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Plate-Tapping, Alligator Hands, And Other Turbulence We Didn’t Need

• Shawn & G • Episode 63

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Ever wonder which flights make crews groan and which ones make the day fly by? We open the cabin door on a week packed with real aviation life: a shredded run-flat, a surprisingly meaningful Amazon Flex route delivering food-bank packages, and a chance meeting with a flight attendant who started at Pan Am in 1968 and went on to log 47 years in the sky. Her stories bridge the 707 era to modern long-hauls—and a three-week cat-sitting adventure in Rome that says everything about the friendships aviation forges.

From there, we get brutally honest about crew dynamics and service standards. One lazy teammate can sink a cabin; a hustler can lift an entire flight. We trade fixes for sanity-sapping galley habits (yes, the eternal spoon tapping) and talk timing strategy: why morning flights beat afternoon chaos and how that one choice can save your holiday travel. If you’re planning Thanksgiving trips, we share practical tips—no fluff—to dodge the domino delays and rebook faster than the crowd.

We also map the routes that test patience by culture and habit. India for relentless service demands and special meals, China for language friction on massive services, Middle East flights where personal space norms collide, and Caribbean and Philippines routes where baggage becomes a puzzle of wrapped bundles and slow overheads. Stateside, Newark to West Palm and cruise waves into Fort Lauderdale challenge speed and expectations. Along the way, we touch news shaping travel: DOT easing compensation rules for ATC-driven delays, the eyebrow-raising sentence for a jumpseater who tried to kill engines on shrooms, streaming power plays that ended fast when sports went dark, and Bezos’ new AI bet, Project Prometheus.

It’s a ride through aviation as it is: human, messy, funny, and full of craft. If you love behind-the-scenes airline stories, practical travel strategy, and a little turbulence with your coffee, you’re in the right seat. Subscribe, share with a friend who travels, and leave a review to keep the seatbelt signs off and the good times rolling. What’s the toughest route you’ve ever flown or survived as a passenger?

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SPEAKER_02:

Welcome back to Cabin Pressure with Sean and G, the only podcast where G meets a 47-year flight attendant from Pan Am while I'm out here fighting for my life against a flat tire and a judgmental sorting hat.

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Yeah, Sean's out delivering meals with Amazon Flex like his father, Teresa. Meanwhile, I flew with a legend who's been in the skies since the 707, and someone who should have never passed training, but apparently said everything the interviewer wanted to hear.

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Today we're talking best flights, worst destinations, culture chaos at 35,000 feet. And white people must tap their plates like they're summoning spirits.

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Buckle up or don't, someone on your last flight probably didn't anyway. This is episode 63. Let's get weird.

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Ah You ready?

SPEAKER_01:

That was scary. What? That was what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, are you not a Bruno Mars fan? Uh are you not even listening to like current events and stuff? No, did you just hear that? I did.

SPEAKER_01:

That didn't sound anything like Bruno. If anybody's having a problem, they play that shit back because you didn't sound anything like Bruno.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, dude, I am uh Bruni, maybe, but not Bruno. Right, right, right, right. That was freaking scary.

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Shit.

SPEAKER_02:

You're crazy, man. Anyhow, man, uh, check it out, man. I have been like running around uh doing the thing like I normally, you know, you know, like my name, normal shit, you know. And uh this last weekend we went to this thing called the Harry Potter experience. Have you heard of that? Nope. You haven't heard of that? No. The the um so it's this thing is traveling.

SPEAKER_00:

First of all, where is it?

SPEAKER_02:

It's it's all over the United States. It's kind of like a traveling show thing, like going on right now, but right now it's in Cincinnati. And so, anyhow, so we uh took my nieces and all that stuff down to uh the this Harry Potter experience, which is it's freaking unbelievable. I mean, it has like um every it's just it's like Harry Potter world, it's a 90-minute experience, all right. So, anyways, um you go down there, you have all these different um like like different areas, and they got ones and they got all this crap going on where it's like you know, uh there's you know the Harry Potter, like you can cast spells and stuff, and so they got all these different stations that the different stations you can like do these different cells and like these animatronic things, like actually do stuff, which is cool as shit. Right. Anyways, but the the coolest thing, the coolest thing in the whole thing is that are you familiar with like Harry Potter and the sword you had?

SPEAKER_01:

I've seen all of them. That's why I was gonna ask you. Did it cover all of them or just like the early years of Harry Potter?

SPEAKER_02:

I I think it was like like um more of you know, like the first couple, and then they got into a couple of things that were later on in the series. But if you'd only watched like the first two movies or read the first two books, pretty much you had everything. Right. There was like maybe two or three things that were outside of those those books. So it was it was super cool, but they got to you know, the sword and hand to put the damn hat on T T and he's like, ah, so cunning, and uh, you know, and like and you're witty and whatever and all this shit, right? And so they put it on, you know, Carol and they put it all the all the all the so what they would do is they'd look and see what you're wearing because a lot of people were coming there all dressed up, right? So it was like they were like had like the different school houses on there, Hufflepuff, Gryffindor, all these things, right? And so uh they put it on me.

