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You're listening to Cabin Pressure with Sean and Gee. Before we start, we pause to remember September 11th and the brave crews who served that day To everyone in our aviation community and every family touched by the loss. Our hearts are with you. We will never forget. So, gee, what's worse? Finding a cricket in the shower or being told airlines are testing stand-only seats like we clap when we land, or just stretch?
Speaker 2:A cricket in the shower, man hands down. That's not a bug, that's a rock concert you didn't invite.
Speaker 1:At least standing seats won't sing to you while you're shampooing.
Speaker 2:Coming up. We'll also hit pilot spilling coffee in the cockpits, a fake Chinese space station and, yes, even dog poop etiquette.
Speaker 1:Plus a cruise out of Miami, medical emergencies and a UK law student who learned Dubai. Prisons are not as glamorous as they sound.
Speaker 2:This is Cabin Pressure with Sean and G. Buckle up, we're taking off. Hey, everyone welcome. This is cabin pressure sean ding dong.
Speaker 1:Baby, here's sean every week. Man, what's up? Man, what's been going down?
Speaker 2:we've had so much going on this week. Yeah, it's crazy. It's been crazy. I mean, we started off, uh, this week medical emergency you did medical emergency.
Speaker 1:What was the situation?
Speaker 2:this lady comes to the back and, um, she, she looks like she's gonna pass out. She wanted to go to the, she wanted to go into the bathroom. We don't let them do that because we know something's wrong. So I thought it was blood pressure right away because she started sweating, got her on the ground.
Speaker 1:She didn't want to hang on the ground, because you know like galley floor. Yeah, it's nasty.
Speaker 2:But you got to get on the ground because I told her. I said, listen, either lay down or you're going to fall down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, head trauma is better than being nasty. Yeah, or no, not as good. You don't want head trauma.
Speaker 2:You're going on the galley floor one way or another, either on your own, or you're going to go down because of whatever's going on with you. But anyway, we looked for some medical personnel. No one actually called.
Speaker 1:I mean they didn't answer right away. No, you, you weren't playing, you weren't on spirit that day, were you?
Speaker 2:no, and you think you know, usually with the clinic we always have, we have doctors and nurses on all yeah, we always have people on, but anyway someone yeah, didn't respond right away, but had her laid down.
Speaker 2:I got her feet elevated, got them up overhead, so, um, her heart's not, you know, working so hard. But um, uh, took her, uh, oxygen level already had that, was getting ready to take her blood pressure med link. You know how that goes. But uh, long story short. Then a nurse decided she wanted to come and help and she was like well, you already got all this stuff hooked up and she, oh, she took off her headphones and figured out something else was happening.
Speaker 2:She came in but I mean it was. She came back there and she was like no, her oxygen level, because oxygen level was like 98.
Speaker 2:So I mean, yeah, no, she was good and we had go through the procedures you know MedLink and all that fun we have to do and all the paperwork but she ended up being good. Good, I mean medical emergency but the funny thing about it, her husband's back there watching us and other flight attendant Chris, he's talking to her and he's like you guys are amazing. She goes we're not just pretty faces and that's the funny thing about. When people's perception of a flight attendant is a drink and snacks right yeah. But when a medical emergency and we talk about this all the time on the podcast and you describe it as first responders because we are I mean this person comes to the back and they're looking for help.
Speaker 1:Yep, they are the first responders, there's no doubt about it. I mean, we are there to get your asses off the aircraft and take care of you in any type of emergency. And so what people don't realize is that, like the second, an airline says you know what? Uh, we don't have to do that anymore. Like you know, they some laws change, whatever, and we don't have to do that. Guess what?
Speaker 2:you're on an empty plane with no flight attendants right because they'll take us out there in a split second but you know, the one thing that I've learned over the years that, through all these medical emergencies, is that you can't depend that there's going to be a doctor on there. You've got to get started, because you're going to talk to MedLink, you're going to talk to a doctor online, but you're going to need this other information like oxygen level, blood pressure, stuff like that and we're trained to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't wait Like and we're trained to do that. Yeah, you can't wait Like. Oh, I hope there's somebody else here that could step in instead of me. Like, time matters in a lot of these situations. So you know you got to respond.
Speaker 2:And that's why we do Well. You're just not a pretty face there, buddy. Well, some people think so hey, question for you Do you ever have a problem with somebody putting trash in your can?
Speaker 1:your trash can no, do you mean? Do I have a problem with people putting trash in my trash can?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's called a trash can to put trash in it but you don't have a problem if somebody walking by sticks trash in your trash, can oh, you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Are you talking? You're not talking about the plane, no, you're. I'm like why are you in? Like a neighbor walking down the street and they put trash in my trash. Can you need to?
Speaker 2:tune in because I was already done with the medical emergency.
Speaker 1:I jumped right into a trash can.
Speaker 2:I asked you a question Did you ever have a problem with somebody putting trash in?
Speaker 1:your trash can? No, I don't have that problem?
Speaker 2:Really no, but would you have one? No, you wouldn't. No, did somebody just walked by?
