When Your Career Takes a Left Turn at Albuquerque

Ever wondered what happens when life takes you on a completely unexpected journey? In this anniversary episode of Cabin Pressure, Shawn and G reflect on their 54-episode milestone while exploring how neither of them ever imagined becoming flight attendants. Their candid conversation about career trajectories offers a refreshing reminder that it's perfectly okay not to have your entire life mapped out.

Shawn takes us into the fascinating world of artificial intelligence, explaining how AI agents will soon revolutionize our daily lives beyond what tools like ChatGPT currently offer. Meanwhile, G shares stories about encountering genuinely kind passengers, including a touching moment with a Vietnam veteran that provides perspective on the challenges previous generations faced.

The hosts don't hold back when addressing passenger behaviors that drive flight attendants crazy - from people who expect free upgrades to premium economy seats ("This ain't a bus!") to travelers who dangerously retrieve luggage during emergency evacuations. Their frustration with the FAA suggesting more evacuation training for flight attendants rather than holding passengers accountable speaks to broader issues in the industry.

Some of the episode's most enlightening moments come when they discuss airport security dynamics, explaining why flight crews sometimes need to cut in line and asking for passenger understanding. Their behind-the-scenes perspective on everything from airport food placement to the realities of in-flight evacuations gives listeners valuable insight into the aviation world.

Through humor and authentic conversation, Shawn and G remind us that persistence matters more than perfection. As they put it, "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop." Whether you're a frequent flyer, someone navigating career uncertainty, or just enjoy candid conversation, this episode delivers wisdom wrapped in laughter.

Chapters

• 0:38 Welcome to Cabin Pressure
• 1:30 The Deck Project Saga
• 8:01 AI Agents and Technology
• 17:41 Unexpected Career Trajectories
• 28:40 Airport Security Etiquette
• 34:22 Flight Evacuations and Baggage Issues
• 49:22 Problematic Passengers and Travel Tales
• 55:22 Spirit Airlines Layoffs and Final Thoughts

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

Do you have an AI agent? Why do flight crews get to cut in line with security? Take your headphones off, or you're not getting a drink. All this next on cabin pressure with Sean on MG.

SPEAKER_01: 0:38

Hey everyone, welcome. This is Cabin Pressure.

SPEAKER_00: 0:43

It's Sean. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_01: 0:48

Nothing, man.

SPEAKER_00: 0:49

What's going on with you? We are, dude. I am like I'm a chicken with its head cut off running around this freaking world right now. I got so much shit going on. Your deck's done, though. Yeah, my deck is done. No more pounding on episodes, so we ain't got nobody in the background and all that stuff. Everything should be cool and clean and he's got a sweet looking deck. Yeah. The deck turned out so nice. Although my wife doesn't seem like it's done yet.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18

Because we we talked about this in the other podcast.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21

Yeah. Like, like it's great. Like she sees this finished product and everything, and then she's looking at the structure underneath the deck. And so it's natural wood. And so now she's like, it doesn't look finished.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35

Remember, we talked about that every single time. It's like, hey, what'd you think about this? It looks good, but um, yeah, it is it's not finished.

SPEAKER_00: 1:44

Yeah. And I'm and she's like, well, everybody else has theirs painted, or everybody else has their that looks finished. Yeah. And I'm like, why does ours look like that? Yeah, I'm like, like, I'm building a maintenance-free deck.

SPEAKER_01: 1:58

And this thing is sweet. It really is.

SPEAKER_00: 2:00

You don't want to paint wood because what happens to paint on wood, it eventually peels and cracks, and you have to repaint it. And so I don't want any more maintenance for the rest of my life. And pressured wood, you don't have to do anything to it.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14

Yeah, but like the wash. Like I was telling her though, down a lot of times below decks. You know, people that have the decks that overlook on the ocean and everything. Yeah. So when you get it underneath it, it's it's rustic.

unknown: 2:25

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 2:25

I mean, all the decks underneath are natural wood, but normally like they're lower to the ground. But like ours, it's you know, a riser of a deck, like a first level.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35

So you still those, it's it's by water. You get your your uh your patio areas rustic looking. I think it looks just fine.

SPEAKER_00: 2:42

And that's what she looked at natural wood before, but she was like, Well, it was natural wood on top. So it matched. It's it's okay.

unknown: 2:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:52

You knew that was coming. Oh, dead. You knew it was coming. It's not gonna get painted. I bet you I bet you sometime we get she has you put a cap on it, though.

SPEAKER_00: 3:03

Maybe, who knows? I have no idea. But it does look really good. You know what I did? I was we went over to Indiana last week, and um one of uh the family friends over there, um, she used to come here like every year, and this weekend because the Ryder Cup's getting ready to happen. I mean, Ryder Cup is like a big deal in the family because we're all golfers and all that stuff. So we all watch this thing, and like last year I went to, or the last Ryder Cup that was in the US, I went to, which was four years ago or whatever. And it is so much fun, it's all like USA, like every it's what you want like America to be. Like you get there, and it doesn't matter what politics you got going on, everybody's for the US, you know, and it's like they're chanting U, S hey, you, you know, and then the Europeans are like ole, oh, yeah, you know, like it's crazy, you know. It's it's so much fun to watch, so you should watch it. But anyways, so this friend of mine that we visited, she's a hundred and two years old. Really? A hundred and two. I'm gonna show you the picture of her. She's like this little itty bitty thing, and bless her heart, she is the sweetest little thing. And at 102, she is able to like we can sit there and have a conversation with her. Um, you know, she's a little bit, you know, she has hearing aid, so she has a little hard time some hearing, and sometimes she doesn't like quite follow the whole thing, and she'll ask a question or whatever, but uh but for damn 102, dude? Yeah, me and you won't be here. No, no, no, we triple digits are not in our future. Nope. And if I was at her condition, like I'd be like, okay, to get there, I'm not bad, because she's like still living with her daughter and she's got a good you know quality of life and all that stuff, but she's got cancer for the second time. I think no for the third time in her life, and she's going through like radiation treatment right now at 102.

SPEAKER_01: 5:01

You know, do you ever think about that about getting older, right? Because we're we're getting there, we're heading that direction.

SPEAKER_00: 5:07

Yeah, we're all going in that direction.

SPEAKER_01: 5:09

So when you're you're thinking about it, you start thinking, hmm, how long do you actually want to be here?

SPEAKER_00: 5:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 5:14

As long as you can function, as long as I'm functioning, I I want to be here.

SPEAKER_00: 5:18

There's certain states because I've been around this so much lately, and like I, you know, God bless all the people out there that work with old people because old people are cool until you know humans get nasty in the end.

SPEAKER_01: 5:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 5:34

You know, we all turn into babies again. You're right back to somebody wiping your ass. You know, see, that's the part that I was saying. Exactly. Like it's like like there's like you get stinky again, you're like, you need to be cleaned up. Like it's just that's the part that I don't want to get to. And this lady right here, she's 102, and she's not there. Right. Like she's still doing her own thing. Yeah, it's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_01: 5:56

But you go to a lot of these homes, though, and there's no guys.

