You Can’t Outdrink Altitude And Other Lessons From The Skies

Ever watched a simple trip turn into a sitcom? We kick off with a cursed run to Palm Springs—stuck galley bin, maintenance call, ATC hold, go‑around, then jammed stairs on arrival—before settling into perfect desert golf and blue skies. It’s a snapshot of modern air travel: crews and passengers riding the same turbulence, each with a different job to do once the door closes.

From there we aim higher. We unpack a striking AI documentary that tracks the leap from protein folding breakthroughs to open data that accelerates cancer research. Jaw-dropping progress comes with hard questions: what happens when the same tools that design cures can design threats, or when autonomous systems move faster than human judgment? We weigh innovation against governance and why timing—not just ambition—decides what becomes possible.

Back in the cabin, we get practical. A hilarious iPad mix-up shows how easy it is to blame the crew for noise… when your own tablet is chirping. We break down why intoxicated passengers don’t fly, how alcohol hits harder at altitude, and the smartest way to handle a tipsy friend: sit down and stay out of it. Winter shows up, too—first de-icing day, first frostbit surprise—so we share road and ramp survival kits: compact shovel, jumper pack, magnetized beacons, gloves, beanie, and a thermal blanket. And if the aurora flares, we teach your phone the trick for capturing northern lights you can’t see with the naked eye.

Along the way we hit shutdown aftershocks, the Dulles people-mover crash, crew alcohol limits that mean business, and a closing idea worth keeping: ambition is good, but timing needs to be right. If you’re headed into peak travel season, this one packs laughs, hard-won rules, and real-world tips to make the journey smoother.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Opens, Golf Chaos, Airport Tales
• 4:20 Vacation Logistics And The Flight From Hell
• 12:40 Palm Springs Golf And Travel Planning
• 20:45 AI Breakthroughs, Risks, And Smart Glasses
• 30:50 Shutdown Delays, Dulles Incident, Policy Rant
• 39:30 iPad Noise Mix-up And Passenger Behavior
• 47:45 Why Intoxicated Passengers Don’t Fly
• 56:20 First Winter Storm And Car Prep Tips
• 1:04:30 De-Icing Day And The 6'7 Meme

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:00

Welcome on board episode 62, where the seatbelt sign is on, the passengers are off, and Sean is still recovering from Palm Springs golf and toilet paper tail siding.

SPEAKER_01: 0:12

Yeah, that lady strutted through the airport like she had a streaming subscription to Charmin.

SPEAKER_02: 0:18

Meanwhile, half the country is trapped in airports because of the shutdown, and the other half is in the de-icing line, wondering why it's cold in November.

SPEAKER_01: 0:26

I live next to the a lake the size of France. Why is my windshield, buddy?

SPEAKER_02: 0:32

And a shout out to our 0.1% passengers, you know who you are, booked six months ago, packed two days early, and made it through TSA's free spa experience.

SPEAKER_01: 0:42

Only to get booted off the plane before the drink card even rolled out. That's a commitment to chaos.

SPEAKER_02: 0:49

But don't worry, we got tips for surviving winter travel, AI that moves faster than human comprehension, and maybe a bloody merry or three. So grab your gloves, charge your jumper cables, and silence your iPad, man. Because this episode's clear for takeoff and heavy turbulence. Here comes Johnny.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34

Slights. Watch out, dude. I just got back from golfing. Having a good trip out in Palm Springs. Did you hit any houses? I did. You did? Yeah, man. Um now the wife says I hit two. I'd say I only hit one, but um, you know, she counted as if I went in their yard, it got hit. Oh, okay. No, when I say hit a house, mine went boom. I mean, people jumped in the house, things like that, you know, ran out their side, see who in the hell hit her their house. Yeah, but I didn't I hit one. Did you put your signature on it? Sean was here, dude. It's you know, for all the golfers out there, it's one of those things I just try here. You you see the ball like arch off, and you're like, oh shit, oh shit.

SPEAKER_02: 2:21

Boom. Not exactly like Chevy Chase, right? Be the ball.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26

Yeah, it's uh it's yeah, it wasn't be the ball. You didn't want to be that ball. But yeah, good time. Dad man, you know what? Vacation turned out really good. Um, the big Audible down from uh Cabo to Palm Springs, the weather was phenomenal, man. I mean, it was so nice every day. Picture perfect skies, like not a barely a cloud in the sky. All you can see is contrails, but the temperature was like, even at night, like I think the low got down to like maybe 67, something like that. It was it was it was awesome.

SPEAKER_02: 3:01

Now you got there earlier though, right? Earlier than Carol.

SPEAKER_01: 3:04

I got there one day earlier than my wife. Okay, right, because we had to like adjust it, like we were doing a Sunday to Sunday vacation, and we could only book Saturday to Saturday. So, and she had a she had to work that day, so she was supposed to be flying the day before vacation. And uh, so she came out the next the following day. So, how was it traveling in economy? Um, so yeah, man, we bought these tickets.

SPEAKER_02: 3:29

I know she was up front.

SPEAKER_01: 3:30

Yeah, she got to she got to fly first class the whole way, and I got I got booted to the back on the second flight, but uh we all got there. It was uh it was all good. You didn't say how was the economy? But I gotta tell you, like my my second flight on my on my and I'm gonna tell you about this economy experience. So I had it seemed like everything was going wrong with this flight. Like I was like, I'm not gonna get there. Like I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna see Carol the next morning, and we're gonna be on the same flight. Because I mean, it was like everything was going on. First thing that happened, we like close the door, sitting there, sitting there, you know, all of a sudden, you know, they're like, oh, we're uh we have a mechanical problem here, and we're gonna have to call out maintenance. And uh um we uh the flight attendants have told us that there's a bin in the back alley, and uh they're not able to get it um properly stowed. And so um we're waiting. We we called maintenance. You know, you know what I did. Got up and went back there and go freaking.

SPEAKER_02: 4:29

Hey, yeah, yeah, let me let me do this. Get it out of the way.

SPEAKER_01: 4:31

That's exactly what I jumped out of my set. I'm like, excuse me, excuse me. People didn't know who I was because I wasn't playing gloves. I go back to back. I'm like, I go, uh, I'm like, I hate to get in your guys' business and everything. Oh, but I go, uh, what's going on? They're like, well, this this bin. And they had an atlas bin, and the atlas bin are those little square bins for everybody out there listening that are on the back of the planes in the galleys, and it was like stuck and it would not like go all the way in. And so I grabbed the summer bitch and I man manheld on that thing, jerked it right out, switched positions with another bin, slapped it in. I looked at him like, does that work? Time to go. And they're like, Thank you. Exactly. Time to go. So then the pilot, like, get they call the captain and everything, and he comes on, he's like, Well, evidently we had an off-duty flight agenda that uh saved the day for us and uh fixed the bin. So uh we had some little bit of paperwork started, so we're gonna have to cancel that, but we'll be on our way here shortly. Okay, so then so then this You're like the superhero. Yeah, yeah. So people like I when I walk back to my seat, and there this is before he even makes this announcement. Uh the guy look, this guy looks at me, he's like, Did you go back and fix that problem? I'm like, Yeah. And then right then the captain comes on and explains it. It was pretty wild. But this flight kept on happening. Like we push back, we have this mechanical thing. I'm like, I'm not gonna get there. You know, what's going on? Then we get out, we're like taxiing forever. We're like held up, you know, uh, traffic behind us and all this stuff, can't push, all that, you know, all that continuous normal stupid airline delay shit, right? And this is before, you know, that like all the culmination of the shutdown stuff is like building up. Uh because this is a a week ago, right? And so we get in the air, we're flying there. I mean, it's beautiful, clear skies. All of a sudden, uh, ladies and gentlemen, um ATC is having an issue uh in our destination, and uh they've decided to put us into a hold. I'm like, what is going on with this flight? So then next thing you know, like we're like circling a couple of times, finally we we come in, we're coming in, and if you you've flown into Palm Springs, and it's a beautiful arrival because you like kind of like circle down and you come right, somewhat pretty close to the mountains, and you're like out the left-hand side of your plane uh window, um, if you're landed to the north, and we come down, we're coming down, it's like everything's nice and smooth. Engine starts booling up.