Speaker 1:No, okay, you know why. Here's my reason. Because now it depends on where you're. You know how you're, how you're set up with your trash and stuff. Like some people pay per can and all that stuff, like that's their. They actually that's a cost to take your trash, right, but my trash is unlimited. Like I could put my freaking you know car on this and they're supposed to take my car. Anything that puts the set out there. It doesn't matter who sets it out. Whatever it's out there, they take it all and I don't get charged. It's just one fee, so I don't care. Put stuff there as long as it's gone. When I'm getting ready to take my cans back inside, Well, you're generous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, that's how I am. You're such a nice person.
Speaker 2:I'm a, not me. They put okay, and I'm gonna have this person walk over to your neighborhood and put in your can that's okay.
Speaker 1:They put their dog poop in my, in my can oh okay, yeah, oh, people do that here a lot yeah they put your their yeah you know, they bag it up and they're walking around and especially on garbage day, they'll just lift up a can and throw it in there. But here, here's. The thing is like there, you know, doesn't I know this neighborhood it's a flat fee. So everybody got a flat fee and boom yeah, well, my can stunk like dog crap no, my can stinks even all the time all right.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what I don't do. You know you're talking about cans and stuff like. This has been on my list, like I've been literally procrastinating to do. This is like clean the garbage can. Like, do you, do you pressure, wash out your garbage?
Speaker 2:yeah, I do, I see, so my my can smells like dog shit.
Speaker 1:Now yeah, well, you know, shit happens. Poop etiquette it's all right man don't be wound up about some dog poop man shut up. I'm just glad that they you know they could have just threw it in your yard, be like tossed in your lawn now.
Speaker 2:I'd be pissed right, I'm gonna come do that in your lawn, but if they threw it in my garbage can like, so they can maybe take away, you'd be like gee, use a bathroom. And no, you said it was okay I just come do this on your lawn, all right dog poop trauma.
Speaker 1:What's been going on with you, dude? You know what? I had this? Uh, I had this sound the other day in my in my bathroom. And I'm sitting here in the office I'm doing my you know my shit and, uh, all of a sudden I hear this and I'm like what? What the heck is that?
Speaker 1:And I get up from my seat here and I walk in my bathroom and I get over there and I'm like I just replaced, like my faucet in my bathroom. So I was like is there something going on like this pressure builder or what's happening? And then all of a sudden it stops. So then I walk out and I get back to my office and all of a sudden and I'm like what the fuck? You know, I'm like what's happening here? So then you know one yeah, it takes a little while for me to figure it out that every time I walk in, the sound stops and every time I leave, you know, it starts back up. So I'm like there's something alive in my bathroom because it's seeing me right, and so I'm like what the heck is this?
Speaker 1:And I can't figure it out. I'm thinking is there something coming up my drain? Like is it something like you know, I don't know what kind of creature could be in there and I didn't want to look either. So I was like you know what? I'm going to spray down my shower. So I spray down my shower and all of a sudden I see this little shit, little cricket jumps out of nowhere and he's like jump around. I'm like like damn, it is a cricket. And I mean this thing is like no bigger than like about two pencil head, you know racers. Like he was tiny. But he could, I could. He's making noise all the way to my office here. I could hear him. So I sprayed him down and killed that son of a bitch damn.
Speaker 2:All that little thing was doing is in the corner. Go man, I'm gonna jack with this dude.
Speaker 1:Watch this yeah, man, he was jumping around trying to avoid and everything. I turned the water up to hot.
Speaker 2:Well, you would avoid that too. A big-ass person like you trying to flush him down the drain. Yeah, yeah, I'm like spraying him.
Speaker 1:He's jumping all around. I'm spraying him, spraying him, I'm like I got you, bitch, I got you, and Squirrels down the drain.
Speaker 2:You big scary-ass self. You couldn't pick that little cricket up and put his ass outside?
Speaker 1:Oh man, I'm the Black Panther of killing crickets. I'm the cricket killer.
Speaker 2:Get you a t-shirt.
Speaker 1:Dude, that was annoying shit.
Speaker 2:I mean, I hate you know like I had one of those in the garage and every time, every single time that I would walk out there, you're, you're, you're just hurt him and then you're like where in the hell are you at?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like three or four days and they could hide in like the tiniest cracks and they're still like they got their little legs going like crazy. Come on man. Yeah, jiminy, cricket, it wasn't that annoying. At least cricket killer, right Per people, anyways. But the other thing, you know I got my what projects going on? And did you, do you ever run into this?
Speaker 1:Like you get a guy that comes over to your house or whatever, even if you're in like a store or whatever, you get this salesman that he's. He's, you know, this guy's trying to sell you something right commissioned and he's an annoying son of a bitch, like he just everything on his mouth. He was just like talking past and everything, blah, blah. He's trying to tell me like you know, people don't remember this and you know you're not going to remember this and blah, blah and all that stuff. And you know people don't do this.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I'm just listening to him. I'm just like I'm just let him go, let him go, let Let me go. And I'm like, listen, I said all these assumptions that you made. That's not me. I said, and um, I'm old school and yes, I do get three quotes. He's like you don't have to do that anymore. You can research on Google. I said, listen, I don. Whatever you're, you know all that. I don't need to remember your whole procedures because if I need to do that, then I'll do it my own damn self.
Speaker 2:Right, I'm trying to hire you. Some of these guys don't realize, though, is guys like me and you used to do a lot of different jobs, and one of the jobs that we used to do is sales is sales.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did sales. I mean I'm like I'm listening to the guy, I'm like just listen, listen, get to the bottom line already. I, I know what the procedure is. No, this did.