SPEAKER_00: 5:59

Yeah, there's very few guys. They're dead. It's all mo mainly women. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 6:05

So it's we're not making 102.

SPEAKER_00: 6:08

No, 101 ain't happening. But speaking on the other spectrum of age, my niece, we went out there and uh it was her birthday, and uh shout out to Reagan. She's she didn't she's never gonna be watching, listen, in our show. Uh, these are this is too adult. But uh we took her to this like indoor amusement park and everything, and we got there and she's running around the place and having a great time. And we take her in the she's in this like jumble gym thing that they you know climb around and all this stuff. Next thing you know, we look up and she's like laying in like this area that's like a net area, and she's like like going to sleep. And we're like, what's up with Reagan? Like, that's not right. And so she's like her mom's like, okay, blah, blah, blah, get down here, let's let's talk. And ends up, she wasn't feeling well, and they take her to the urgy care right away because the next day is like this big birthday she's having with all the kids are coming and all this stuff. Ends up she's got strep throat. Dude. Do you know how many times Jackson got strep throat?

SPEAKER_01: 7:06

When they get to a certain age, it's like it's like every other week they get that shit.

SPEAKER_00: 7:11

It was unbelievable. And then next day at her party, she got hoarse and all this stuff, and you know, they got her antibiotics, and they it was okay for her to be around kids and stuff, but when the when the kids that are a certain age, right?

SPEAKER_01: 7:24

They I'm I'm telling you, to get to school, they'll catch everything.

SPEAKER_00: 7:27

Yeah, everything they're little they're little germ bugs, exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 7:30

They but their immune system builds from it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:33

So I mean it's not bad. It's important to for all that stuff to happen to build your immune system, but uh yeah, and these kids are always sick, but it was a it was a good time. We had a good time at the thing, and she came back, literally went to the clinic, came back, and as soon as he gave that antibiotics and a little bit of probably Tylenol or something like that, she was like, she was running around the place again, you know, like it was crazy. Anyways, man, I I'm you know, I'm still going to school, and um, I've been studying all this AI stuff. I mean, I'm and when I say studying AI, I'm talking about I have a whole list of AI things that people probably have never way beyond chat GPT, way beyond like uh Gemini. Like, there's all kinds of AI engines out there in the universe that we are unaware of. Most people are unaware of. And each one does something different. And we got to talking about like this whole class is about career trajectory, and so you are trying to figure out where you are gonna go. And so I got to thinking about this, and I was like, you know what? What was G's career trajectory? Like, what where where did he see himself when he was 20 years old? Me?

unknown: 9:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 9:52

Well, when I went to school, uh first started off with uh marketing and advertising because I was always good in sales. Right. So anything with sales, I was good with so I started off that and then I got bored with school. Right. I did. I mean, I I can honestly say I got bored with school and and I realized that uh it wasn't for me. And and I went out and I was like started uh heading out in the world, man. And after that, but did you have like a goal?

SPEAKER_00: 10:17

Like, did you have like like thinking like initially, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 10:20

Initially I did.

SPEAKER_00: 10:21

So what was that goal?

SPEAKER_01: 10:22

It was it was getting to the really same thing. Go out, get a good job uh from your education, and then uh and then just build a future. That was it. I don't think really, you know, I when you're younger, I don't I don't think anybody really puts you on a path, right?

SPEAKER_00: 10:38

Some some kids do, but well, I mean, like so so some kids, you know, we always like the classic thing, you know, what do you want to grow up to be at? I want to be a nurse, I want to be a doctor, I want to be a dentist, you know, it was none of that. That's that's what my question is. Like, did you have like there was actually a goal? And so I'm listening to all these people in the class that I'm in, and they're talking about you know what they would like to do. But the interesting thing about life is this everybody that's on this path, no matter if you wanted to be like a dentist or a doctor or you know, a lawyer or whatever you wanted to be, and life might not take you there. You know, there's very few people that I know that have like started off as an I'm gonna be this and actually does it. There's a there's there's people there's people that do it, but but life takes you in all this wild rides.

SPEAKER_01: 11:27

Yeah, I took I took the left turn at Albuquerque, by the way. I mean, so trust me.

SPEAKER_00: 11:32

I know you're sitting here with me. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01: 11:35

But you know, going back, I mean, when I think of everything where I was at in school, right? And then I just one day I I'm not kidding. I came home. I I think I had like 670 some dollars to my name.

SPEAKER_00: 11:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 11:47

I packed my shit up. I had used to have a little 76 Camaro. Remember those little fastback ones?

SPEAKER_00: 11:52

Cool.

SPEAKER_01: 11:52

I packed that shit up. I had an old waterbed, took that down, and and I told my mom I was moving to Florida. There you go. She thought I was kidding. I was like, no, I just and I had no idea where I was gonna live, had no really no money. I just packed the shit up. I knew I knew college wasn't for me anymore, so I just packed it up and I drove that shit down to Florida.

SPEAKER_00: 12:11

Ended up in Clearwater, Florida. That's amazing. See, and that and you know, like, so I would have never in my wildest dreams ever thought I'd be a flight attendant. No, that me neither. Like, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, our career trajectory is not wasn't like I didn't even dream about this job, I didn't even think about the job, the job wasn't even on my radar. Right. But life took us to this password, boom, here we are, and we've we both put in 30 plus years of doing this job, and it's just it's just wild to like kind of think back. But here's my point to the thing is that listen, if you're listening to this and you're thinking about, you know, you're young and you're trying to do your job and you're trying to figure out what I want to do in the future and everything. Well, guess what? It's okay not to know.

SPEAKER_01: 12:58

We don't know shit.

SPEAKER_00: 12:59

Yeah, we don't know. Yeah, it's okay not to know.

SPEAKER_01: 13:02

It is, it really is.

SPEAKER_00: 13:03

Because you're gonna fail, you know. Have you been fired from a job ever, G? No. I got fired from a job before. Like it's gonna happen. Like it's it's you the best part about the the thing is is all about you actually recovering. You actually be able to get back on that horse again, get out there and prove yourself. It's your work ethic.

SPEAKER_01: 13:28

You you can you can go um you you can go and you can fail a thousand times, right? So long as you get up a thousand and one. Right. That's all that matters. Because exactly what you're saying. I mean, I I joked around when I said left turn out Albuquerque, but it's true because I I when I when I decided to leave, I'm like, okay, I I already had to pay for this some of the education. Right. And then I just packed up and I left, and and next thing I know, I'm down there, and I was down in Clearwater, and and next thing you know, I am at a construction site getting a job, working on a a building frame in a building in like a week. Right. And that was it. And then I started doing that, waiting tables, and then um, yeah, how how I end up being a damn flight attendant, it all it all came down to they told me there'd be a bunch of girls there.