SPEAKER_02: 7:12

Let's go back around one more time.

unknown: 7:15

I'm like, mother, what is going on?

SPEAKER_01: 7:18

I'm like, this flight is possessed. Get me on the ground, like something's good, like shit keeps on happening, like little tiny things keep on happening. This is all this flight all the way to. So we have to go around, we come back in, they do a landing, then we get down, we taxi over, we get it, get to the gate. You know, it's a roll-up stairs for our airline. You know, they pull the stairs up and you walk out on the like old school onto the tarmac. Ladies and gentlemen, um, sorry about the delay, but um, we're having some problems with the stairs.

SPEAKER_02: 7:51

See, you know, you know, what I love about when we talk about stuff like this, people don't understand is we're passengers, too.

SPEAKER_01: 7:59

Yeah, we're just this is me being a passenger.

SPEAKER_02: 8:01

Same shit. The same shit happens up.

SPEAKER_01: 8:02

Feeling, feeling the angst of the travel. And you know, like it was like I was like, God, when I got off the plane, I was like, thank God, let me get it.

SPEAKER_02: 8:11

Snowball smoke snowball effect.

SPEAKER_01: 8:13

I mean, honestly, the only thing they left off is breaking the belt and the baggage. I mean, it was like so crazy. I was like, and then you know, the wife flies in seamless the next day, no problems. But uh, that was that was the start of my life. That was your extra day. Yeah, that was our extra day, man. And um it was it was, I mean, the weather is amazing. The golf, dude. If you're a golfer, and and for those golfers out there, if you don't know about palm strings, you gotta get out to palm strings. There's like, I don't know, like I would say like in the neighborhood of like 30 courses out there that are accessible by the put to the public. I mean, I'm talking some really good golf. PGA West is the um biggest course out there and like the most famous. Like they held the Bob Hope Classic. You've heard that. Yeah, you know, um, they have all these big you walk into this club, total first class, but it's public access, and it is such a nice course, it was really nice. The only bad thing to the golf out there at this time of the year, and I'd recommend like this time of the year right now is the time to go to Palm Springs because things are starting to cool down up north, um, perfect weather down south, and the temperature there is just perfect, all the way until I guess um, you know, from from now, from November to about uh I think February is like their sweet spot, and you like that's when everybody's coming out there to golf and all that stuff, but after that, like 110 plus don't go.

SPEAKER_02: 9:53

Or or or Cabo has a problem.

unknown: 9:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 9:58

Well, Cabo has a problem.

SPEAKER_02: 10:00

There's me a good reason to go to Palm Springs, right?

SPEAKER_01: 10:03

And that is awesome, audible. But but yeah, yeah, the uh um it was it was a good vacation, and um I saw some really interesting things on uh, you know, like when I was tuning into I know you're not a big show watcher, you only should watch shows every time when I tell you, or uh most of the time, or or your wife forces you. It's a time thing, Sean.

SPEAKER_02: 10:27

It's a time thing. We you know, we we each have a little bit difference in the time thing.

SPEAKER_01: 10:32

Yeah, right. So I watched I watched two really cool uh documentaries because you know me, I'm always trying to like learn and understand all this stuff. And one of them was an AI documentary, and it was about this dude that um basically he kind of grew up as a kid, like he was like a he's a he was a genius, and um he like literally like uh decided to do he wanted to design an AI, like he wanted to make the best AI per possible, basically. And um it was like he was explaining how AI works and the whole nine yards, and it was a the whole documentary was kind of like about his life and what led up to where they are now and all that stuff, but um the the the craziest thing about it is that they were showing you like the what they used, so and one of the most interesting things is that they were talking about um folding um uh proteins and folding proteins is the way that we like cure cancer, like understanding how to fold proteins is the initial step to understanding how to make a correct protein cell that will make a correct organ and all that stuff, right? And so this dude solved it, got a freaking Nobel prize for understanding how to fold proteins. Then they decided they were, you know, like companies were like wanting them to figure this out and they were gonna pay to have it. Instead of them like giving it to one company, they decided to give it to the whole freaking world. So now the whole world and every scientist out there has all this information on how to properly fold fold proteins and all this stuff. This fix he ends up winning Nobel Prize for it, the whole nine yards. It was really super interesting about the whole thing. But the the thing that uh was super scary in the thing was them talking about the application of using this as a weapon, you know, like using AI as a weapon, right? Having autonomous vehicles and have autop autonomous um war machines, and if you can imagine in a computer like them solving a problem for us, like imagine a computer going to war for us, right? Like they could do things like snap before we even like decided to do it, it could be like done.

SPEAKER_02: 12:57

It's well technology. We've talked about this a lot because with you, um, but it was funny. I had a flight attendant um just this week. Now it not as much as with your AI, but she had smart glasses. Have you seen those?

SPEAKER_01: 13:10

Oh yeah. Um I'm I've I've seen them, I'm not a big fan of them, but yeah, it's they're actually kind of cool though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 13:18

I mean, you you know, they they have like you can hear the audio in it.

SPEAKER_01: 13:22

Yeah, and the speakers are like back by the arms of your glasses, yeah. Kind of like so you can hear it, and then they got cameras in the in the cameras, they got read they can record right from the glasses, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 13:32

But the funny part, it reminded me of like what eight, nine years ago. It was a Tom Cruise in the Mission Impossible, right? So you never seen those, and you seen them in the Tom Cruise movie. What was crazy is that the technology that they have and they they just don't release it, yeah. So the same thing as like this AI. Can you imagine with the technology they have with AI that it's not released?

SPEAKER_01: 13:53

Well, I think I think too, like you're confusing some of it with uh the imagination of storytelling. Like that's kind of like this Star Trek, you know, that when we grew up, it was Star Trek, you know, and be me up, Scotty, and they're flipped a little flip phone thing and like Scotty, beam me up, type of thing, you know. And that came to fruition of like we had flip phones and we were able to talk to each other, we couldn't beam each other up, but you know, that happened. Those glasses are probably the uh the thought of like this is what we can do as like a spy type of thing, you know. I mean, like in the future, and then you know, Facebook and Meta takes it and says, Hey, yeah, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02: 14:32

Let's do the same thing back in the 50s. Remember, they had used to have the jet packs, right? The guy was flying all over the place, and the next thing you know, all the military guys have those.

