, to me like it's. It's okay that she was like doing it.

Speaker 1:

It would make me mad and it wouldn't make me reflect on, you know, my childhood and things like that, but it was. I wasn't, I would check myself because I was like, wait a minute, I'm trying to make myself better. This is what I want to do. This is what I'm trying to do myself and she's trying to help me. So this is not malicious or anything, but yeah, this whole thing, honestly, everybody listening out there on our podcast, we're going to be us. We're going to be us. We're going to talk about everything and anything. We're going to bring you our experiences and we're going to say it how we want to say it and fuck it. If you don't want to listen, don't listen.

Speaker 2:

Don't listen, because I guarantee you I'm 58 years old. My ass, the grammar is not going to be right.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But if you want to hear something, real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, listen to us all right. So here's a real helpful best foods to travel with on a plane. Yeah, let's talk about some positive stuff, man, you know what? There's a lot of stuff like bringing. I was just at the airport the other day and, um, I did this, uh, orlando turn, and I got down to orlando and I didn't bring. We got on delay and so I didn't bring enough food with me and all that. So I went to buy some food. Man, I went to buy a sandwich and a bag of chips. Tell me how much that costs in the airport.

Speaker 2:

Depends on what airport you're talking about Orlando, Orlando Chips and a sandwich $20.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was $20. I got a discount. I got it for 15. Right, that was that's ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, these are the airports. The airports are like so, so damn expensive. I was in la the other day. I wanted to get something to eat too. Went to go get a burger burger 25 dollars. I was like, come on, this is crazy. But we wanted to give you some tips about foods to travel with.

Speaker 2:

We pack our own stuff. We bring our stuff all the time and the reason is for regular flights. But a little bit later in the show you're going to understand why we're telling you this today. But sandwiches and wraps definitely, man. A wrap will last you throughout the day. It's good to have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean fresh fruits, cheese cubes or a stick, cheese sticks and stuff like that. That's great, and all these things we're talking about are things that you can bring through to TSA checkpoint.

Speaker 2:

Right, you want, you want a nut mix. Uh, veg, I always have veggies, veggies or cut veggies. Um, you know, I'll have them with hummus. Uh, I have them with a little bit of ranch dressing every once in a while. And here's one of my actually one of my favorite quinoa bowls. Yeah, your quinoa bowl attic Love freaking quinoa bowls. Hey guys, I'm telling you quinoa, little cucumber, little bit of onion, tomato, chickpeas. And you got it, man, I'm telling you, put a little bit of dressing on it.

Speaker 1:

You're, you're set, yeah, and then always you know you need the sweet stuff, the dark chocolate, some snack bars come with you, uh, all those, all these different things. You just need to, like, think about things that you can get through the tsa checkpoint, because you definitely don't want to bring liquid. So, like you know, you know, bringing veggies with a ranch dip, that might not work, no, no, no. So just think about it.

Speaker 2:

This is the most important thing. Bring a container that you have, a water bottle that you can fill up, because, let me tell you something, hydration on a plane delays Everything are going to happen every single day. Most important thing bottles of water for you and the kids. Make sure that you have them. Just bring empty ones through TSA Nine times out of ten. Now that the airports have watering stations, you can go fill it up and then you've got enough water on the plane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know an airport in the United States that does not have water. You know areas like fountains and stuff that fill up the water bottles in the airport. I was just on a plane the other day. The this lady had her and her kids and they all had the water bottles and everything but for whatever reason not one of them were filled up. And she was like can you fill up our water bottles?

Speaker 2:

and I'm like no do right outside, right outside, I know the plane.

Speaker 1:

the plane only has so much. We only can stock so much and everything. And when you're talking about 200 people on an aircraft and you're one of the person and you want to take a giant portion of our supplies, that's not going to happen. No, Okay.

Speaker 2:

So here's the other part. Don't be this passenger, sean. What's that? Okay? Here's that Okay. Here's some of the things that you guys this does not want to be you on an airplane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, these are things that you just behave better. That's what I got to say.

Speaker 2:

Here's your favorite Don't wear your headphones during the safety demonstration.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, man, first of all, don't wear your headphones when anybody is talking to you, period. I mean, there's so many things happening in the beginning of the flight, and during the flight as well, that you need to be paying attention. But when somebody is looking at you and you see lips moving and you have the headphones on, yeah and each person all seems like 200 of them are you know? We talked to them. Would you like a snack?