SPEAKER_00: 14:17

Really? And so you just decided I'm gonna apply for this? Yeah. There you go. Dude, hey, they were right. That is what life is about. I mean, you don't know where life's gonna take you, and I will tell everyone out there that it doesn't really matter where what's happening, you're gonna uh you're gonna have those ups and your downs and everything. God's got a mission for you. Yep. Okay, and that trajectory is gonna happen no matter if you like it or not, you know? And so you need to just, you know, keep going.

SPEAKER_01: 14:50

A year before we started doing this, we had never done this before. You know, this is so a far out of the our especially my spectrum.

SPEAKER_00: 14:58

Nah, this is way out of your wheelhouse. I mean, the the technology part for me is like, yeah, that's uh that's not out of my spectrum, but it's like I know G was like before we started doing this whole thing, G had like been talking to me for two years about G will talk to me about all kinds of shit. Like, we we should do this and we should do that. He's an idea guy, he comes up with the ideas and all this stuff, but he doesn't like to execute all the time, and so he was talking about this. We need to do this, we need to do this, we should go into business doing this, we should be doing, but podcasts are always coming up, and finally I was like, shitter give it off the pot. We need to do this. You put your money where your mouth is, and let's make it happen.

SPEAKER_01: 15:41

But what he forgot to tell you too is years ago when he sits there and says, I got all these ideas. Let me tell you something. I'm I might have these ideas, but anytime that me and him did something together, what happened?

SPEAKER_00: 15:52

We we did it well and succeeded, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 15:54

We succeeded at it.

SPEAKER_00: 15:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 15:56

And it's just like this when we knew when we were starting this, we knew we we didn't know what the hell we were doing. Yeah, right? No, and all we knew is that we were gonna get we're gonna get better.

SPEAKER_00: 16:04

Yeah, we're gonna work at it. We're gonna get better and we're gonna work at it.

SPEAKER_01: 16:07

So your trajectory is is you're right. It doesn't matter where you start, it only matters where you finish up.

SPEAKER_00: 16:13

Yeah, where well matters it also the journey matters of you to not give up. Yeah, just continue to try to do, and you're gonna get kicked and fall down and all that stuff, and life's gonna take you in different places, but give back on that horse and keep going. Anyhow, the other part of this class I'm taking was really interesting because there's something out there that is happening in the world that people don't really understand that's happening so fast and it's gonna hit us like a storm. And that is have you ever heard of AI agents? No. So AI agents are what you would call a an electronic personal helper. And it's coming. And they're and and the closest example I could tell you right now is like a Surrey.

SPEAKER_01: 17:06

I was gonna say, just like a Surrey, right? Right, right.

SPEAKER_00: 17:09

But you we're gonna have this in in abundance here coming soon. Like this is this is just happening. The Lexas, the Surreys, and many more to come, people are gonna have their own assistance with AIs where I can go in there and literally I could give a whole task of stuff to do. Surrey. I need this bill paid, I need this done, I need XYZ, you know, I need you know, make sure you turn on the um the water sprinklers, make you do all that shit's getting ready to come in. It's gonna be a crazy, crazy world. But people are getting these things called AI agents, which is like your own personal Surrey. Pretty wild, right?

SPEAKER_01: 17:51

What do you think about that? I want to get you the AI agent that goes, do it your damn self, Sean. Right? I could imagine you give this all like, hey, you know, do this, do this, do this. Are you gonna do anything? I don't need a sarcastic AI agent. Remember, you don't know Jack? Yeah, you don't know Jack. I was like, I'm sitting there thinking, give a smart ass AI agent would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_00: 18:13

Right. It had the you don't know Jack uh attitude type of thing. Exactly. Give these like wise cracks and stuff like that. But yeah, the the interesting thing is that like they we started talking about this whole thing, and um there's so much stuff out there with AI right now, and people are like really like and I'm I'm scared that these kids are really buying into it because they they latch onto it, and what happens is the um like Chat GPT, right? They're going in there and they're they'll like do their homework with it, right? And they just cut and paste and put it in there and they shouldn't be using it that way. It's okay to use Chat GPT to like look up and use it as kind of like a source of information, but the problem with Chat GPT right now is that he's like, you know that friend that you had or somebody that you encounter in your life, and no matter what you ask them, they're gonna come up with an answer, right? And they're just gonna give you a bullshit answer. And you don't know if it's bullshit, but they're just like they're playing it.

SPEAKER_01: 19:13

Adjust it a little bit.

SPEAKER_00: 19:13

Well, guess what? AI does that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 19:16

Well, especially if it depends on how you're asking it. Right. Right? I mean, because I mean that that's what I found out with AI too. It's how you ask something.

SPEAKER_00: 19:24

Yeah. The prompting of AI is the most important, and what you're gonna find is that people are gonna become expert prompters, right? Understanding how to guide these AI agents to get you to do the correct things, and it's really cool. The more you practice at it, and more you do it, it does do a lot of cool stuff. But there's a lot of deep fake shit out there, and so what's happening is and it's wild, like we were doing this whole exercise where we're using the one and they were creating videos. So I like had them do this whole thing about creating an intro for our show, and so next thing you know, it was like this Pixar show, and this guy's like carrying around a plane on his shoulder. It was a weird thing, and then all the like in all the writing in the in the video was looked like it was like in like uh like Soviet Union or something like that. It was it didn't look like English, it was like a few letters looking like it was English context, but rest of it was all gibberish, and that's what AI is not good at right now. They can't like you can put that say this on the sign and it will misspell it. Like the the first thing they were really bad about is like making pictures of humans or anybody, and you're like, oh, make a family holding uh, you know, you know, all at a picnic, and then you'd see the family there, and like half of them would have like six fingers.

SPEAKER_01: 20:41

But you know, that's the AI that's available to us. True. I mean, there there's a lot of AI that we don't we don't have this.

SPEAKER_00: 20:48

Well, AI, that's why I was back to the beginning where I'm like, there's all these different AI engines, right? And yeah, there's ones that are specific to other um levels of you know experimentation and stuff, but there's so many more, like there's the public agents that are out there. Uh it's unbelievable. Yeah, it's like they're you if you start looking and you start Googling and finding out how many AI agents are there, or how many AI uh platforms are there, and ones that do different things, they're very specific on what they can do. Like, there's ones that do just specifically coding, or there's ones that do just art, and there's one that just does writing, you know, like so you have to like plug into the right one. Chat GPT is is the one that's kind of like a kind of general overall, but it's super interesting. I mean, I can go on and on talking about AI stuff, but that's what I've been doing, man.

SPEAKER_01: 21:38

It's a lot of fun, though. I mean, you know, all that new technology is a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00: 21:41

Yeah, you know what? Uh before we before we go on, you know what? It's our anniversary. Yeah, I know. Last week was our anniversary.

SPEAKER_01: 21:49

We kind of missed it. We missed it. You missed our anniversary, Sean.

SPEAKER_00: 21:51

Now I know we're so wound up. I'm leaving. Yeah. Well, hey, me and my wife, we we're almost the same way. Sometimes you wake up and did I miss it? Did was it like how many years was it? Has it been?

SPEAKER_01: 22:04

Well, we just get used to coming in here and just sitting down and talking.