SPEAKER_01: 14:40

Yeah, so yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, like so all this all this stuff is like AI is moving so fast, and it the scary thing about the whole documentary was that it is moving at a blazing fast speed, and the majority of the scientists that are out there that are doing it are really thinking hard about the um the impact of how it's gonna affect us, and that there needs to be some type of monitoring on this because there's been so much thought about how AI can you can drop this into all kinds of stuff, and it could become very lethal and you know, unfriendly to humans. Yeah. So um, yeah, it's not like it's not like the uh you know the Terminator or anything like that, not to that type of crazy sci-fi level, but it's um where like you know, couldn't AI take over our military system and launch all the music missiles, things like that, you know, or create technology like I was talking about last week, about the the autonomous Navy ship. Yeah, you know. Is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? I don't know. Technology. Right, right. So, anyways, man, the other thing that happened that was funny as shit. So I get in off this uh so we're we're coming back off the vacation, and uh, you know, we're we get to the airport, we're sitting around and um waiting at the gate, and it was in a really huge it was one of those express flights, you know, so it wasn't a lot of people at the gate and stuff. Here comes this lady, she's like uh I'd say she was like maybe in her 70s or whatever. And she comes walking down, she's walking into the airport, the whole entire airport, a waiting area airport, and she has a stream of toilet paper tucked in the back of her pants. I'm talking, it looked like it was like a dinosaur tail, that how long it was. I mean, streaming behind her, and she's walking around the airport where she had wiped her ass and that's toilet paper, quite didn't get finished, and she's attached this big old stream to her and walked out of the bathroom with it.

SPEAKER_02: 16:43

How many, how many times have you seen that on an airplane?

SPEAKER_01: 16:45

Oh, we've seen it on the airplane many a time. Right?

SPEAKER_02: 16:47

It's it's either attached to their feet or they're attached to their ass.

SPEAKER_01: 16:51

Yeah, yeah. She she had it tucked in her little uh stretchy pants, and uh some dude walked over and he's like, Listen, as much as I like the joke, I gotta tell you, you got you got something hanging off the back of your pants.

SPEAKER_02: 17:05

I I I have to admit, I am that guy. I'm that guy. I'm like, hey, look, you got some I as much as I'd love to see you walk through the whole plant, you gotta take that off your shoe, man. Because that that's just nasty. It's nasty. But don't want you.

SPEAKER_01: 17:19

It was so funny to see this lady walking. I'm like, that is hilarious. Like, you know, people played, we used to play jokes as a kid and stuff, right? Right. But here it is happening in real life. Old age comes back and bite you. Now it's gonna get you just time. Then the other thing that happened too was uh so when we were coming back, I got so Carol and I got back, no problem, right? And so we're going from Palm Springs to Cleveland. Our friend's going into Palm Brings, flying into Atlanta. He's flying, you know, he's like he's like a gazillion miler and all this stuff, status, the whole nine yards. They get there and they get on one of these things, they get to the airport, and Palm Springs Airport is like tiny. Now he's turned into his rental car, he has no hotel and the whole nine yards, he's waiting for his flight. They get there like two o'clock. They are waiting. It's a delay because of the shutdown. They put on this whole holding delay, and he's in an airport waiting and waiting. Oh, it's gonna be longer. ATC's made it to this, whatever. Dude, at 10 o'clock at night, they cancel the flight.

SPEAKER_02: 18:30

That's exactly what they were doing, man. Uh you would know this if you were at the airport more, but they sorry, I had to get that one in.

SPEAKER_01: 18:38

I don't need to be there. I've already experienced enough shit just in my travels.

SPEAKER_02: 18:45

It it was, I mean, it was crazy um with the with uh the delays and the cancellations at the airport. I mean, you heard a lot of it going on in Newark, but there was a lot of other things that went on too. Did you hear about that? Did you hear about you know that people mover over in Dulles?

SPEAKER_01: 18:59

No.

SPEAKER_02: 19:00

Okay, I'm gonna get back to the shutdown in a second, but that people mover in Dulles just the other day, it ran into the wall. Like 18 people got hurt, Sean.

SPEAKER_01: 19:08

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02: 19:08

Yeah, it ran literally, it uh it ran uh Jackson's girlfriend was actually on the tram behind them. Oh wow, yeah, she was that close to being. Yeah, sent me a picture. You could see actually it moved the wall.

SPEAKER_01: 19:19

Oh, dude, those things. I am so shocked that that airport does not have that, like have like redesigned something by now. You know, I know they added in the train so they could connect to some of the terminals and stuff, but uh I mean it is not those people movers suck. I mean, they're so they're so high, and I'm surprised more of them haven't like blown over or tipped over. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 19:40

You know? Well, they're probably gonna look at this one, uh but they didn't have any, you know, what the reason was because for you to actually run that damn thing through that, because you're supposed to slow down because it locks in. It has this whole locking mechanism to the front, like they drive it, and you know how they reverse, like when you you you go to the other side and you drive from the other side, and then you drive it into there. So something had there's gotta be more to that story. It's gonna be interesting to find out if that person was impaired.

SPEAKER_01: 20:07

He got the peepee.

SPEAKER_02: 20:09

18 people, though, man. 18 people were injured.

SPEAKER_01: 20:12

Yeah, that's that's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02: 20:14

But as far as a shutdown goes, the only thing I'm gonna say for shutdown is thank God we're at almost at the tail end of it. Oh, thank God. Right? I mean, to hold people hostage for their uh their pay pay hold their paychecks hostage. I think that's I'm sorry, that is freaking bullshit.

SPEAKER_01: 20:30

I don't care what the I don't care what the argument is, period. I mean, m one I think this is how I feel about the whole thing, and we're not getting too political here, but I don't think, period, one, somebody needs to make a law saying that when the government's shut down, every fucking body is shut down. They don't get paid. The military if the military doesn't get paid, they don't get paid. Right, exactly. Everybody, nobody in the government should be getting paid a paycheck, period. That should be shut down and shut down. And they didn't even make a law. Yeah. They really need to make a law. I mean, we keep on seeing this. How many times over our lifetime have we seen this? And I don't care what the argument's about, I can give a shit. Really? I mean, the common guy, you and me sitting back here, we're not the guy, you know, like this isn't, you know, the whatever they're arguing about and stuff, it usually isn't important to us. Right. Okay. And whatever their point is and all that bullshit, I mean, come on, stop. Everybody should stop getting paid. And that's my one thing about this whole thing that every time this happens and they got all the freaking Congress and all this shit, and they're sitting around going on vacation, you know, all this bullshit, getting paid.

SPEAKER_02: 21:46

If they knew, if they knew that they weren't getting paid, signed, sealed, delivered, period. It's it's done. It's done. But they they don't. It's other people's, it's other people's problem, so they don't give shit.

SPEAKER_01: 21:56

But anyway, I'm I'm not gonna we're not gonna get into a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02: 22:00

Right. Not gonna get into all that, but anyway, I'm just glad that we're at the end of it. It's gonna take a while. It's really gonna take a while, though, for it to actually to get it straight straightened out, though.

SPEAKER_01: 22:10

No, yeah, it's not like it's not gonna happen overnight. I was talking to somebody about this the other day, and they were saying, you know, like I go, if you remember like uh 9-11 and you remember like some of the COVID stuff when we slowed down, it takes a while to get everything but back up and running and and everything, you know, put together. So you you know, it's not like one of these, you know, you flip a button and hey, we're back open, and you turn the sign over from uh we're closed to we're open, and everything starts up. You know, it takes a little bit of time to get the logistics in place. Not to mention the government also has to approve us to start flying these routes they've now mandated us to cut down, right? You know, so the FA has to come back and say, okay, you can fly this much, or we have the controllers in place to be able to handle this much. There's a bun, it it's a little process. So I'm crossing my fingers that they get the shit back together before Thanksgiving, you know. Not gonna happen, but yeah, I mean it's gonna fall short.