Speaker 1:

it's funny how we take the headphones off and you're like, huh what? What'd you say exactly? What was that?

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna reach over and smack shit out of you doing shit man, we, we go over this all the time with you guys about the headphones. Take the damn headphones off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Just be be respective of people, period. It doesn't have to be just flight attendants like in the world.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I love this one. When you, when you're serving food in the back, you know you're selling food, what's that? What do you have? Yeah, what do you have? Uh, yeah, but what's on it? What's on it? Uh, it's, it's right there, it's got, it's got pictures on it, um, but um, so, do you have um this?

Speaker 1:

uh, no, it's not on that menu dude, I literally hand that menu, like I pull it out of the seat and I just hand him in you and I'm like I'll be back. And I just get, and I literally look at the next person would you like something to drink? I don't got time for that. They don't understand. We have certain. We only have a window If you're on a two-hour flight. We've got about an hour to service 200 people on the plane.

Speaker 1:

And we're going to ask everybody what you'd like to drink and if you'd like a snack. I mean, depending on the airline, like some airlines don't give that stuff right, but for our airline full service airline we're going to give, we're going to do this, but we only have a certain window to do it right and that is a time that you have to be participating right.

Speaker 2:

What would you like to drink? Uh can I have pepsi? Uh, it's not on the menu.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, coke yeah, here's another thing you'd never do on a plane don't snap your fingers at me. Oh, that's a bad one. Yeah, that's a bad. That may not.

Speaker 2:

You know some of the locations is like this what the? What was that? I? Had a dude on it sounds like air came out of somebody. I had a dude on a plane it sounds like air came out of somebody.

Speaker 1:

I had a dude on a plane last week I'm like on the cart and I just had talked to him and then, like the person next to him needed something or whatever, and the motherfucker poked me.

Speaker 2:

Don't touch the nice flight attendants, Dude I was ready to break his freaking fingers.

Speaker 1:

I'm serious. First of all, he was annoying me initially just because of how he was like just talking and the whole nine yards. Then I turned around I'm talking to other people and service other people and the guy pokes me. I'm dude. I almost like I wanted to smack him.

Speaker 2:

So the one thing that you don't do on an airplane is don't touch the flight attendants.

Speaker 1:

Don't touch them. There's no reason to touch anybody, it doesn't matter, not even flight attendants, another passenger, don't touch people, exactly, leave them alone. I mean, obviously we have to share armrests and things like that and you're in those confined spaces, but outside of that, there's no reason to intentionally poke someone to get their attention.

Speaker 2:

And don't do this, Don't blow the lab up in the morning.

Speaker 1:

Oh dude, that's a nasty one and I listen, I have all people have got the most incredible, terrible digestive system. I got bathroom issues all the time I go to I got I got my gastrointestinalologist.

Speaker 1:

I got a doctor that I go to regularly that's dealing with my shit, all right, but I'm going to tell you right now like there are times where you got that situation but for some reason on the aircraft there's always a person in the morning that comes on the plane and they want to take a shit on the plane. The first thing before we even push back from the gate.

Speaker 1:

And all those bathrooms in the terminal. You're like why would you want to take a shit on the plane, the first thing before we even push back from the gate? And all those bathrooms in the terminal. You're like why would you want to put it in this confined space? Come on, Come on bro Don't do it, man Don't do it.

Speaker 2:

Hey, can you move that crying baby to another area?

Speaker 1:

That's a great one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh sure man, I'm going to grab this infant. I'm going to grab this infant. I'm going to go shove him up here in the overhead bin. Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm sorry, man, but your little crane, little shithead needs to move a couple rows.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, these people back here are mad.

Speaker 1:

They're a little irritated by that. Can you help us out? No, Shit.

Speaker 2:

First thing when you walk on the plane in the morning time hey, good morning, what are you doing? I like my steak medium rare.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's so original, that's original.

Speaker 2:

That's a great one, thank you. Thank you for sharing. This is what I love. This is all the time. You know this one. Can we see the Grand Canyon from here?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we get those tough ones.

Speaker 2:

We'd be going to London man.

Speaker 1:

It'd be going to london, man. It'd be like do we could fly over the grand canyon? Yeah, uh, no. So you know what I used to do with all those people like or your or or the where are we yeah, yeah where are we?