SPEAKER_00: 22:07

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 22:08

So, I mean, we really didn't think about the anniversary.

SPEAKER_00: 22:10

No, but you know what? To to our um accolades, 54 episodes is in the books. We did every week. We committed to doing this show, and no matter what, we always we we we made the mark, right?

SPEAKER_01: 22:27

And we're coming up on 7,500 downloads, right?

SPEAKER_00: 22:30

That's getting ready to happen in any day. That's that is like it's going good.

SPEAKER_01: 22:34

It's gonna be fun when it's gonna be. I'm looking forward to video. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. They'll be able to see our reactions, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:39

They'll be able to see our knuckleheads. Yeah, hopefully we're not the ugly guys behind the voice on radio. Oh, you ugly.

unknown: 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:51

Have you ever done that like on a radio station? You get talking to a show, you know, listen to a show. Yeah, you're like, that guy's got to be. And you're like, you're like, man, I wonder what these people look like. And you look them up and you're like, Oh, damn. Damn. Like he looks like one of the monsters on Monsters Inc.

SPEAKER_01: 23:04

I'm not even listening anymore. Yeah, hopefully that's not us.

SPEAKER_00: 23:09

It's like the uh nerdiest dude that has the coolest, deepest voice.

SPEAKER_01: 23:12

They'll be like, Yeah, go back to audio.

SPEAKER_00: 23:14

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Video's not for you, but I hope we're not that way, but we'll see. Doesn't matter, we're gonna throw it at him.

SPEAKER_01: 23:23

Well, happy anniversary.

SPEAKER_00: 23:24

Yeah, happy anniversary, G. Anyhow, gee man, what have you been doing?

SPEAKER_01: 23:29

All right, just gonna talk a little bit about a Yorkie's love. You guys know that I have a Yorkie. Well, Gemma is has been the last week, oh my gosh, she has been probably three o'clock in the morning. She gets this wild hair, and she has all this love that she wants to give. So she'll crawl up on my neck, starts rubbing on me, wants me to rub her. She does this for like 15 minutes. Now, if you know my relationship with that little dog is this now, the rest of the 23 hours and 45 minutes of the day, she will not let me pick her ass up. Really?

SPEAKER_00: 24:08

Oh, so she's like, she's like, oh, let me give some love. Pops, what how you uh you're so nice to me. Thank you for so much for making me my food. Yeah, exactly. And all this stuff. All right.

SPEAKER_01: 24:21

You've never seen I'm I'm true. You've now away from me, Jimmy. You have not seen anything like it. As soon as she gets her 15, 20 minutes in, she'll go back and then she'll lay down. Now, for the rest of the 23 hours and 45 minutes, she'll look at me and she'll all she wants to do is play. Get a damn ball, get a rope, whatever it is, whatever it is, she gets this thing, and then we play tug of war, and then she will come at me like a damn little doberman. But for those 15 or 20 minutes, that she does it at 3 o'clock in the morning. Oh no. At 3 a.m. No, you can't, and you can't get mad. You can't. No, you can't.

SPEAKER_00: 24:54

I you know something I might have like an involuntary reaction of like flicking my arm and she goes flying across the room. Jimmy ain't nothing but like the size of a lot of baseball.

SPEAKER_01: 25:04

No, I can't get mad, man. I I actually appreciate that that 15 or 20 minutes of her little love. And then I'm like, okay, it's back to normal. There she is. Yeah, but no, and then this week I had this um this elderly couple. They came on the plane. Um, he was a Vietnam vet, and uh, and this woman, I had taken him down to Lauderdale. They went on a um a cruise on Celebrity, and what a nice couple. I mean, it's so refreshing when you get these people that are so sweet, and they're elderly, you know, they appreciate every little thing that you do. And I walked her, we we walked uh hand in hand because they didn't have the wheelchair, and um, you know, her husband was put in the wheelchair and he was a Vietnam vet, and we walked up and we were just talking. It's so nice, you know, talking to these elderly people. There's such so many wonderful people in the world. And, you know, and you look at him, you think of how many years and what they went through. And you think of him too, right? Because he was he was a he was a black gentleman, but you know, and you think, what was it like for him in Vietnam? You know, being back in a war, I mean, you really, I mean, you think about that. I mean, and and I think about when he was young going back and and being sent to Vietnam.

SPEAKER_00: 26:14

Think about think about this, but like you're a young um teenager that um you get thrown into a cesspool of humans coming from all walks of life, and there is a huge faction of people there that hate you just because of the color of your skin. Right. Okay, and you have to are forced to get along with them because this is the guy that's protecting your back.

SPEAKER_02: 26:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 26:44

You know, and you know, in the military one, you know, racism and all that stuff goes out the window real quick because when you start thinking about life and death, and you know, the only way I'm gonna survive is with the guy next to me. Right. Like that that's some that's some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01: 27:02

And that's exactly what I was thinking about, is like what he went through back back then in Vietnam. And this guy was incredible. And then his wife was so she was so warm, and and you know, and and like I said, we gave a little hug and uh and then they went on your way. But then the other part that that pisses me off is like, you know, when you get these um these wheelchair people, they don't shouldn't show up.

unknown: 27:25

Right?

SPEAKER_01: 27:26

The wheelchair helpers? Yeah, they don't show up. Yeah, you get like one or two of them, and then you got these elderly people you want to you wanna help them out, but then they they don't show up.

SPEAKER_00: 27:34

Yeah, that's the wor that's the worst when you have to have a uh you have to wait. Right. You know, like you're waiting for some of the assistance when we know we're scheduled and all that stuff. And you know, today's technology, like all that stuff is fed. We know it's all ahead of time and they know exactly what it is. We got readouts and all this stuff. It's in everybody's computers, but nobody shows up.

SPEAKER_01: 27:54

Right. And I'm touching on this uh one again because again, happened in the terminal uh again this week. You guys, when you're talking on your phones and you're walking, pay attention because look somebody not step out of the way. Damn, you know, it's like you're I'm behind them. I'm trying to, you know how you try to shoot the gap. Right. And you see them, they're walking at an angle, and then they walk right into you and they act like it was your fault.

SPEAKER_00: 28:18

Dude.

SPEAKER_01: 28:18

It it it just it's just irritating.

SPEAKER_00: 28:21

I know. Well, you know, you don't even have to be on the phone. You have those people with those crooked walkers, right? But these guys were on the phone crooked walking. Like they they literally like they have a like their their walk canceled to the left a little bit, and they just keep on sliding and sliding and sliding, and you're trying to walk right around them, and you're getting wider and wider and wider. You're like a tractor beam.

SPEAKER_01: 28:42

Right. It's like a tractor beam, it's like they're coming right at you. Unbelievable, man. But you know, this week, this week had to talk about this. Did you do you uh you've noticed that there's been a lot more evacuations? Yeah, oh yeah. Okay, that's been going on in the industry, all over the world. Right. But you the plane evacuations, I mean, it's gone up quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00: 29:01

Dude, this isn't this is the crazy thing. The um you uh, you know, it can happen at any time. Like yesterday, like yesterday, well like today. I flew today, went down to uh we where did I go today? Oh, I did a triangle today. I'm so I get so tired I can't even remember what I did today.