Speaker 1:But he was so fucking annoying I literally like almost didn't go with this guy because, just because, he was knowing but I went with him because he actually the product and the uh company and all the stuff that behind him and all the stuff was the most professional out of all the people that came here. So everybody else was like kind of a ma and pa thing. And so when you're thinking about doing something in your house, you like want to get somebody that's going to be established so that like thought they give you a 15-year warranty but five years down the line they go out of business. So where you at right, right, you got nothing. So this company is nationwide and you know they got protection and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:But they got a sales guy that's killing sales.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey.
Speaker 2:He might have got yours. But let me tell you, you know that man, you can kill a sale easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just by personality, but I mean he was super friendly, so that was good, and it was just his old like he couldn't stop himself from talking, like just stop Telling you what you didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, it is what it is. The other thing, man, I've been trying to listen to other podcasts and I came across this podcast the other day and they were talking about the subject about micro romances micro romances micro romances and I was like what, what is that? You know what a micromancer is?
Speaker 2:I'm about ready to.
Speaker 1:You're getting ready to know exactly yeah, it's like a micromancer is like you know, you're sitting around and an unexpected you do an unexpected like thing for your loved one. That is like something caring or thoughtful for that person and it's just that one special things. Like you know, if I was sitting here in my office and out of nowhere my wife brought in a cup of coffee for me, I'd be like, damn, she never does that, but that's a micro romance that's bullshit.
Speaker 2:Listen, you know something isn't that funny. They, they just put, they, they put little bitty tags on what that is right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, make up it.
Speaker 2:Okay, before it was like I love you, I do something for you, right? It's sweet. You did something for me. Now it's a micro-romance. You don't do any micro-romancing anymore. What the?
Speaker 1:At least like what cracked me up about it is that Could you?
Speaker 2:imagine no wait, I couldn't ever. Could you imagine you going upstairs right now To Carol and go? You know something? I'm thinking I need to be more micro romantic.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't work that way. You don't tell them. That's the whole point behind this. In the past they just didn't call it Micromancers. It was like oh, I just did a loving thing For my spouse, you know. Or you know, just like I did something to care, you know it's? It's, it's not, they're just labeling it. They're just coming up with like labels for you. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. We've been, we've been doing it, we've been doing it, but they just like decided they want to label this a mic romance, yeah try to make a movement.
Speaker 1:We're gonna do a micromancer. That's bullshit just do a nice thing gee, be a lover, whatever be a lover yeah, a micromancer the other thing that happened too, man, you know, because I'm in school and everything, uh.
Speaker 1:So we get in this thing where we're doing this exercise, we're on Zoom and have you Zoomed with you? Yeah, yeah, so Zoom. It cracks me up that people don't know how to Zoom by now since COVID, because through COVID, the whole entire time I communicated with my family through Zoom. Zoom blew up because of COVID Because everybody because everybody's like this is they had the tool right there for you ready to go and people jumped on it and they started zooming. So you know they FaceTime was doing it, the iPhone and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But zoom for like businesses and big groups and all that stuff. But it cracks me up that people don't like zoom. Super easy to use. It has like a little like control panel at the bottom. It has like a speaker and it has a little movie camera and it has a red slash going across and you click it and it goes on or it goes off. You can see yourself. You can't see yourself. I mean like it's pretty simple. It's made so that anybody, even little school kids and stuff, use this right, so it's not hard.
Speaker 1:But last night I get into this whole group and we're supposed to like be sharing some things and we're supposed to get like in a round robin type of thing and just like take turns doing this and this one dude comes into the room and he doesn't have his camera on and he's like like literally like right in the middle of one of the gals talking and they give us all these rules, right, the dude just jumps in hi, I'm jose and I want to tell you that my amnula, you know and everybody in the room they had told, given instructions, like not to respond to things, like just listen was the whole part of the listening exercise, type of thing, and then just like like not listening whatsoever, and this motherfucker just like jumps right on this middle of this girl, like you know, and he just keeps going on and on and on and I'm like at the end of him talking, I'm like jose, uh, yeah, kaya was talking now, when you look at the screen, is that like multiple pictures?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, you have a whole screen like a checker come up like a black screen.
Speaker 1:Yeah he, he has just a black box. In the beginning we're like Jose, your camera's not on Jose, and it was like you know, it was quiet, nothing and everybody's waiting. Jose, is he there? Like none of us knew if he was there or not there. So I was like okay, so we have five people in the room, but one is blank and then you're like okay, let's start the exercise, let's you know, we can't wait for this.
Speaker 1:So we start going and then, right in the middle of the second girl, she's he's like hi I'm jose and I get it from nowhere, and then he then then he leaves his uh like mic on and you can tell like there's kids in the room and there's all kinds of other stuff happening and he's like talking in the background and I'm like Jose Jose.
Speaker 1:I'm like turn off your mic. Like, turn off your mic, like nobody else. We're trying to do exercise here. Dude, like people with technology cracks me up and it's as simple as possible. So I'm like just come on, listen, get with it. This is not If you can run your iphone or you run any type of phone. These days you can run freaking zoom. So did he ever put his mic? Did he ever put? Literally? He disappeared after that. Like that was it.