Speaker 1:

I would like open, I would like open your window when you went out. I go, I go, look over there, see that, see that down there, right there, I go. If, if you look real, real hard, I go. You'll see those big the, the letters. You know that you see on the map that says the states. You'll see them as we fly across.

Speaker 2:

You know, this other one's good too, when you're flying over like Nebraska yeah, are those alien circles they talk about? Yeah, okay, no, that's called irrigation.

Speaker 1:

That's how we irrigate crops in america. Guys, I I personally respond with yes, this is a very high level of alien encounters and nobody ever sees them.

Speaker 2:

You can't of them, just.

Speaker 1:

They just land everywhere but in our business we get to see them where they're like concentrated.

Speaker 2:

This is the best one in Cleveland. This is the best one in Cleveland I had in Cleveland. Excuse me, what was the ocean we just flew over?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Ma'am, that's a lake. That's a lake. That's a lake. It's not an ocean around Cleveland.

Speaker 1:

I give you Listen, we're having poking fun and stuff and I know people are first time flyers out there and they don't get it and like the first experience and and believe me, I am one of the most I'm the advocate for like, I love first time flyers because they're fun, they're having good time. This is all experiencing the experience, the whole thing. You know like I get it. There's they don't know and stuff like that. But this isn't from people that are first-time flyers usually.

Speaker 2:

Every bit of what we're telling you makes our day, believe it or not. I mean, you know, if you have the attitude in this job which I do, sean does is that we have fun. I mean, we do, we have fun and we make fun of ourselves and we make fun of situations and we make fun of stuff that people tell us and this is some of the shit that we hear on airplanes all the time. But into Cleveland and the ocean in Cleveland, that one was good.

Speaker 1:

I always liked that one. Yeah, but then you know there's the other aspect of this airline business is that we have meltdowns and freaking. The industry goes up into a big shit show all the time.

Speaker 2:

I wonder what we're talking about this week.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, we're going to go around the grill up here and we're talking about like meltdowns of like how to deal with that stuff, you know.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what he's talking about is Newark was a complete, complete shit show this week Again. I mean what happens? This is what happens when a storm goes into the East Coast. Let me explain what happens when a storm goes into the East Coast. Let me explain. I want to explain it to you.

Speaker 2:

So when you're flying in because this just happened with someone that was traveling non-rev travel that I know the situation. So they were flying into Newark, everything was great. They were coming out of Vegas, the flight was great, they were supposed to land in Newark. The weather moved in to Newark, they had to divert. They didn't have enough fuel, so they had to actually go to Albany. Now this person was supposed to make a connection going to Savannah.

Speaker 2:

Now they were right on time, everything was perfect, but then they had to divert, so then they had to go to Albany and then they had to fuel up Albany, sit there, and then meanwhile the flight that she would have been on time with to Savannah was coming from Boston, short flight. So you know it was getting in, but it was getting in a little bit late. But by the time the flight took off from Albany, got in there, this person was already late, so they weren't making a connection. You're going to spend the night in Newark. At that point, I mean, it was a complete shit show in Newark and what we want to try to do is tell you how do you survive the shit show?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and before we get into that, like how I got impacted with this whole thing that you're talking about, I was doing the turn down to because this goes back to me buying the sandwich in Orlando. We were doing a turn down to Orlando and they took half my crew and they sent them to Newark because the other flights were late, trying to get in and all that stuff and they were trying to get Newark back in shape and so they delayed us in Orlando to get another flight going to Newark, to get that in on time and yeah, so how I end up buying a $15 sandwich.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's the part that they don't understand is that sometimes we just get handpicked. I mean they'll pick you right out and you're going somewhere else Because we just fill spots here. When all this big snowball effect happens in the industry, flight attendants everybody is subject to change. I mean it doesn't matter who you are, you're subject to change.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you may think you're going down to one destination and coming back home and you're going to come home that night and stuff. You might not come home that night and that's what we deal with every day. That's the possibility of every trip, as soon as we check in for the job. You might not get home that night.

Speaker 2:

All right, so let's talk about how to survive this shit show, Sean.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's try to do that.

Speaker 2:

First of all, if you're in an airport and you see this is going on, the easiest thing to do no planes are going out. You can see that what you want to do is you want to basically go secure an area of seats and don't move. Don't move because I'm going to tell you something all those seats are going to be taken because you're going to see a big wave of people just flooding an area coming off of airplanes and you're going to have nowhere to sit. So make sure that you get it. First of all, get a central location of a place you can sit.