SPEAKER_02: 23:09

I mean, it is gonna fall short. Plus, you know, like I said, we'll and we'll we'll talk about that more later, but um, yeah, I I just think that I I think that they're gonna fall short, and but I'm very happy that it's coming to a close to these people get paid.

SPEAKER_01: 23:21

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02: 23:22

So, but hey, this morning I was watching this video and it kind of threw me back for a minute. And um I was watching it, and it was uh they're they were talking about the Jacksons. They had this young group, and this this these guys sounded exactly like Michael Jackson. A B C It. They were singing ABC. Do you know who they compared them to?

SPEAKER_01: 23:43

Who they compare this new group to?

SPEAKER_02: 23:45

Yeah. No, no, no, no. This group sounded just like the Jackson, but they but they were comparing the Jackson 5 to New Edition. Oh, okay. Remember New Edition? Yeah. Well, they they were like, okay, remember ABC? Like A B C. Yeah. And then it goes, New Edition was Candy Girl. Remember that? Right. So they were actually playing this back and forth, and and they were talking about that, you know, it doesn't ever matter, which is true. It doesn't ever matter the lyrics. It's the beat. Everybody gets into the beat. You remember New Edition for me and you, man, that was like we were throwing it back then.

SPEAKER_01: 24:17

Dude, all of it. Right? You know. Yeah, I would I will agree that like it's all about the beat and all about the little catch. You know, people are like if people like it and it's catchy, yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02: 24:30

I just had to talk about it because it man, that just threw me back. I was looking at it, I was like, oh man, that that was that was a lot of fun back then. New edition. I love new edition. They're great. New edition. Yeah I like it, I like Jackson 5. Jackson 5 was cool. They did the Osman Brothers. They they did the um the one with Carol Burnett. Remember that the ABC? They did that whole have you seen that one?

SPEAKER_01: 24:51

With Caribbean Brunette, yes.

SPEAKER_02: 24:53

That whole episode. That was actually really good. But anyway, this one's even better. So uh I was on a flight and this this passenger rang her call button. I was working at front, and I came back to the back, and she was she was pissed. Really? Yeah. She was uh she was so annoyed that for the last 40 minutes she had been hearing this person's iPad, right? That they had it. Well, they had it without the headphones.

SPEAKER_01: 25:18

Oh, right. I I can't stand that.

SPEAKER_02: 25:20

Yeah, and and she was like, Um, look, I just I just want to know why aren't you guys taking care of this? And I was like, ma'am, you just called me back. She said, You're there, your crew members have walked past here numerous times. This has been playing, and it's been very annoying to my husband and myself for the last 40 minutes, and your guys' rule, it states right here that you're supposed to wear headphones uh if you're gonna be playing um the the listening to anything to anything out loud. And I said, You're correct. And she goes, Well, are you gonna take care of it? And I said, Yes, ma'am, I am.

SPEAKER_01: 25:54

No, you should have said, huh?

SPEAKER_02: 25:57

No, I'm gonna say I'm gonna take care of it. What'd you say? Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna but I I told her, No, I said, I'll take care of it. She goes, Okay, will you tell the person? I said, I will. And she goes, Okay. And I looked at her and I said, ma'am, it's it's your it's your iPad. There you go, man. And she goes, What? And I said, it it's your iPad. It's your iPad. And her husband looked at me and goes, Um, wait a minute. And he puts his head down by her iPad and he goes, Oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. She goes, I don't have anything on my iPad. And I said, But you have something playing in the background.

SPEAKER_01: 26:32

Something. That's still playing. Some some game or something that you got going your solitary games. That's a little tune jingling.

SPEAKER_02: 26:39

Yeah. Yeah. And and she had that look on her face as that she put her head down. And then she, you know how she's like whispering over at her husband, I don't really understand that. You know, something how could it really have been mine? Blah, blah, blah, for the last 40 minutes. But the best part of this, the best part of it was a week later, I just had them on my plane again. And when they walked on board, we got such a laugh out of it. Because I mean, as soon as they, as soon as they come on board, he goes, We turned it off. And I told him I said, Hey, it's off. At least you got a story out of it.

SPEAKER_01: 27:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 27:09

You know, I mean, she initially she was all pissed off, but now it turned out to be funny.

SPEAKER_01: 27:14

That's hilarious. Because there's so many times on a plane that people are like ill-foundedly just uh directing their like frustrations at us, the crew, and like we have nothing to do with it. Or like like all we're you know, and us walking by, we've we've got a thousand things we're doing in our head. Like we're normally if we're walking by, we're walking to go do something. We're doing something. It's like back and forth, and we're really not paying attention as we're like listening to everybody as we're walking down the aisles, listening to their conversations, right?

SPEAKER_02: 27:46

I love that you just said that we had nothing to do with it because that is going to to cover a little bit about what I'm gonna talk about next. Do you like taking passengers off airplanes? No, I hate I hate removing pass. I'm gonna say this again. I hate removing passengers off airplanes because we're in the business of getting people from destination to destination. That's what we do.

SPEAKER_01: 28:11

They're wasting our time. Exactly. So basically, they're not just wasting our time, they're wasting everyone's time on board. It's like it's a very inconsiderate thing to do towards everyone on the plane.

SPEAKER_02: 28:23

Yeah, I mean, you know, it it's just you come on board, act like a normal person, get yourself to your destination, and go. So I wanted to cover this a little bit because this happened this week, and it was kind of it didn't pertain to me, but it's what we go through on a regular basis with passengers that do this. So, so what I thought about is okay, I'm this passenger, and I'm thinking, okay, I can't wait for my vacation. I'm months earlier, okay? Right. And I purchased my ticket. So I'm all excited because I'm going to Cabo. Do you like that? I'm going to Cabo.

SPEAKER_01: 29:00

Are you American?

SPEAKER_02: 29:01

No. But anyway, I I purchased this ticket months in advance. And so I can't wait because I earned it, right? I can't wait. I have waited for this vacation. I've earned this vacation. So I'm very excited. I'm a week out. And all I could think about is, man, one more week. I'm on the beach. Right. So two days out, I'm already packing my shit. Right? Heck yeah. I'm packing my bags, make sure I got all my stuff. You know, I'm I'm like, I'm there, man. I'm already, I'm already on the beach.

SPEAKER_01: 29:33

Yeah, making a list, checking it twice.

SPEAKER_02: 29:35

And you know what I did? I'm taking the early morning flight, Sean. Right?

SPEAKER_01: 29:38

I'm gonna get there early.

SPEAKER_02: 29:39

I'm gonna get there early, man. My ass is up at two o'clock. Maximize my party. Exactly, man. I I'm telling you, I'm on that morning flight. I'm going down there. I'm thinking I'm gonna be on the beach by what? Noon? Noon. One at the max. So I'm I'm all excited about this. So then I drive to the airport. I got to park at this offsite airport. Airport parking lot, right? I take a packed shuttle, which you know, to the airport with a family full of kids screaming, He took my donut. Right?

SPEAKER_01: 30:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 30:11

All right. So then you stand in line to check your bags. Still thinking, Man, I'm gonna be there early. I'm gonna be on the beach. It's happening. Then I back up and I go to this other longer security line to get my free government-issued rub down. Yeah. To clear TSA.

SPEAKER_01: 30:30

Yep. So then I get my TSA massage.