Speaker 2:We got him to shut the mic off and then he disappeared like I'm not playing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't want to participate, so like we would come back to him. Well, jose, do you have something to say? And we're all sitting there quiet.
Speaker 2:No, nothing so jose became the joke of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah and we were all cracking up about it. But you don't want to like say something because he's on there and probably listening, but he wasn't participating. It was crazy anyways, but uh, yeah, that was an experience to do. The other thing too, man, like out of this whole thing, we got to talking and we were rapping about this and it was really um cool to identify with all these people that were like all over the united states, with people on the west coast, east coast, north, south. All these different people. And when we started talking at the by the end of this exercise, it was really amazing to see the diversity in the world and how there was liberals and conservatives on there, there was male and female, but no matter what, all our stories connected, no matter what we talked about, no matter what, all of us were able to connect with each other.
Speaker 2:That's respecting each other, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:Respecting but also identifying that we're not so different.
Speaker 2:Right, it was respecting each other, because you probably had differences.
Speaker 1:No, we had differences, but the exercise wasn't focused on the differences. The exercises were focusing on listening to the other person to see, to hear and listen to what they experiences, their personal experiences, without any judgment whatsoever. I mean, you can be judging them, but the exercise kind of just made you see this.
Speaker 2:You judged Jose.
Speaker 1:Well, Jose, that's some bitches. He started on the wrong foot with me.
Speaker 2:Sorry, jose, I'm going to tell you he started on the wrong foot with me.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I was like I'm gonna tell you, but anyways, man, you know that that, that's.
Speaker 2:That's what's been going on, man. Hey, did you see what happened with the us military this last week?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, you're talking about them like blowing that damn boat up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what'd you think of that?
Speaker 1:excellent about damn time like, for I know everybody out there there's like the one. There's two sides of the story, right oh those innocent people and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:But you know what? Us getting back to that, um, you know, taking it to them outside the us, I don't want them to be here in the us. First of all, I don't get here because they're killing people, right and uh, so their drugs come in the country and they're they're. You know, people are dying and we have friends that have been affected by this. They've lost their kids and stuff. But you know, I thought it was awesome, I mean, for our intelligence to be ahead of it, to like be able to identify. These are drug trafters. This is a boat loaded with drugs. Take it out.
Speaker 2:So if you guys are wondering what we're talking about, this was a vessel that was transporting drugs from Venezuela. It was one of those high-speed boats and we completely destroyed this thing and it was on video and you could actually see the guys that were on the boat. You could see the bales of of drugs. That was uh, I think it was. They said methamphetamines, they they didn't know exactly for sure, but they knew that was bales of of all kinds of uh well, I go drugs.
Speaker 1:I think there was, um, there was a boat that came in to like do the recovery and there was a bunch of high fish out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the.
Speaker 1:Like the fishes, were little dolphins. They're nuts. They were flipping in.
Speaker 2:I don't know, oh, you're killing me. But anyway, going back to this video, it was probably in a long time the most intense video I've seen, because you actually see these people and you're like these pieces of crap are bringing these drugs into our country. These pieces of crap are bringing these drugs into our country and we have a lot of flight attendants that they've either had family members, kids, spouses, someone that they know had died of drugs, yeah, and these pieces of crap have been bringing drugs into our country and for the first time, it wasn't about because, okay, first of all, international law is completely different right, I mean international law is different.
Speaker 2:When you enter into the space of the United States, it's our law, yep, and if we are engaging, it's our law.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then before we would always go and intercept, right, yep, and we'd take the drugs, take the people, and then they'd end up doing what Cycled. They'd come back. They ain't coming back this time, arthur, sean. No, they lit their ass up and they blew their ass up. They ain't coming back.
Speaker 1:Well, that whole thing with declaring all the cartels and stuff as a terrorist, terrorist yeah.
Speaker 1:So declaring them as terrorists and reclassifying them, that gives us that authority to be able to just do whatever we need to do to put them in check. And here to you know, just do whatever we need to do to put them in check. And here's the most amazing thing out of all this stuff, all the facts of all this stuff, is that you know, any country out there, right, right, like I mean, this is this to me is like iran, right, right, we went in there, bombed the shit out of iran, took out their freaking nukes and all that stuff, and what was the response?
Speaker 2:nothing yeah, crickets, yeah, and what was?
Speaker 1:the response Nothing Crickets.
Speaker 2:Venezuela's was the same thing, crickets. Well no, they sit there and said well, venezuela will retaliate with any response. I'm like yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did the little flyby thing yeah exactly, yeah, good on you.
Speaker 2:But you know, let me tell you something. When I was seeing this video, I was thinking of the next boat that was leaving and the guys that were on that boat and them telling them listen, don't worry about it. They were going this direction. You guys go over in this direction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, not a good idea right if you were working that boat I'm not working, first of all, and I'll never even be considered to work that boat, because I'd never be my ass, no, this is hypothetical like I said.
Speaker 2:I said if you were one of those guys that were getting on that boat and you'd just seen that damn boat blow up, yeah, yeah, there's no way. No, it was a clear statement. It's finally.
Speaker 1:Here the smart people aren't going to work that boat.