SPEAKER_01: 29:20

You had to work. Yeah, I had to actually work.

SPEAKER_00: 29:22

I got up at 2 45 this morning and I flew over to Dallas and down to Orlando and back up to Cleveland. And then um the day before, though, we hit some turbulence, man. You've been have you been having turbulence? Quite a bit. But we were floating, dude. Yeah, and float for a while. Like I was like, we were hitting it, and all of a sudden it was like, whoa, and I'm like, okay, done. I'm done. Strap in. I'm out. I'm strapping in. I'm like, as soon as we start getting that floating sensation, I'm gonna be sitting down for sure. Like, you don't even want to be there to that situation. But it was, you know, people still know seat belts and passing and stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 30:05

But but what's been going on in the last uh the last couple weeks is that they've been having a lot of evacuations, emergencies that are on airplanes having to evacuate could be smoke in the cabin, could be fire, could be uh any uh any reason of of of uh evacuations. But what that what killed me was the FAA came out and they they were basically saying that they they wanted the airlines to give the flight attendants more training on evacuations.

SPEAKER_00: 30:35

I'm just saying right now, just for every flight attendant in the world, that's some bullshit. That's bullshit.

SPEAKER_01: 30:40

That's big bullshit because we're we're we're trained, we're trained on evacuations.

SPEAKER_00: 30:44

We evacuate the shit out of airplanes. We know what we're doing. Right. The problem is that all everybody and all the pastors out there, they choose not to do that. And it and and also here it is there's a human reaction factor in that. I mean, we don't know where everybody comes from back comes from, but Your valuables, whatever you consider your valuables, are the things that you're gonna grab trying to leave anywhere, right? That's just uh that's just normal. But I mean, to blame that on the flight attendants and that we need more training to like get them to not do it, I mean, I get literally I haven't had to evacuate a plane, but I could see myself literally somebody coming around the corner with a bag and me throwing the bag right out the door and pushing them out the fucking door. Oh, yeah. Like get dude, you're impeding the bag.

SPEAKER_01: 31:34

But you know, even even doing that though, Sean, right, the trying to trying to grab a bag away from someone in the process of evacuation, right? You know, slowing everything down. You're you're just getting their ass out of that plane, even if if they got the bag, they're going with it. Right. Because it doesn't matter at that point. Truthfully, if if that person has it, what what happens is the timing that it takes them to get the bag out of the overhead bin, which blocks other impedes other people from getting off the aircraft. So the the evacuation time is slower. So what they're doing is that they're seeing that the evacuation time is slower, but that's internally. That's inside the airplane.

SPEAKER_00: 32:11

Yeah, you can't stop them. The cascade of like the slowdown of traffic, the people that are at the very end of the ones are the ones that suffer from the bigger.

SPEAKER_01: 32:19

You can't stop them. You can't do but by the time they get to us at the door, by the time they get to us at the door, they're going out with the bag. Oh, yeah, they're gonna go out with the bag no matter what. Because if we pull that bag, all we're gonna have is a bunch of freaking bags sticking at the door, blocking an exit, and you know who they're gonna blame at that point. Yeah, that would be us. Yeah, exactly. So your ass is going out with the bag. So that's what was killing me, though, when I was reading this, and the FAA was saying that the flight attendants need more training. No, it doesn't. What it is is that if there's a video, if there's a video and they have a clear shot of your face getting off with a bag, you should get fined.

SPEAKER_00: 32:53

You should find them.

SPEAKER_01: 32:54

Yeah, because you just jeopardize the lives of everybody else on the airplane that if the emergency happens, you agreed to leave that damn bag and get your ass off the plane.

SPEAKER_00: 33:02

And that's the approach that FAA should take in into the whole thing, because if they start finding people when they're having these evacuations, because they they always come from the the point of like trauma. So, like, oh, they just went through this whole trauma, we're not gonna do give more trauma to them, but they're violating one of the rules that they've made. And if they don't enforce those rules, it's gonna continue to happen. But as soon as they start hearing, oh, you know, this plane evacuated, and 50 passengers got fined for taking bags off the plane, right? Impeding traffic and everything, but you know, etc. That's how they enforce it, not not by retraining us. Like we're doing and we know what to do. You know, but we you can't force somebody to do something. We're not enforcers, we're informers.

SPEAKER_01: 33:49

Yeah, and then during an evacuation, if you really think about it logically, if the person in the last row tries to get their bag, and the person in the first row tries to get their bag, right? You just 20 25 seconds of evacuation, you just impeded that, right?

SPEAKER_00: 34:04

Well, one of the biggest uh if you look in the history of like evacuations and stuff, and one of the that collision that happened with the two aircrafts that caught on fire out in LA, that and this is long, long time ago, and that was one a perfect example of what had happened. And the per they had a confrontation in the cabin trying to get out, and they were fighting to try to get past each other and all that stuff, and they delayed the the evacuation in this plane on fire for just I think it I want to recall, it was like like five seconds. That five seconds cost like 13 people their lives. Right. Because they couldn't get out of the exit, they were blocking the exit because they were arguing over it. Right, you know, exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 34:48

And it's all internal, it's not the flight attendants are at at both ends of the airplane, uh gonna evacuate the airplane. Okay, you have got to look at if these guys get off the plane and they have their bag, if they have their bag, then you you find them exactly that. And then and that will take care of it. Don't don't put that back on the flight attendants because that's not that's not us. Because when we go to training, trust me, we evacuate planes.

SPEAKER_00: 35:13

Right. We and we don't train with bags. No, like we had our bags on there too. Like there, there's a bags on there. I've never heard of a plane, a flight attendant going back and getting their bags. You know, like they're never ever in history, right? You've never seen that. The flight attendant gets off the plane, if they're gonna get off the plane with something, gone. Only thing we take off that plane is what? Safety equipment. Yeah, right? We go, we need equipment for whatever situation we're in. I'm going into water, hey, we're gonna we might need to go back and get the raft. Right. You know, we might need to go back and get the megaphone or the transmitters and things like that. That's the only thing.

SPEAKER_01: 35:48

Land evacuation, the only thing I'm gonna grab, you're gonna grab, is a megaphone. That's the only thing. Yeah. I'm grabbing a megaphone, that's it. But you know, what they were saying, I just think it was bullshit because you need to go after the people that are actually taking the bags because they're the ones that that are impeding the evacuation. Once they get to the flight attendant at the door, your ass is going out the door.

SPEAKER_00: 36:07

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01: 36:07

Reevaluate that.