SPEAKER_02: 30:33

Yeah, I get my little rub down, a little smile. TSA loves you. We love them. Then I'm gonna grab my cup of coffee or I'm gonna stop buying, maybe have Bloody Mary. Yeah. Right? Because I earned it. Heck yeah. I earned it, man. I I paid for this six months ago. I'm ready to go. So I'm heading to the gate. Nothing wrong with priming the trip. No, I'm heading to the gate now, Sean. And I I I'm waiting at the gate, and then I'm thinking, man, I gotta get my bag on.

SPEAKER_01: 31:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 31:00

I gotta get in those cedar point lines. The bag anxieties. Yeah, I'm gonna get in that one line because I gotta try to get my bag on.

SPEAKER_01: 31:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 31:08

Because you know, not all the bags go on an airplane.

SPEAKER_01: 31:10

That's right. Somebody might take my spot above my head.

SPEAKER_02: 31:12

Yeah. So you get there, you get in that line 40 minutes before you start boarding. Right. And find out when you get up there, they they're taking your bag.

SPEAKER_01: 31:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 31:21

You gotta check it. Check it. Then you're getting on the plane, getting ready for this destination, you sit yourself down, and find out at this point you can't even keep your shit together 10 minutes longer, and you find your ass being escorted off the plane, right? From people clapping, and you're going back into the gate area, all because of the way you acted once you got your ass on the plane, and you couldn't enjoy the fact that you went through airport hell. Yeah. And this is the part that kills me in what you were saying. Only to blame the crew that took you off the airplane. Right. It's your fault. Gee, you know it's your fault.1%. Everybody knows that this is what we deal with all the time. Now it's just one or two people.

SPEAKER_01: 32:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 32:21

One or two. And and what they do is they ruin our damn day because do you like doing paperwork? I hate doing paperwork. Well, I don't, I hate it.

SPEAKER_01: 32:29

I hate doing paperwork. It's either dumb or dumb and dumber.

SPEAKER_02: 32:33

So six months ago, you had this great decision on going going on a vacation, and then you got your ass to that seat and you couldn't just shut up for a few more minutes.

SPEAKER_01: 32:42

Yeah, no. People just don't get it. No. They don't get it. No. They don't get it at all. Well, here's one thing that, you know, when you're thinking about this whole thing, like the the outside world of how the entire world operates and retail and service industry, the whole nine yards, it operates a little different than how an airline. So like when you go to Fridays or you go to, you know, Applebee's or whatever place you like to frequent eating at, and you have something happening with your meal, you know, you might throw a fuss about your meal and call over the manager and all this stuff and act a complete fool and idiot, do stupid stuff, you know, toss your food, who knows what are you, whatever it gets in your mind to do, to act belligerent, but they don't have laws. Right. They don't have the the only laws they got is like the civil disobedient laws and you know damaging property of somebody's personal property, all those normal laws that protect us here as a citizen. But the the planes have laws. Right. And we got rules to keep things in order.

SPEAKER_02: 33:55

And then you have then you have 99.9% of the people go, why didn't you take them off?

SPEAKER_01: 34:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 34:04

Nobody that wants that on their they don't want this disruption because they they've seen these on YouTube, they've seen these videos. So when this this happens, this same crew that welcomed you on board, hey, good morning, how you doing? Welcome on board, right? Right now becomes Satan's child taking you off the airplane. Right? I mean, that's the truth. I mean, and and it it it it's re it's absolutely ridiculous. And the number one thing, the number one thing, and you guys didn't need to understand this, and we talked about it before: intoxicated passengers. When you're intoxicated on an airline, Sean, what is that? And that's any airline. Doesn't matter. If you are deemed intoxicated on an airplane, what happens? You don't fly. You do not fly. If you're intoxicated before you get on a plane, you are not boarded. If you're if you're seen to be intoxicated on the plane during the boarding process, you're not gonna be boarding. Why? Because you're intoxicated. Okay, but why? Give them a reason. I mean, why do they why is it important that they not fly?

SPEAKER_01: 35:07

Oh, because we don't know what's gonna happen. Like anything can possibly happen. You don't know how people react when they're intoxicated. We've all seen how people react in in bars and stuff when they're intoxicated. So you don't want that unruliness or that out-of-control person on board the a trapped environment that can become very volatile.

SPEAKER_02: 35:26

And also safety of flight.

SPEAKER_01: 35:28

Safety of flight.

SPEAKER_02: 35:29

Safety of flight is that you might not be able to get that, get off the aircraft if you're intoxicated, if there's an emergency. You might block an emergency exit if you're intoxicated, you might do something that was stupid and injure other passengers because that you're on there. You might projectile puke over the top of other people, which we've had. Yep. But see, when that happens, then your crew now is completely responsible for all that.

SPEAKER_01: 35:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 35:56

So there's reasons why you don't go. So just remember, I even though you're talking about the Bloody Mary, have one. Don't have three or four.

SPEAKER_01: 36:05

Yeah, before you get on board.

SPEAKER_02: 36:06

Yeah, don't. Because we want to take you to your destination.

SPEAKER_01: 36:10

Even when you think you can handle your liquor, what people know another concept of this whole thing, little aspect, is that you know, alcohol affects you differently at altitude. Right. There's less oxygen up there, your body metabolizes alcohol differently. The whole nine years. I don't care how heavy a drinker you are or how big you are, or what and all that stuff, you ain't no exception. Nope. There's no exceptions out there. I've never seen one yet. If you drink too much, it's gonna affect your lot.

SPEAKER_02: 36:37

And here's here's one more thing before we move on from this. If you happen to be traveling with that intoxicated person, right?

SPEAKER_01: 36:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 36:46

And you feel like you want to stand up and uh inject your uh yourself into the conversation, Sean, do you think that's a good idea? No. What's the best thing? Just simply, what is the best thing if you're traveling as a group and that person is intoxicated, what's the best thing that you could do? Stay out of it. Sit down. Sit down. Thank you very much. Shut your mouth. Enjoy your flight.

SPEAKER_01: 37:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 37:11

I'm going to Cabo. Wait for the bar cart in flight. I'll see you tomorrow when you get there. Sober up. Exactly. See you tomorrow, Johnny. I mean, seriously, that's it. I mean, and we don't want to, we do let me reiterate this. We hate taking anybody off an air aircraft. We don't like doing that. None of it, there's not one of us that liked the confrontation of that. I don't like the paperwork. No, that's what I said. I hate the paperwork. I hate it. Terrible. I can't stand it. But it's always all our fault. I forced you to drink, I forced you to yell at me. I forced you to threaten, right?

SPEAKER_01: 37:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 37:45

It's always our fault.

SPEAKER_01: 37:47

You're a bully.

SPEAKER_02: 37:48

I know it. Anyway, uh, next I'm gonna talk about the big winter storm, man. The first, the first storm of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 37:54

Dude, I just got back from vacation. I walk in my house, I wake up in the morning, and there's two inches of snow on the deck, my new deck. I am not a fan of winter, brother. I was like, what the hell's going on, people? Come on.

SPEAKER_02: 38:09

Nope. Not a fan of winter, but you know what I love about Cleveland, though, is that we pull into Cleveland and open the door up. First thing is this. Oh my god, it's freezing. I'm like, are you serious? It's November.

SPEAKER_01: 38:20

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 38:21

Right? My my my good buddy Jack used to say, because when we come in there in January, the people come in in Ohio and you open the door out, and it's like a blizzard out there. And they would they would come to the door and they'd be in shorts coming from Florida, and they're like, Oh my god, it's freezing. I'm like, Jack used to say it all the time. He goes, that would be a conversation in June. He goes, he goes, it's January in in uh in Ohio, right? He goes, that would be a conversation in June. Have a good day.