Speaker 2:No, but it was a clear statement by the United States saying we've had enough, right, right. We've had enough of you bringing drugs in our country, we've had enough of you killing our people and and if you do it again, you see exactly what's going to happen. You know, and what I love about this none of our taxpayer dollars are going to fund these people, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, they ain't here yeah it's just a cleanup process you ever see that movie about. I can't remember the title of the movie, but but it was. John Travolta was in it and the whole point of this movie was, like the US had this special task force Was that face-off, nope, it was like a black ops type of situation and basically they would just go in and take out whatever If you did something wrong. Boom, it was like lethal retaliation and they were like not connected to the united states, but they were type of thing it actually kind of connected, I think, worldly, and they would just go in and just like just annihilate them.
Speaker 1:Yeah it was, it was awesome movie, it was like it was a really old movie, but, um, it's kind of like what? Happened here, you know because that those video to me was like, reminded me of, like the Gulf Wars and you know all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But it's the first time that we actually seen where the United States, instead of actually apprehending him, we just blew him up. Yeah, that was phenomenal. And then did you also see what they're actually using the F-35s to? Do Awesome F-35s. They they're actually deploying them to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they sent down 10 of them down there and they are freaking amazing.
Speaker 2:Those aircrafts are ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Well, US Air Force is amazing period. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, being a veteran, but it's like the technology that we have at our disposal is the best in the world.
Speaker 2:There's nobody that beats us right, I you know, I didn't tell you. Actually dalton's going back to korea too. I just talked to him the other day.
Speaker 1:He's gonna go to do a tour, uh, tour over there yeah, well, he already did one yeah so he's going back.
Speaker 2:He's going back back, actually, for his second tour over in Korea, right? So yeah, my son, my son Dalton, is Air Force crew chief on the F-16 and he's returning back to Korea. Cool, yep. What do you think about that 23 year old wannabe lawyer?
Speaker 1:23 year old, not so smart wannabe lawyer. When I think about her stupid.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, isn't it? I mean, you're a lawyer, right, know the law and supposedly a little bit intelligent, right, right. And then you're in Dubai and you're found with 50 grams of cocaine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that ain't smart. You know what? There's book smart and there's common sense smart, and a lot of those people that are book smart don't have the common sense smart Her common sense is straight out the freaking window.
Speaker 2:You know we talked about this all the time. The laws in the United States are different, but when you go into another country, man, their, their response is quick, right, and there's there's really a lot of times you, you don't have much of a defense.
Speaker 1:No, no, I mean, listen, when you go abroad, it doesn't matter what country you're in and who's who's going over there. It's kind of like you know. It's kind of like the uh signing up for a rental car or something like that. You know who reads the fine print. You know nobody's reading the laws or anything like that. But if you go over there and you break their laws, believe me, the wrath of those laws are going to come down very sharply and very heavily on american.
Speaker 1:We were just talking about that in this, uh, like the little class, because we had another classmate that she was a military brat as well and you, you know, being a military brat, you know one of the things they do with.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you know this, but when are they? If you go abroad, like your son's getting ready to go abroad, so he's married, yeah, so one of the processes, what they do is when you go to Korea, whether you've been there or not been there, the whole family has to do an in-doc, which is a class. So you have to go over there and the military is going to brief the family kids, wife, everybody and teach them the culture. It's kind of like what we go through with flight attendant training, All these cultural differences, what's right, what's wrong, and they point out things that are common, like mistakes, with Americans to that culture. So you get like an understanding of how it works and all that stuff you know, and you know what's what's polite, what's not polite. All that stuff, how to blend in and not be confrontational with the local and they had something different with his too.
Speaker 2:And she, she's ended up, she's going to stay home. And the reason why is because, either if he just went by himself, it was a year, but if you he went with her is three yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, if you take your family, why is that? Because they're moving everything like you're. They're going to pay for you to move okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1:It's a transplant thing okay so you it's a three-year tour, or then you can do a short tour and if they don't always have an option? So sometimes it's an option, sometimes it's not. Sometimes you'll get like, okay, you're going for three years, right, um? Or like many of my brothers, sisters and all that stuff did we? You know, you get orders and it's just like a uh, short combat, 10-month tour or something like that. Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:I, I thought that. I mean I thought it was because of moving. But going back to this person, this girl actually was. She's very pretty, I mean, you know, I mean, if you've seen the picture, very pretty, but she was going to a place, okay, first of all, the amount of money was only about $3,400. So your whole life. Now, your whole life. You're going to be a law student, but your whole life. You just got sentenced to a life sentence in Dubai, that's, it's a 20 to 25 year term, okay, and that prison. Now that person is known for rape every day.
Speaker 1:Dude. Here's the thing is she? She's thinking like so many typical Americans when they go abroad that like the shit I do here in the united states I can do it elsewhere. And like she probably goes to parties that there's coke everywhere and all this stuff you know, like that's like a, a fun, you know thing to do. But it's like you know you go abroad and like certain things it you can't. You can't do those things and the penalties are so much harsher like other countries. Like you know you go to the middle east and a female commits a crime, like you're gonna get stoned to death right, you know, I'm like there's, there's you just got to be aware where you're going to
Speaker 2:and understand you're the foreigner right, but this is the first time. Going back to what we talked about, that video is the first time the united time, the United States, has said we're done with your shit too. We just blew shit up Because all these other countries do the same thing. I mean $3,400,. You get a life sentence and 25 years in prison, but stupid.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make any sense. They'll be fighting it and lawyers and whoever's paying for her lawyers or trying to think but she's going to do some time, that 15 to 25 years. I don't think she'll probably do the whole thing, but she's definitely going to do a big chunk. Yeah, she's going to do a hard time too Right?