SPEAKER_00: 36:08

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 36:09

Yeah, you you just need to think about that one because I think that you're wrong on that one. Sure. But I was flying with this dude this past week. He was so damn funny. And and we were talking about uh Blake. Black. You know what his name was? What's that? A A Ron. His was A A Ron. A A Ron. That was his name. He was A A Ron. A A Ron. He was getting the biggest kick out of that. I was calling him A. A A Ron. He's from Trinidad. Oh, yeah. Did you have an accent? He does a little bit. But you know, he was he was he was really cool. I I liked flying with him. We we were getting into these long conversations. He had been flying about two years, and uh, we were talking about things about uh, you know, contract negotiations and stuff like that. And uh and then he he got into this conversation about you know what he did before? No, he worked um redoing cell towers. Redoing, like reconditioning or updating? Updating. So he would go up anywhere from there they're like smaller ones 150 feet, and then the larger ones 300 feet. Now, could you imagine okay? Could you imagine gr climbing up 300 feet to a cell tower in Cleveland in the middle of winter time?

SPEAKER_00: 37:26

There's no way it's it's like those guys that like uh put together those windmills and stuff, you know, like all that height stuff for me. I mean, there's all these safety precautions and you're strapped in and all that stuff, but regardless, man.

SPEAKER_01: 37:39

I'm talking about the freaking freezing cold. Could you imagine? Do you remember a Christmas story?

SPEAKER_00: 37:44

I don't do good and cold.

SPEAKER_01: 37:45

Could you imagine being up there at Christmas door? Well, I asked him, I was like, okay, so you're 300 feet up. It's the middle winter time in Cleveland. What do you do when you got pee? He goes, he starts laughing. He was like, he goes, Well, um, well, sometimes you just got to go in a bottle. And I'm at 300 feet. At 300 feet? Freezing cold?

SPEAKER_00: 38:16

Yeah. No, he was pissing in the wind. That's what he was doing. Somebody down below somewhere was like, damn, is it raining?

SPEAKER_01: 38:24

Okay, so yeah, rain. Now imagine it pouring down a sheet and rain 300 feet up there. Now imagine that it's blistering hot, 100 degrees. No. Sitting out there. So we we started talking, we we started talking about the difference in the job now. Because I I always said, as being a flight attendant, if it as at work, right, if you are working 15% of your day, 85% of your day, you're kind of just like, you know, checking on people. Yeah right? But 15% of your day, you're working hard, you're you're you're actually out there, and the rest of the time, you're basically it's a maintenance program on a flight, right? Safety, maintenance, everything like that. Yeah. And I told him, I said, Did you did you do that on the cell tower? He was like, Oh, hell no. And I was like, then don't complain. Yeah, don't complain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 39:11

Look at where you could be.

SPEAKER_01: 39:12

Don't complain because you know, here, here as a flight attendant, if you're good at your job, you're only working like 15, 20% of your day.

SPEAKER_00: 39:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 39:20

You know that.

SPEAKER_00: 39:21

His career trajectory um was a good change. Yeah, no more peeing in the wind. No more sliding down, climbing down poles to go poop.

SPEAKER_01: 39:31

I did ask him that one too. And he was like, oh no, you gotta come down.

SPEAKER_00: 39:35

You got you gotta come down for that one. Right. No number twos. No number twos at altitude. Nope. But see, in our job, we can do that. Yeah. A mile up. Right. At least. That's bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 39:51

So you know what I noticed too coming through uh security all the time in different airports? You know it's always on the outside there. Outside? Yeah, like when you come through security. Do you ever notice like the the types of um little shops that they have right at right outside of security?

SPEAKER_00: 40:09

No.

SPEAKER_01: 40:09

All unhealthy shit. Oh. Yeah. It is. You come through there, and the first thing you get hit is like the smell of Cinnabon.

SPEAKER_00: 40:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 40:17

Right? Or you get like Annie M's press.

SPEAKER_00: 40:20

So you're talking about going through security and from once we get into the airport, like what the airport, it's normally like you're going getting released into like a food court or something like that, and most of the airport, a lot of the airports.

SPEAKER_01: 40:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 40:30

You come in. It's all shit food.

SPEAKER_01: 40:32

It's all shit food. As soon as you come in, it's like that. You remember how they used to do the popcorn? They blow the smell of popcorn in the theaters. Yeah. And then so you walk through security, and the first thing that you do is like you smell Cinnabon. Over there, there's Dunkin' Donuts. And then so you get sugar, right? You get sugar, and then their coffee is, you know, have you ever had their coffee? Cinnabons? No. Oh, Dunkin' Donuts, yeah. Okay, so the cream and sugar.

SPEAKER_00: 40:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 40:58

So you get sugar on top of sugar, right?

SPEAKER_00: 41:01

With sugar. And healthy. Healthy. I'm just I don't think anybody going there is saying, can I get a healthy cup of Joe?

SPEAKER_01: 41:13

No, but it's like that everywhere. I was walking through this uh this airport the other day. Smash burger.

SPEAKER_00: 41:19

Yeah. All of the all the plants, you know what? Like all the food. First of all, we're Americans and we are in these this death trap right now of terrible fast food, right? Like fast food is everywhere. Like here in our city, they got in our little tiny town, north, south, and east, on every road leaving out of the city, there's a taco bell. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah. Like, how many taco bells do you need in one little tiny town? You know, there's two, there's three McDonald's on each one of those exits as well. Do you still eat Taco Bell? Dude, I can't, man.

SPEAKER_01: 42:03

I don't even think that's real. That shit is not good.

SPEAKER_00: 42:06

I'm serious. Like, before I before I do a colonoscopy, I just go to Taco Bell. That's true. This shit will clean you out. Oh, dude. And when I was young and stuff, it was like it. I guess my stomach could take that. But now that I'm old, man, it's like literally, it's like everything that goes in is coming out south. Yeah, it should be like it's going south. Yeah. Taco Marillax or something like it. It's going south. Burrito marillax. Something. Terrible.

SPEAKER_01: 42:37

I was going through TSA the other day. And um, you know, this other thing, you guys as passengers, don't get mad at the at the TSA agent when your ass comes into the pre-check line and you're you're not uh pre-check. Yeah, you're not don't get mad at him.

SPEAKER_00: 42:52

I'm just I just want to say don't get mad at him because it cacks me up that people do that. Yeah, they do that all the time. Like, what? I have to walk to this other security. Well, you don't got a membership. Exactly. You're in the short line. There's a reason why it's short. Yeah, all these people paid to get the membership, you didn't pay. Right. Yeah. And then just because you're confused and went in the wrong entrance doesn't mean you get to come in. Okay, now I'm gonna follow up on that.

SPEAKER_01: 43:17

Now, in pre-check, okay, in pre-check, if you wonder why that flight attendant and those crews are cutting in security line. If you wonder why, yeah, because you know you get the attitude. You sure I got it just the other day, and and I know I I get it. You're you're pissed, you had to stand there, but this is our job. And the only reason, the only reason that we are there is because we got random. Yep, and that happens. So we we try to go through known crew member, but what happens is just like everyone else, we get random, and we get random, we have to go through through security, and they give us a right to cut in line. And we and we we want to do it fast. Yeah, we don't want to be mean.