Speaker 1:

You can just relax yeah, if you, if you have a group of people and like do as much as you can, if you're traveling by yourself, it's going to be tough. But yeah, that's a good piece of advice there, because the airports I mean, if you've ever been in an airport when the shit hits a fan and like I've been there they're bringing out cots and stuff in the airports and making the airport an emergency housing area because it's so bad.

Speaker 2:

Right, well, and here's another one too, though If it's going to be an extensive delay and you're going to need something to eat, something to drink, send only one person in your group with a cell phone and tell them make sure their cell phone's turned on and they can hear it. Send them for food and water. Keep your spot, because I'm telling you, man, you move, you lose it, and they ain't going to move after that point. So make sure you only send one person, and then you can keep in contact with them with a cell phone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the other thing you need to do is just travel with appropriate attire, for, however you are, as far as cold and hot like have a blanket, have a sweatshirt, hoodie, whatever, and the plane gets cold. But if you have to spend a night in the airport, it's going to be real cold in that airport too. So you need to have that. You get to have those tools, that to take care of yourself. So, people, when you're traveling, I mean, make sure that you have that, because planes are, you know they're, they're all over the place, they're like hot, they're cold, they're up and you know trust me on on what he just said there always, always, always, take a sweatshirt.

Speaker 2:

I don't care, I don't care if it's freaking 100 degrees outside sometimes in that aircraft and man, it is freaking, freezing, right. So take it. Take a sweatshirt because you might need it when you're traveling.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and if you are on a plane, remember, until you're airborne everything's subject to change, and even when you're airborne it can change too. I was thinking about that and I was like, yeah, I mean, it can change in an instant, just like there's people diverting and just know that we're at the whim of Mother Nature, it's out of your control.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's the one thing that you better realize when you fly. You don't have any control. You might think that you do. I mean, look, me and Sean have been doing this a long time. We have zero control of this shit, zero. All we do is that when they say take off, we take off. When they say land, we land, that's it.

Speaker 1:

That's as much control as it is, and hopefully it's going to be on schedule Yep. And we're doing everything possible to help it to be on schedule.

Speaker 2:

Right. And here's one thing before you go and actually know your airport, Know their information, Know hotels, Know things around there, Believe it or not, have a plan If this happens. Have a plan because you're going to survive this plan. If you know that there's certain hotels, say that you have a list of five hotels in the area and you have that list with you, or car rentals, a name of car rentals or whatever it is and you have it with you. You did your due diligence before because you have your family and everything, even travel by yourself. But you have this readily available when that shit show happens. You don't have to look for it. You don't have to search for it. You can just call it and then book a room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a lot of these tips and stuff we're telling you right now are big and like just frequent flyers. Like frequent flyers, a lot of them do this. This is how I travel, like we do everything that's on our list that we're talking about right now. I make sure that because I know it doesn't matter if I pay for a ticket, if I'm flying non-rev. Everything can go wrong and until you arrive at that destination, you know it's kind of out of your control.

Speaker 2:

You know, the one thing that I've always said since I've been doing this job, and this is true, this is, and actually this is in the best way when I come to work, I plan on everything going wrong, because airline industry and then it, when it goes right, it's a great day. So I mean it goes right way more than it ever goes wrong, but I still plan on going wrong, so I'm not upset, I'm just there, I do my job and then I go home Right, right, all right guys. Hey, listen man, we've had a great time this week. Sean end it with a quote.

Speaker 1:

Hey, our quote today is many of life's failures are people who don't realize how close they were to success when they gave up. Thomas edison, thomas edison, love that man. I mean, I'm gonna tell you right now, like, if you, it's like what we're doing right now, you keep trying and you're trying to improve yourself and you try to make it. Uh, you know right, and you're gonna continue to fail, fail, fail. You're gonna do a lot more failing and actually winning and uh, keep trying, man.

Speaker 2:

You and I will work on that. We're working on it Did you like that? Did you like?

Speaker 1:

that I like that man, you like that, you and I.

Speaker 2:

You're improving. Thanks, I appreciate that. Till next week, guys. All right, guys, you guys have a great week, all right.

Speaker 1:

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