SPEAKER_01: 38:53

It's the truth, man. Inappropriately traveling in the wrong clothes.

SPEAKER_02: 38:58

Come on, we live by a big ass lake.

SPEAKER_01: 39:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 39:01

Right? I mean, in that big ass lake, the temperature is cold and it changes often.

SPEAKER_01: 39:06

Dude, then all that lake does is like drum up weather.

SPEAKER_02: 39:10

Just gets freaking cold. Cold. So I got I had to talk about, okay. So when when you when we start this winter season, do you get your car ready? Do you do a few things?

SPEAKER_01: 39:22

Uh for the most part, yeah. I mean, I was in like the other day I was uh going in and I was making sure both of us had our scrapers and you know, I have a little portable shovel that I throw in the cars and you know, lad prep them up for that stuff. I mean, I don't like it's not like old school where we had to like you know change the oil and get it ready for winter and put the snow tires on. All that shit. You know, technology's helped us out a little bit, but uh yeah, yeah. No, no, I we we prep up to like because the one thing you don't want to do in uh Ohio here when we come back from a trip is uh come back to a car that's snowed in.

SPEAKER_02: 40:00

Yeah, but the big thing about okay, interstate. If you something happened on the interstate, what I learned about this was an accident years ago, is I I have an emergency cone that's flashing that pops down. It's like a three-foot cone.

SPEAKER_01: 40:13

Dude, I have something better. What's that? I got this bag, and you guys can get this on naturally. You'd have something better, but yeah. It's it's it's this is awesome, man. I mean, I'm just I'm I'm just trying to give you a little uh PSA out there. I like my cone. Yeah, so they give they sell these little baggies of these little like disc uh and the discs are magnet, I think it's magnetized. And so not only can you throw them down underground, they come in packages of three or six, they're all battery operated, like triple A batteries, whatever. And you flip them on, they can do SOS blinking, they can do strobing, they can do all this stuff, but you could throw them on the side of your car, they can spin around like they're the tow trucks, have those lights spinning, they can do all that stuff. But I got a bag of like in each of my cars, I have a bag of a minimum of three of those things, so I can have one in front, back, and right on the side of my car, just so people see you. Right. Because that's the number one thing. People don't pay attention and can't see.

SPEAKER_02: 41:09

They don't see it. I mean, they they had a bad accident years ago on 71 because of that, and the girl was in the car. But anyway, either flashing cones or get something flashing that you can put in your car. Uh, this year, I got a heated blanket.

SPEAKER_01: 41:22

That's good, man.

SPEAKER_02: 41:22

No, it's it's just gonna stay in the blanket. I mean, hopefully it stays in a wrapper. But I got a heated blanket, got a battery jumper. I did get one of those, man.

SPEAKER_01: 41:32

I got a small segue here because I gotta tell you about the story. I get home, I have uh this is uh the year before last year or the year before, and it was like minus four. Okay. I get in my car, the car goes. That's I click the key. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. I'm like, I mean, you know, and you're you can see your breath. Exactly. It's freaking cold out, it's minus four. I go in, I'm like, I got my jumper, right? You know, I go and get that jumper box and I go hook it up to my battery. I'm like, this is gonna be good. I get in there, click the thing. The jumper was then it was like and it stopped, like totally stopped. It wouldn't even jump it. I mean, so then I had the people come over to get their jumper box, they tried to jump to the whole nine yards. It was so damn cold, you couldn't even get the fluid in the thing warmed up. I had to warm up the engine, so I had to at least like let the thing, the cables hooked up to the engine for a while, so that it'd warm it up a little bit because it was so fucking cold.

SPEAKER_02: 42:44

That is crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_01: 42:46

Yeah, I put my body. But it's a good idea. Jumper boxes are great.

SPEAKER_02: 42:49

Heated blanket on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:50

Something, yeah. Throw it on the on. Well, you gotta have battery.

SPEAKER_02: 42:54

But I did, I I added a jumper. I added the jumper because of you this year. Yeah, that jumped. I mean, I had the I had the smaller one, but I got it. I got actually a pretty good one. Hey, they do great, they have an amazing hey, hey, I got it. It's already in the car. So you're right, scraper. But you know the one thing too, ear muss.

SPEAKER_01: 43:09

Yeah, you need to earmuffs.

SPEAKER_02: 43:10

I love ear muss, man. And then gloves. I got a beanie. Do you? Yeah. I like the ear muss because I can I can just throw them in my pocket when I walk in.

SPEAKER_01: 43:18

I got gloves and a beanie in my back of the car too, as well. Like extra just uh just encased.

SPEAKER_02: 43:23

Yep. And now when the wet like when the weather really starts getting bad, I'll throw my car hearts in there. You know, my my coveralls and stuff. And I'll throw my I'll throw my big boots in there too. Because there's nothing there's nothing worse because you're wearing your your work shoes and you're in like three feet of snow. I mean, and next thing you know, your feet are soaked and you're freezing. Dude, the stuff that didn't Welcome to Ohio.

SPEAKER_01: 43:45

Yeah, the stuff we have to do in the north to prepare for our stuff, but people are used to it. Like we're used to this whole thing. This is the season, you gotta be prepared. And uh, that's why I like it. We have a shovel in the car, and that shovel saved my butt, man, many a time. Like trying to just like being able to just shovel out enough to be able to get the car moving so I can get through the snow. Right. But uh shoot.

SPEAKER_02: 44:08

So, yeah, that's the fun that we were having, man. All that that first little winter, but here's here's the one you're gonna like this too. Okay, it goes right back to the airport. Um, so we're getting ready uh to pull out. We had to go de-ice for the first time this year. Right. So we pull in and Cleveland's got some good de-icing.

unknown: 44:25

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 44:26

I mean, they're pretty fast. Yeah, they got a good setup. I like how they're they're set up. Well, we we we came in there and uh today was training day. No. Yeah. Stop it. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 44:37

Well, it was the first day, first. So when else do you train?

SPEAKER_02: 44:40

Could you imagine? Could you imagine, imagine what training day uh at the icing pad was? Imagine what that would have been?

SPEAKER_01: 44:50

Yeah. What would what would have that been?

SPEAKER_02: 44:52

I don't know. That's what I'm asking you. Imagine what that would have been.

SPEAKER_01: 44:55

Uh probably uh six seven. What?

SPEAKER_02: 45:01

Six seven. What the f what is what are you talking about? Six, seven. I'm talking about the icing pad, the de-icing pad, and you're sitting there going six seven. What the crap is six seven?

SPEAKER_01: 45:12

Dude. If you know, you know. That's what it is. Six, seven. Oh my god. The six, seven stuff is going crazy, man. What are you talking about? Six seven. This is the this is the new slang right now. It's going on everywhere in the world right now. 6'7. All the kids are saying it. G, you gotta catch up with it, man. You're getting too old. We're old. What the hell?

SPEAKER_02: 45:37

You come up with 6'7. I'm like, I'm still going, what the f- What is the six seven?

SPEAKER_01: 45:41

So the six seven stuff is like going it's like it's like um basically, you know, okay, I got I got it. You know, yeah, whatever. Basically, we know you don't. Yeah, six seven. I would smack you in the head. Evidently, evidently, like the six, seven's so crazy. Like the schools now are talking about like they're out, they're gonna want to ban kids saying six, seven, and you'll get in trouble for saying it.