Speaker 2:And yeah. I'm going to go there, but hey, you know what's? Dumb and funny at the same time? What's that? That Chinese space station? The space station Did you see, that no, they had this picture of the Chinese space station. They were acting like they were in space, like China got the space and they're like, oh yeah, they're showing the space station and everything. And then immediately someone debunked it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There is a glass of water sitting on the table.
Speaker 1:On the table. On the table, yep. So it should be floating around, should be floating normally.
Speaker 2:They're all floating around that person that was responsible for putting that video out is in some chinese prison too.
Speaker 1:For life yeah, but they just made china look stupid well, you know, here here's the uh. So, being my uh photography background, all that stuff, and you cannot believe pictures today like that. That's, that's. There's so much fraud in pictures and with ai it's even. It's even worse, right, because, like ai can create people now that look like people, sound like people, all this stuff and they're. They don't even exist. So I mean the belief in the uh, the authenticity of any image now is like getting less and less credible.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, like people like show me the video. Like you know, take a video and they're doing that video. Like you know, on the plane or any situation, you do the video. Even videos can be altered, everything can be altered, like the power of the computers nowadays to be able to recreate a situation. And you know, you see it every day, even on the news they're talking about like how they altered like an interview. You know a politician and politicians like they said this, here's what they, she said, and then you, they show it on another station and then it's been altered. You know, like that's, that's criminal as far as I'm concerned. But I mean, you just can't put any type of. You know, what I see today. I always kind of like question like in the back of my head I don't care what I see, it doesn't matter what picture it's like. Is that really real or really not?
Speaker 2:well, in the united states, you, you get it. Oh you, you screwed up a little bit in china. Nah, you're going to prison.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're going to prison on that one man. You just made china look someone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, making you look stupid now, so you're gonna love this next one. Okay, what do you think about this one? Reality coming soon on the low-cost carrier standing room seats?
Speaker 1:no way you'll, you would never ever, ever.
Speaker 2:How taylor say never ever ever yeah, I can't even imagine me on there like the saddle seats hooked up to a pole, basically yeah, no way.
Speaker 1:There's no way. That's like uh, you know, when you go to the amusement park and you see those stand-up roller coasters and stuff like that, that's basically what they're doing.
Speaker 2:So are you going to have a whole stand-up section? Because there's no. Could you imagine having a stand-up row and then a sit-down row? Your face is in somebody's ass.
Speaker 1:Here's my question, going back to last week. Now, what do you do for the large-sized person? Exactly yeah, when that ass doesn't fit in that seat, like you can't even buy two seats, like their legs don't stretch over two seats, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I don't even know how they accommodate that.
Speaker 2:It's a little bike-style padded seat.
Speaker 1:This is stupid. Did everybody out there hear me?
Speaker 2:this is stupid could you imagine they'll look back in the airplane, see like the front part of the plane sitting down? Uh, excuse me, anybody that is standing. You can't move to any seated uh, open seats.
Speaker 1:So now we have standing seating and then we have, uh, no, jet bridges, we're gonna do pull up jet yeah, pull up jet bridges.
Speaker 2:No, no more, no more jet jetways yeah and stand up.
Speaker 1:Seeds, yeah, no no, this is stupidness. This is all, uh, theoretical at this point because nobody's flying this yet, but I know they've been talking about it?
Speaker 2:we're gonna see it. They got an approval for it.
Speaker 1:I know that right, we're gonna see it yeah, no I won't see it because I'm not gonna be on those damn planes at all. They like if I sit in the sun but stand up standing room only no, I said we see it.
Speaker 2:I didn't say we'd be on the plane. Oh my god. Okay, let's go around the globe.
Speaker 1:Around the globe man. So a plane returns to the gate and a passenger tells a flight attendant that they need to shut up. Did?
Speaker 2:you see that? So they're doing the demo, okay, yeah, and this woman's on her phone and she tells the flight attendant hey, listen, tell them to shut up, shut up. I can't hear them, I can't hear the people on her phone. And she tells the flight attendant hey, listen, tell them to shut up shut up.
Speaker 1:I can't hear, I can't hear them on the phone.
Speaker 2:Tell them shut up. Well, we're doing the demo, I don't care what you're doing. Tell them shut up.
Speaker 1:I can't hear them talk you know every airline out there in the united states. Once that door closes, it's against the law of faars that you have your phone on period. You're not supposed to be communicating with anybody, right? So I mean for the audacity for these people to be like shut up. I'm on the phone. You're interrupting me.
Speaker 2:And she was claiming that the flight attendant was being racist with her after they kicked her off the plane after she, on video, was telling them to shut up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it always goes back to race.
Speaker 2:You're going to get kicked right off the plane. It doesn't matter, you could be purple, you're going off the plane. You tell a flight attendant to shut up. There's your ticket out.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm racist too, to ignorant people, Exactly.