SPEAKER_00: 43:59

Can you imagine having this job? Like we didn't have those rights. Nope. And then we had to go and come to work every day. Every flight would be late. We didn't know what how long the lines are that day, or what's happening, or how the volume of pastures we're gonna have that day. And we get there and we had to wait in like an hour, hour and a half line, three hours, whatever. Like, can you imagine how many planes would be delayed?

SPEAKER_01: 44:27

Tell you, I mean, just what um the other day, a couple of the pilots uh were in the um there was an accident on 71. They were they were backed up in 71. Yeah, flight was delayed an hour and a half. So if you think that that's bad, you put flat one flight attendant at the front of security, one in the middle, and one in the back with the pilots in the back, your ass ain't going nowhere.

SPEAKER_00: 44:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 44:49

Right? So just don't get mad. I mean, we're not doing it because we're we're trying to be rude.

SPEAKER_00: 44:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 44:54

It's just that we gotta get we gotta get to the plane, we gotta get there and get shit done so you guys can uh so these planes can get out on time.

SPEAKER_00: 45:01

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 45:01

So just don't get mad. I mean, that I just caught a little bit of an attitude this last week. That's all right. I catch it every once in a while.

SPEAKER_00: 45:08

Uh well, you don't you don't ever give them that big, you know, you walk up to them and like, excuse me. You know, like hello, um, crew.

SPEAKER_01: 45:17

No, stand back. You don't give them that? No, I give them, hey, hey guys, I'm sorry, but I have to jump in there. Are you okay with that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's fine. Right? And they're like, they look there, and then the one is like, I don't say anything.

SPEAKER_00: 45:30

I kind of just give them an elbow. Do you? Well, you know, when I want to. That's the only time I can get them. Get them when you can.

SPEAKER_01: 45:39

We're not being mean. No. Except Sean.

SPEAKER_00: 45:42

Sean give you the elbow. We don't do that shit. We go in there, we ask Lightly, uh, maybe step in, you know, and most people are cooperative, but every now and then.

SPEAKER_01: 45:50

That's your crew elbow.

SPEAKER_00: 45:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 45:52

So so anyway, let's go around the glow up. Okay. So I was I was uh reading this article and they were talking about, and I thought this was kind of funny. They were saying that the major cruise lines suspended the Carambean destination. Now, and the reason why that they suspended this, I'm gonna go a little bit further with this, but the reason why they suspended it is because of safety concerns about kidnappings. So they stopped to the private port of Haiti.

SPEAKER_00: 46:22

Haiti. So wait a minute, wait a minute. No kidnappings happening there.

SPEAKER_01: 46:30

So so come on. First of all, Sean, so if you were going on a cruise, all right, yeah, and the destination was known to have you know safety concerns uh here and there about kidnappings.

SPEAKER_00: 46:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 46:47

Getting off the boat?

SPEAKER_00: 46:48

No.

SPEAKER_01: 46:51

I'm not even going. As much as I might want that bottle of rum, I'm not going. So if this week they said, well, the kidnappings are down, everybody's welcome back in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 46:59

Oh yeah, we're safe now.

SPEAKER_01: 47:01

Oh yeah. Let's go to Haiti, right?

SPEAKER_00: 47:04

Dude, no. I Haiti when the that happens.

SPEAKER_01: 47:09

That was bad.

SPEAKER_00: 47:10

Yeah. Listen, I all I gotta say is like, you know, people, management's not always smart. Really? Can we start there? No. Can I get an Amen? Amen. Please, God.

SPEAKER_01: 47:25

Amen. You're supposed to surround yourself with people that are smarter than you to be smart management.

SPEAKER_00: 47:31

Yeah, exactly. Right. And you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna avoid and suspend Caribbean, suspend it. Don't go there. Right. Like cancel the ships and you know, and stop doing it until those countries behave or whatever you want to do, but or pick another route.

SPEAKER_01: 47:47

Could you imagine? Okay, think about that. If you booked a flight, or if you booked a cruise and they they stopped them, and then you the week that you're coming, they they're like, okay, we're gonna go. Yeah, we're gonna go. We got a new destination for you. Hey, guess what? There was only like three kidnappings. Yeah. It's not bad. It's all down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 48:09

It's trending down. We think it's okay.

SPEAKER_01: 48:12

All right. So here's what's been going on too. These these um this another thing that they've been talking about in the um in the news was these passengers that are paying for these um, you know, the cheap seats. Sure. Right? And and we have a lot of the economy plus seats that are available. Yeah. On some of the flights now, I mean it's that time of year.

SPEAKER_00: 48:32

Especially on the airline too. Like not all airlines have two different classifications in economy.

SPEAKER_01: 48:37

Right. But you say say that you have um uh room in the in the forward part of the cabin, which is more leg room. Right. More all the other airlines, every every airline pays for it, you gotta pay for it. But the people in back, so it's completely packed back there, and they look like sardines.

SPEAKER_00: 48:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 48:52

And there's like 20 s people in the front part.

SPEAKER_00: 48:55

Sure.

SPEAKER_01: 48:56

So all these people are getting pissed because they're they're sitting there saying, Well, you should let us move up to be comfortable.

SPEAKER_00: 49:02

Right. This ain't a bus. Nope. Last time I checked, there's only one plane out there that's yellow. Not most of them. Nope. Okay. And you pay for whatever you want to you want to get. Right. It's kind of like the same thing with like, you know, you get the we always get that person in the last row, you know, that oh man, how did I get this seat? You bought the damn ticket. That's how you got it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 49:29

Okay, that's the same thing if you're like 6'6 and you bought that that crappy ass seat in the back. Right. Oh, man, and then you go to the flight attendant.

SPEAKER_00: 49:36

My legs don't fit in here. Can I move?

SPEAKER_01: 49:38

Uh, they were that size when you bought the ticket. Right. Right? Right. This didn't sneak up on you. No, your legs were the same size. But yet you're getting mad, you're getting mad at that at the airline and the flight attendants because they're refusing to let you move up into the the place with more leg room. Yeah. Those people paid for that. So if they get an extra two or three seats, hey, look, they they did a good job.

SPEAKER_00: 50:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:01

They got a good value for their money. They paid like 70 70 bucks extra and they got a whole room. Now you look like a sardine cam.

SPEAKER_00: 50:09

Dude, I I am always baffled by those people, those large people. And I don't care which direction you want to go, horizontal or vertical. Right. I already know you. I mean, I don't understand why you don't just take care of yourself. Take care of yourself. Yep. Like, listen, I like to travel and I like to travel in comfort. I mean, the last thing I'm gonna do is I want to be squished up on somebody, right? I mean, if I have to get on a plane and I have to be in that situation because I had got to get to a certain situation, I will do that. But for the most part, if I'm voluntarily just going someplace, I'm definitely not gonna preempt my travel to say put me into a sardine can.

unknown: 50:48

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 50:48

There's no way you're going in the back. There is no way. No, you're going in the in into the plus section.

SPEAKER_00: 50:54

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 50:56

So, okay, they had this flight that was traveling from uh Charlotte to Las Vegas, also uh got a little bit crazy. A 47-year-old passenger threatened a crew member and assaulted a flight attendant. Eventually they they were uh they were duct taped to their seat.