SPEAKER_02: 46:07

Well, because you want they want to smack you in the head too. Right? I mean, if if if you had a response to, okay, wait a minute, just like you did said to me, I'm like, okay, what do you think about the what'd you think about the the de-icing light today? Oh, 6'7. That's the point, G. I understand what the point is. And you'd understand the next thing that you'd hear be like that, smacked upside your head. Not me. Yes. My ass.

SPEAKER_01: 46:34

Oh my god. Dude, it is so funny because I haven't I have yet to like my little nieces yet. I've been waiting for them to spit out a 6'7, but I don't think they will because their parents are teachers and the teachers like they hate this shit.

SPEAKER_02: 46:48

Like, well, you can tell I didn't like your 6'7 either. But hey, hey, let's let's let's go around the globe.

SPEAKER_01: 46:53

Go around the globe, man. You know what's happening tonight that is really cool, just happened last night, too, is that the uh northern hemisphere is uh like experiencing that time of the year where uh you can see the northern lights. I guess the like sun is going crazy right now, and like really the upper, they're talking about as far as almost Georgia can see northern lights. Have you seen them? In the plane, in the plane, yeah. Yeah, in the plane, very cool. Well, yeah, we could see them in the plane. That's I've seen them in the plane many times, but like when you're on the ground, I think it was last summer here. Um I was getting, I came out of a I was downtown, we were going to a play or whatever, and we're on a parking garage in downtown Cleveland, and we're looking over the lake, lear Lake Erie, and people are like, Look at the Northern lights, look at the Northern lights. And I'm looking up and I'm like, I don't see shit. Like you you you look you see the pictures, you know, you see the pictures and you Google the northern lights, you see all these like beautiful, like green effervescence and the you know floating in the air and all that stuff. I didn't see anything, like there was nothing. But the coolest thing is that because of our eyes and or the naked eye, if you take your camera on your phone and just turn on your camera and point it at the sky, boom.

SPEAKER_02: 48:14

That's light. I was gonna say your your camera on your phone. That's that's what they all talk about doing.

SPEAKER_01: 48:20

Yeah, it was really, really cool. So I was like, I was like, this is like this is a cool thing. So people like if you're out tonight, well or out this week or whatever it's uh when you're hearing this and you're having a northern light experience. I mean, here, I want to give you some tips about their your camera because you know I'm a I'm a photographer, I do a lot of photography and stuff like that. And uh the one thing that like drives me nuts, drives me nuts when I see like everybody taking photos, they always take photos horizontally. Like it's like click pointing at you, click, you know, like that's not the aspect of like taking a photo. If you want to take a photo of the Northern Lights, turn your freaking phone on the side, make it horizontal, get that 16 by 9 aspect, or you can go in your your settings and click from a 4.3 aspect to a 16.9, and um yeah, get do that landscape, right? The other thing you want to do is you definitely want to like take your exposure level and uh you want to make that turn that into a negative value. So, however, it doesn't matter if you're in an Android or you're an iPhone or whatever type of phone you're on, you want to just get it to you know a lower value so that it like it's more sensitive to the light, so you can see that stuff. But most phones, I mean just by looking with your phone and you're seeing the camera and you just point it up at the sky, you'll be able to see the northern lights. And then the cool way to capture it is if you could put it on a tripod, if you have a chance to do that, and then do a long exposure where you're doing like a second or a half a second just of of like the the shutter opening and closing, right? Uh you're gonna have more time to see that light like expose onto the the sensor and it will capture it. It's cool, dude. But yeah, that that's what that's the um that's what's going on here. Northern lights.

SPEAKER_02: 50:17

Yeah, I love the northern lights. We get we get such a great great shot of them. I don't know. We're not gonna have you sing it. I was getting ready to bust out, but hey, I had to tell you about this one though. Flight attendant was found now. Get this. This is crazy. Ten times over the legal limit. Whoa. Ten times. Whoa. After drinking multiple mini bottles of vodka on a flight from San Francisco to London. That flight attendant was ripped, jacked. Jacked. So they later tested their tests, recorded 216 milligrams of alcohol per milliliter of blood. Now in the UK, the limit per for performing aviation functions is now get this 20 milligrams. 20. And this person had 216. 26, dude. We talked about this. We talked about this before how stupid intoxicated is on an airplane. It's even utterly ridiculous when it's a crew member. But then you do it into a an into another country. Yeah. That's that's scary. On stupid, right? Because you go to prison.

SPEAKER_01: 51:34

Well, yeah, because you don't know what the laws are. Yeah. If you're not like paying attention and looking those things up and figuring out what the laws are to the destination you're going to, which nobody does. Right. Right. I mean, you can get yourself in a world hurt there. I mean, here's a funny thing, like, because we're gonna take ourselves back. Like back in the day, when we first got our job and we were young flight attendants and you know, drinking and stuff on the plane. And this is like, we're old flight attendants. So in the days when we were talking about, we're talking about before drug testing and all that stuff came in. Like, we would go to work and flight attendants would be sitting there having a you know a coffee and you know, throwing some Kluar or some Bailey's in their coffee, and it was just it was nothing, just a casual little sip here and there, whatever. That was that happened constantly back in the day. And then they started, you know, saying, Oh, you know what? The world gets started against Park. Alcohol on planes, doesn't matter who you are, is not smart.

SPEAKER_02: 52:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 52:30

You know, stupid. And so, so like this is like grown, and we've now, you know, educated ourselves, and we're here now at a state where you know most, I mean, most of the US carriers, you know, you can't drink for like 12 hours before your flight. Right. You know. Um, I think the FAR says eight, but the airlines even made it more strenuous because they don't want their crews intoxicated on their plane. But I mean, to do it in this day and age and to do it to the level that this person did, it's crazy to think how many times this person did this w without getting caught.

SPEAKER_02: 53:06

Right. Right? They I mean they they they did this and this this time they went overboard, but that's freaking crazy. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 53:12

I think that crew member, you know, now I'm reflecting back. That crew member I went to Athens with, I think she was drunk. Something, something. She had a stupid.

SPEAKER_02: 53:26

No, she just wasn't good. I mean, we have those. I mean, we call those out all the time. Now, they a lot of our fighters can say, Oh, that's not very nice. But it's the truth. We got ones just like anybody else, they're not good. They're not good at it. I mean, you know, they're just they're not good. They've been here for years. We have ones that have been here for years, and you look at them and you're like, You haven't been paying attention.

SPEAKER_01: 53:47

No.

SPEAKER_02: 53:48

Right? No, you haven't been paying attention this whole time. What were you doing? What were you doing the whole time? Because you weren't paying attention to service.

SPEAKER_01: 53:58

Yeah.

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Because you're not good.

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I'm getting married this week. What? Exactly.

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What are you talking about? That's their response. Oh, six seven.

SPEAKER_01: 54:08

That's their response. Yeah. What what were you doing back then? Um I get married. I planted some flowers this morning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 54:18

Anyway, um, what were you supposed to be doing? Oh my God. It's the truth, though. I mean, you you guys have them in your careers. We have them in our scene. Dude, I mean, like, uh, craziness. We do. Okay, so uh last guy we're gonna talk about him. This guy starts undressing. He dropped, he he dropped down to his boxers at TSA. I mean, unless you're requested. He was naked as J Bird. Right? I mean, they'll they'll give you a cordial little rub down. Yeah. I mean, but you ain't gotta go all the way down to your damn boxes. No. People maybe got a little carried away.