Speaker 2:Anybody tells you that, any person tells you to shut up, it doesn't matter if it's a man, woman, kid, family, everybody's going back to the terminal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, here's the technical reason why we're going back to the terminal, outside of all the emotional stuff, is that they're interfering with our job. This is our job. We've got safety responsibilities to do, we've made several announcements to that point and you are interfering with our procedures. And if you are so belligerent and ignorant to tell us to shut up, it's a phrase and they used it and I loved it.
Speaker 2:Even in this circumstance they used that it was interference with the crew members duties. So remember that phrase because if you tell a flight attendant to shut up, they're going to tell you the reason why that you were moved off that aircraft is interference of a crew member's duties.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can. You can probably say shut up one time, and then we like in trying to explain to you what we're trying to do, and then you still tell us to shut up, yeah, and then you piss sean off. So you're like in trying to explain to you what we're trying to do, and then you still tell us to shut up, yeah, and then you piss Sean off, so you're going to go sit in the terminal.
Speaker 1:I always tell everybody, like I always tell her listen, you don't want me to walk away, Okay, I say the same thing. I'm like you don't want me to walk away. If I walk away from this, it's done.
Speaker 2:Right, you're done.
Speaker 1:If you see the back of my head, the plane's going to start moving in a different direction, yep.
Speaker 2:We turn them back around, and as soon as it turns around, it's too late.
Speaker 1:Yeah you're too late. Right and listen. I learned a long time ago, early in my career.
Speaker 2:I career, I had this guy you're talking about.
Speaker 1:This is the same situation.
Speaker 1:I had this guy remember, uh the um, when we tried to do the low-cost carrier thing and we were we were oh yeah, you know okay and they had made the just the seats in our cabins where, like the pastors, we were like locking knees with the pastor, right, right, and so we only had, like, like this plane held 120 people or whatever, and if I had 15 people, you know that was amazing in those days. And so this guy gets on and he like sits right in the thing where we're like locking seats, I'm like you're going to have to move a couple rows back or a row back. You know you're not going to sit here for this flight. So then he moves right and he goes in and we're getting ready, I'm getting ready to close the door and I'm like flight attendants, you know, prepare for departure.
Speaker 1:And the guy stands up and he says he looks straight. I mean he stands up in the cabin in front of everybody and he's like you are an asshole. And I just looked at him and I said, and you are not blind today. And I opened back up the door and I was like get off. And he's like what?
Speaker 1:I'm like get off oh my you know, like I'm like this is this it. And then so what, what ends up happening is like that, you know, everybody comes down and they're trying, trying to calm down the situation and all this stuff, and they're like he's going to behave, he can get back on and all this stuff, right. And so I decide, you know what, I'm going to let him go. I'm going to be a nice guy. He's real in it, are you serious.
Speaker 1:This is early in my career right, oh, my God, so I let him back on captain's like he's it seems like he's me be nice. He was apologetic, all this stuff, and so we fly him to his point and he gets up at the end of the flight and he's like you are an asshole you're still an asshole and listen. It was, you know. Fyi for everybody out there. Like I don't give, I don't change my mind either. Once and Once my mind's made, that's it.
Speaker 2:And that's exactly what I was going to say. Is that with me and you? Now it's follow through? Yeah, I don't care if I said it, it's going to happen, Because there's no way I'm taking you back at 30,000 plus feet and you got that kind of attitude. There's no way I'm not dealing with that.
Speaker 1:Well, you already displayed that you do not respect our authority and our understanding of us, because we have to control the plane, we have to be in control. That's why we're there.
Speaker 2:Do you get mad? I don't get mad.
Speaker 1:I don't get mad. I don't.
Speaker 2:I mean I really don't. I don't take it personally, but what it is is that— when I was young.
Speaker 1:No, just take I just take them off, right. When I was young I did get mad. There was like some point I'm like I'm gonna punch you in the fucking face like that's. You know that's what was my attitude back, right, but now it's. Now it's like you know little. I just know, hey, I made that decisions done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're gonna have a bad day yes, that's the same I don't get mad, I just take them off. Yeah, you just remove the problem easy, right? If you can't them, have somebody else come and remove them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have zero tolerance for all that stuff. But I mean we don't get that anymore. It's so ultra rare. But they did on the Houston-Nashville one.
Speaker 2:They diverted to Austin after a passenger created a disturbance on board Flight was met by the law. Ready for bracelets, yeah.
Speaker 1:They bring them, if ready for bracelets yeah, I mean you, they bring them if you divert, it is on like yes, now captain's made the decision, the whole entire crew's made the decision that you are getting off costing the airline a lot of money a lot of money a lot of time. You do some convenience to everybody.
Speaker 2:It's so stupid yeah, you know another thing stupid. What's that when you dump your coffee in the cockpit? Oh no, yep, chicago had happened on one of those A321 Neos. Yeah, yeah, right over the electronics.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:That's why the like I know all the, at least our airline like when we serve coffee they have to be served with lids, just for the point of like accidentally spilling and stuff over the you know avionics up there. But uh, yeah, that happens, it happens. I mean people like think about, like a coffee, you spill coffee on a laptop meant to toast on your iphone, right, I mean the iphones now are like.
Speaker 2:So like they're mostly you're still grabbing them.
Speaker 1:I mean, you're still grabbing them yeah, you're grabbing them because of the like we're remembering old days like if they did get wet, like you killed your iphone but, nowadays, like the iphones can.