SPEAKER_00: 51:11

Dude, you know what?

SPEAKER_01: 51:12

Where do they get duct tape?

SPEAKER_00: 51:13

That's who carries that? So here's this some airlines that are out there, instead of handcuffs, they have duct tape. Really? So they have a roll of duct tape that they have instead of handcuffs. So, like, you know, our airline, we got wire ties, right? So we're gonna we're gonna put them in wire ties. But these other people got duct tapes. I want duct tape. But I want duct tape too, because I want to duct tape, I want to like mummy their ass onto the seat. Like, like there's I don't know if this is good enough.

SPEAKER_01: 51:40

You better hope there ain't an emergency because there's only one person that ain't getting off that plane.

SPEAKER_00: 51:44

Right. Yeah. That duct tape person. I'm telling you, they're gonna have to, they'd have to get some like serious shears to get them out of my seat.

SPEAKER_01: 51:50

They got some good videos, man, of those passengers being duct taped, though. It's crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 51:55

Crazy. But I guess I mean that's you know, you get you get it, whatever, whatever. That's that's their procedure. Duct tape.

SPEAKER_01: 52:03

So you got another passenger that he was pissed off because they gave um uh their this their child his$300 seat.

SPEAKER_00: 52:13

His$300 kit. So when he can they got on a plane, here's this child sitting in his seat, and he's like pissed because this child sitting in his$300 seat.

SPEAKER_01: 52:22

Yeah, and so they had to they had to put him in another seat, probably why? Came up late, right?

SPEAKER_00: 52:28

Wouldn't showing up. At certain points in a lot of the airlines policies out there, if you're not there at a certain period of time, they start releasing the seats and be like, okay, that person doesn't showing up. We need to put other bodies in there. And if little Joey got it before you, so be it.

SPEAKER_01: 52:44

If you get in an argument with a little kid, right. That ain't gonna go well. All right, so here you had a you had a passenger complain uh to a flight attendant that they well, he actually complained to another flight attendant that the other flight attendant wouldn't serve him unless he took off both his headphones. Like, you're gonna love this one. So yeah, he took off one, but the person wouldn't serve him unless he took both of them off.

SPEAKER_00: 53:09

So like one ear was exposed, but the other ear was had still had his music or whatever going on.

SPEAKER_01: 53:14

She just didn't feel like he was completely tuned in.

SPEAKER_00: 53:17

I don't think he was.

SPEAKER_01: 53:19

So yeah, that's that's hilarious. But that's not gonna go over well. No, right? I mean, truthfully, it's not gonna go over well. As much as we don't like headphones, right, as long as you partially tune in, yeah, right, you're gonna get something to drink. I ain't gonna do that to you. You're gonna get something to drink, but you know, hey, tune in.

SPEAKER_00: 53:37

Dude, man. I mean, just I just hate that people tune us out, and then if we miss them or whatever the situation is, or they feel like they're being neglected. It's because they did it to them, their own damn selves. Like, listen, if we're out there in the aisles serving, pay attention to what we're doing, and we're like most most people are like frequent flyers nowadays. You know, you get rare very rare have you seen a oh, this is my first flight. We get 'em, but it's not it's not the common thing. The common denominator is you've had your ass on a flight and know what how it works. Right.

SPEAKER_01: 54:14

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 54:14

Right. So good grief.

SPEAKER_01: 54:16

All right, gotta love this next one. Uh, 13-year-old boy. He uh he got inside the wheel well. We've talked about these before. Now he traveled 94 minutes, right? 94 minute flight from uh Kabul to Delhi on the the 21st of September, survived. Wow. That's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_00: 54:37

That's lucky.

SPEAKER_01: 54:39

Yeah. Lucky. Pretty impressive, though. I mean, not exactly the way I travel, but you know something for a 13-year-old kid. They say when they put him back, they they they gave him a seat in the cabin.

SPEAKER_00: 54:48

They must they they must not have gone too high in altitude for him. You know, like that's probably the only thing that saved his life because they didn't get up to like they didn't shoot up to 35. That shit was cold, though. I don't care how yeah, no matter what.

SPEAKER_01: 55:03

Imagine how cold that'd be.

SPEAKER_00: 55:04

Yeah, even in that those desert countries and stuff like that, it still gets cold at altitude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 55:10

Hey, before we get out of here, uh just want to say um Spirit Airlines, they're cutting 1800 flight attendants jobs very soon. We just wanted to tell you guys, take care of yourself. Um, we've been there. We have been there. We've been there, trust me. We and and you guys uh just keep it together and uh see what happens, and then just realize, you know, there there's if if it doesn't work out, there's always a place that you can go. And uh and if it and hopefully it does, then you guys will get back together and uh and you know you'll start flying again and uh be on the plane soon. But again, you know, our hearts go out to you and and we hope that it all turns out well.

SPEAKER_00: 55:49

AG, I heard there's a cell tower repair position open. A A Ron. All I'm saying is that you don't know where this is we're full circle. We don't know where life trajectory is happening. And listen, just because of this furlough and all this stuff, keep going. Exactly, keep going. This is just a stumbling block, you know. You can just you don't know where life's getting ready to take you, but believe me, it's all for the better.

SPEAKER_01: 56:21

And and one more thing, AA Ron. If you're listening, send us an email. Send us an email, A Ron. All right, Sean. Take us out with a quote.

SPEAKER_00: 56:32

All right, you know what the quote of date is is it does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. That's what we just said about everything else, right? Boom. The whole episode. This is what it's about, man. Just keep your focus forward, don't look back, just keep going. I mean, I can't tell you, and uh G could get to attest to this. I try everything in life. Yep. Like I have been into so much shit, and it seems like I haven't done nothing. Like I've always tried I try stuff, and I there's uh the majority of it um it's shit, but just keep going.

SPEAKER_01: 57:13

You know, but okay. So talk about that for a second before we get out of here. The only way that you'll find out if truly if that iron in the fire is the one, is that if you keep putting them. So, you know, I I'll give you that, man. You're you're right, you've tried many, many things, but the thing is that you just keep putting them in there, and one day it it's gonna be the right one.

SPEAKER_00: 57:35

Yeah, it's what it is. I mean, like, it doesn't have to be like the um you know, pinnacle of uh success. Like, you don't have to be like, I don't have to become a superstar, or I don't have to like I can just succeed to a level that I'm comfortable with, and I can move on to something else. Like there, you don't have to be the best at something, or you don't have to be like the richest and all that stuff. You can just try things and find out, you know, the experience in itself and putting it all together is really what makes you such a better person. Just having all those different types of experiences and understanding how the world and people work and all that stuff. That's that's where it's at.

SPEAKER_01: 58:17

And remember, I got here because I took that left turn at Albuquerque. So, hey, you guys have a good week. Yeah, we had a lot of fun, and we will see you next week. Happy anniversary, Sean. Happy anniversary, and we will see you guys next time on Cabin Pressure.

SPEAKER_00: 58:30

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