SPEAKER_01: 54:53

I mean, I I gotta say, you know, like going through TSA can be frustrating at times. And I mean, even for like when we're going through as crew members, like we've gone through a million times, and every now and then we'll get that TSA employee that just rubs us the wrong way because they're being like extra crazy about their job. Yeah, you know, like we get every job gets it, yeah. Yeah, we get through the whole thing and you get frustrated. Like I was telling you, uh, I think we were talking about me coming in from Cancun, and I got the new hire that was like sergeant, you know, ready to do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 55:27

And he was like, Sir, hold out your hands straight.

SPEAKER_01: 55:31

And then like pull them up, you know. Like it was like he was like barking orders at me, and I was like, dude, you need to tone it down. Just bring it back a little bit. Bring it a little bit down. I'm gonna work back. I'm gonna work with you. Yeah, exactly. This is not how you work, and and and the crazy thing is his trainer wasn't really telling them to tone down. And I was like, you need to dress this dude. Just focus. You're gonna have a you're gonna airline crew member incident.

SPEAKER_02: 55:56

Excuse me, sir. Focus on the guy in his boxers over there to the left. Okay, I'm I'm not your biggest threat today. This man over here, yeah, he's in his boxers. Yeah, there's a little bit of a threat.

SPEAKER_01: 56:10

Yeah, and there's Mickey Mouses all over him. What do you think about people or specifically men with long fingernails? Nasty.

SPEAKER_02: 56:24

Nasty. You need to clip them. Dude. That one. They like there's some guys that have that one long finger. Fingernail. What is that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 56:33

I mean, it was like a cocaine nail or something. Yeah, it used to be like in back in the day. I mean, back in the days, everybody would be like, oh, you had that one nail, and they're sniffing one nail, putting put coke in the nail. Like that, like that pinky nail. Right, right, right. And then sniffing it up, and they're like, you know, they got their own little coke shovel.

SPEAKER_00: 56:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 56:50

You know, but uh today's we're I don't know. Dude, I don't ear wax. I I like I'm having this thing right now, like, you know, me and feet. You know, I can't stand feet, but I can't stand long fingernails. And I don't care if they're male or female, like long ass fingernails gross me out.

SPEAKER_02: 57:08

Guys, I mean, when but at least when a woman grows hers out, that I mean, they paint them. A guy's it's like the yellowing.

SPEAKER_01: 57:17

Well, when I see guys and they're painted, that's a problem with that too.

SPEAKER_02: 57:21

I know, I know that, but I'm just saying it the ones that grow that long nail out. Right. Because usually it's like one long nail.

SPEAKER_01: 57:29

Yeah. I just encountered this the other day. I was out and out and about and whatever, and I get on this elevator, and there's this older gentleman on the elevator, and he was very kind and funny and stuff like that. But I looked, I looked down and just happened to like catch his hand. He had his hand out in front of him or whatever for whatever reason, and he had like three-inch nails. All of them, like many of them, not all of them, just many of them were like real long, and and they weren't painted. It was just like, you know, the bone color. Nasty. It was just I was like, I almost like projectile bombing in the elevator. But here's another thing that happened to me on my vacation. I wanted to kind of like, I forgot to tell you about this, because this shit was out of control comical. We're in Palm Springs, we're getting ready to go out to dinner. Me and uh my boy that was with me, right? Dougie Doug. He's like uh the all you know world traveler business guy, right? So I come out of my room and I'm like, I got dressed, and I walk out, and his wife looks at me, Kim, and she looks at me and she's like, um, Sean? She goes, I don't know how to tell you this, but I'm pretty sure that you and Doug are wearing the same shirt tonight. You guys called each other or what?

SPEAKER_02: 59:03

Did you you guys brought the same shirt? Are you serious?

SPEAKER_01: 59:07

We had the same identical shirt from the same company, the whole nine years. Like both of us are like, I don't, I know you don't know this company. Did you wear it? One of my favorite shirt companies called Mezi and Maine. But did you wear it? No, we didn't wear it. Dude, we're in Palm Springs. If we would have worn it, they would have been like, there's two gay guys and two gay girls, and they're just part of the part of the scene, normal scenery here. Exactly. You see that there, and Doug's like, I'm not going out with you like that. I go, so who's changing? He he rolled back in room change, but I was like, it was the crazy like we've been on vacation so many times with these people, and we have never ever in the world, and like I don't think I've ever seen him in that shirt or anything, whatever, but we do like that same company, right? And we bought the same shirt. I seen a video.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:03

I seen a video one time that all the women got together and the men, they they bought their men all the same shirt.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:10

They bought their men well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:11

Yeah, and when and when they they were showing up to eat at this restaurant. They all came down in the same place. Every guy, because they listened to their wives about what they want what they want them to wear. Right. So they're like, Yeah, I want you to wear this shirt. Just wear this.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:30

There's a wife joke on the old.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:31

Yeah, exactly. All the guys had the same shirt on. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:34

Yeah. So but your your case is a little different. Yeah, because we were like totally unplanned. I was just like, this is crazy. And so now every time I'm packing my Mezi and Main and calling and oh FYI, for all you that are travelers that are out there, men travelers, and want to know some these shirts are amazing. You can roll them up, you can scrunch them up, you can throw them in your bag. They don't wrinkle, they look great. You can dress them up, dress them down. It's just a great like travel. You know, like when you find those, like when Lululemon just first came out with the ABC pants. It was like, oh, these are great, comfortable pants. I can go anywhere with them, and just like they're loose and comfortable.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:14

And you can even call a buddy and tell him to bring his too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:17

Yeah, bring yours. Say we're at the same time. All right, anyways, let's talk about the inspirational quote. So the inspirational quote is ambition is good, but timing needs to be right. Think about that. I did. Right when you said it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:40

And what do you think about that? That ambition is good and timing needs to be right. Because you're your timing actually, your timing needs to be right. I mean, in life. I mean, you know, it's it's the right time for something.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:51

It it came out of that that show that I watched, and it was um the dude that showed that was about his name is Dennis Hasabasis. Or I probably just mutilated mutilated his name, but super, super intelligent guy, and and it was about this. It was about like us envisioning technology and us like being ambitious to do something, and it doesn't matter how ambitious you are, if you're not in the right time and error to do it, it's impossible. So even if we have like right now, we're in the cusp of like having the most amazing AI, and AI's helping us in all this like cool things right now and health, and you know, the people, many people keep on talking and saying, like, we're on the cusp of figuring out how to you know cure cancer. Right. I mean, that's that'll be profound to the human race. But right now, like if the technology's not there, and it was kind of like these guys back in like the 50s that were like that originally thought up AI, and they were like, Oh, if computers would be smarter than humans and blah blah blah and all this stuff, and then they realized that the technology at the time it ain't gonna happen, right? So timing's everything about your ambition. That's about a 6'7. You were just dying to say that. I was waiting.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:14

Hey you guys, we had a lot of fun this week. Uh it's been a great show. And you know, uh, just want to remind you guys uh get to the planes, sit down, enjoy your trip. God, we don't like taking anybody off. So you guys don't don't make any of your crews your enemies, man. We want to take you to your destinations. We want you guys to have a great trip, and we want to see you on the return trip because see, when you realize realize that your iPad was was that that was it was yours turned on, that we can all laugh about it, and then uh we can uh we can have a store.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:46

Exactly.

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So hey, you guys have a great week, and we will see you next time on Cabin Pressure. Next week.

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Cabin pressure.

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Bye.

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