Speaker 2:They can take a beating pretty much and splash right on there and uh, you're good to go but when you're a pilot and you're looking at the the coffee actually you know it was puddled up on electronics and then it disappeared you're not.
Speaker 1:That plane's not going anywhere for a while, not for a long time, for a long time.
Speaker 2:But hey, how about being this pilot, this Australian plane that was receiving a direct radio warning from a Chinese warship that was conducting live fire drills in the Tasman Sea?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that will pucker you up. I'm going to tell you right now I received something like that and I'm the pilot flying in close to their airspace. I'm definitely going to be obeying whatever they got to tell me.
Speaker 2:He replied if we go missing, you know what happened. That shit ain't funny.
Speaker 1:No, you know what?
Speaker 2:happened. Yeah, there's nothing, nothing funny about that. Get your ass out of that area yeah, get out, move divert quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I guess the um it also, like it, infected all these other aircraft too, so it wasn't just one one got it and they pass it on, and so everybody started like diverting.
Speaker 2:You don't even have to hear that one time, right? I mean, that little comment be like yeah, we want a diversion route, please.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, I'm going to tell you right now. There's some crazy countries out there, really yeah.
Speaker 2:A couple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some of them you want to take seriously, china being one that has a fake space station and you know what A couple. Yeah, some of them you want to take seriously, china being one that has a fake space station. And you know what? Guess what US as well? Yeah, we tell you the same thing.
Speaker 2:I'm sure some people are going to be Well, now we blow your shit up, so you better take it serious. Yeah, all right man. How about that flight attendant that he pled guilty to? He was he pled guilty to the charges, this dude, do you remember him? He was, um, he was found naked in the toilet. He was. He was high on drugs. Yeah, we talked about that right, he was just, he just pleaded guilty. Yeah, oh well, he was guilty, I know, but a lot of you know how they go naked boy they plead, they plead innocent, there's no question.
Speaker 2:Your own crew finds you naked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of stuff going on there. A lot of stupid stuff this week, right? Yeah, A lot of drug talk, Like these are all drug issues, Like people are like doing stupid shit because of drugs.
Speaker 2:It all started with one boat coming across from Venezuela. Get your ass blown up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, andy, we were talking about drugs and that's funny. This week I've talked about drugs a lot, like outside of this podcast, and like one of the things we were like talking about the other day I was talking about like remembering, you know, my youth and all this stuff and how drugs were dealt with back in the old days and stuff. And I don't know if, like, a lot of people probably don't know this, that listen to our podcast, but you know, if you were an alcoholic or a druggie back in, like, say, the seventies, like where did you go? You know where you went.
Speaker 2:I'm not a druggie.
Speaker 1:I understand, but where did we send them?
Speaker 2:What to rehab.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send them. What the rehab? Yeah, yeah. Did we send them in rehab in 70s? No, yeah, where did we send them? I don't know exactly. There was no fucking rehab, right, there wasn't. None of that. Stuff was even invented. Everybody went to the crazy house. Do you remember like the, the freaking one, flew over the kooking ass?
Speaker 2:yeah, that was everybody that was druggies well, that's like that's what the drugs did your brain right.
Speaker 1:So everybody it didn't matter if you were alcoholic or a drug like everybody went to a crazy house back in the day, like we didn't have, like you know, specialties, like broken down into like we do now, where you have drug rehab and alcohol rehab and you got all these different.
Speaker 2:You know, uh, ptsd, and you know like well, because after all those drugs, you're seeing flying pink elephants well, well, yeah, but my point is that we didn't have all this diversity of clinics.
Speaker 1:It was just one big pile of people going into it. It was amazing to me that we evolved in our medical solutions to breaking up. Now we have rehab centers and different stuff that we're grouping Second chance, so you're not in with an alcoholic that's not sitting right next to somebody.
Speaker 1:That's completely fucking crazy. You know like that's dangerous, you know so, which is kind of like one flew over the cuckoo's nest. If you haven't seen that movie, it's a great movie, but, um, that's how it was back then, but today different. But we kept talking about drugs this whole week. I don't know what that why we were at that subject was always up well again.
Speaker 2:It all started with I seen a video and finally in the united states, that they blew up a damn drug boat right instead of instead of bringing them and and and uh and put them in in a jail in the united states and us pay for their ass? We don't have to pay for that anymore so hey, listen, I listen. I hope you learned your lesson.
Speaker 1:I'm so tired of tax dollars paying for stupid stuff. Yep, all right, man, what's quoted day? So the quote is do something today that your future self will thank you for.
Speaker 2:Don't do drugs. Just say no just say no, man, because you could tell all this shit, today was not a good thing.
Speaker 1:Dubai girl. She wish she would have said.
Speaker 2:Isn't that kind of ironic Dubai right, yeah, she's bye.
Speaker 1:She's gone, yeah, bye-bye. She's the bye-bye girl, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, you guys don't do drugs, seriously don't all right. And and other people, don't bring them in our country, right?
Speaker 1:you know, all that shit is bad. Bad news they don't make good choices, yep all right guys.
Speaker 2:hey, we had a great time. You guys have a good week and we will see you next week on Cabin Pressure Next week. See you guys Later.
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