SPEAKER_01:

And so here's the thing, he's like he's they didn't even know who they put it on, right? They wouldn't the biggest kid of all, right?

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And I'm sitting in there, and uh I don't have to post this picture, man. And so I'm sitting under it, and he's like cunning, witty, blah, blah, blah, you know, and all this. I don't know what the hell he's saying, but he's like, Slithering. I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, Slytherin. Great, great. I'm the I'm the I'm the villain. You're the villain.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. That was perfect. That was absolutely perfect.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So um But you got a picture?

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Yeah, I got a picture of me. I got this, you got I gotta show you the one of my wife. My wife, she gets it, and like she like acts like she's like, like, ah, you know, this is like she's like amazed about whatever, I don't know what school, you know, school she got.

SPEAKER_01:

Did they give her like a little hat?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they like she wouldn't. No, there's the the the sorting hack actually comes down on top of you. There's this giant sorting and then it's talking like the damn thing's talking. And so, anyways, uh she has a hilarious picture. Her picture turned out like the best.

SPEAKER_01:

Did they get a they didn't get a video of you with slithering?

SPEAKER_02:

No, not a video, they just got a picture.

SPEAKER_01:

The video would have been perfect, right? The hat talking over top of your right, right? Nasty. NASDAQ, nasty mean guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that ain't you, but that's funny as shit. Right, right. That is good.

SPEAKER_02:

So, anyhow, um, so the other thing that happened on this weekend was you know, Carol's driving. We have two cars, we have a parked car over in Indiana now because we're over there so often. And so that keeps me like from being trapped, you know, because I normally had to like sit around the old folks' home all day long, right? And so um this uh Carol's running around and she has that old five series that we have, and they grinded down one of the roads, and she's going down this road, and she hits one of those manhole covers. And I'm talking, she splits the shit out of the side of the wall the tire. Like I mean, it was it was it was freaking. I mean, it it was crazy how like bad it was like cut on the side of the tire. Yeah, and so she was like flipping out, like just like losing her mind, losing her shit. And I was like, it's okay, it's okay. I'm like, they're run flats, and she's like, No, they're not. So we get in this big argument about they're run flats or not run flats, they're run flats. They're really so now I'm like trying to call around. This has happened at about three o'clock in the afternoon on a Saturday, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we could have a whole podcast on run flats, too.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, right, right, right. I mean gonna do it, but we could. So so so, anyways, I'm looking for a tire to replace this so I can get through the weekend, right? So and and it's like, you know, good luck. Yeah, good luck with that. And so um we get this tire fix and all this stuff, but run flats are shit, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Plus are more expensive, right? I mean, they cost a lot more money.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean they they cost a lot of money, they um are good luck finding them. But here's the here's the thing. When you when you get a flat with another tire, it's like take it in, get it patched and all that stuff, right? Yep. But with a run flat, toss that shit into garbage. Yeah, it's gone. Yeah, I mean, neither it's it's freaking done. Yeah. So uh, anyways, man, um I'm just like that was the crazy thing about the whole stuff. And um the other thing, I don't know if I told you this too, but um, did I tell you that like I had I'd signed up like not only was I signed up with Uber and all this stuff, I had signed up with Amazon, Amazon Flex Service. You know what that is?

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

So Amazon Flex Service is like that uh, you know, like is like the Uber of Amazon. So delivery? Yeah, yeah. So you're you're like a a personal uh you know how you like see the guys call it roll up in their own cars and stuff, yeah, get a car and drive delivering packages. Those guys are Amazon Flex drivers, and they have a program where you sign up with Amazon and you can go out and you can s you know service a certain route. Right. And then all it's really it's super easy. So I I had like signed up years ago, and I two, three years ago, and they finally like a few months ago and they were like, Oh, you know, hey, we need some drivers, and because the holidays are coming up and all this stuff, and it's the service is expanding now and all that stuff. So so I decided you know, I'll go check it out just to check it out. Well, I didn't know this man, but like you get get on the app and it gives you all these like um uh you know like a block of the what you're supposed to serve and all that stuff, and so the um the the block that you that the that I'm doing, I it just kind of like the app you just like hit it. So if anybody's done like you know, Grubhub, Uber Eats, DoorDash, all that crap, right? You can you can literally like push the app and it tells you where to go. Well, it's the same thing with the flex. And this time I go and I get there and I get I'm thinking I'm going to this big giant Amazon warehouse place, right, to pick it up. Dude, I roll up into this, like it's like a food bank.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just picturing this. So when you when you roll up there, okay, is it just for one package or are you like picking up like five or ten?

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, no, no. It's like it's like uh so this delivery that I did was um 18 deliveries.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so is it mapped out for you?

SPEAKER_02:

So it's yeah, mapped like like literally you hit the app and it tells you where your first delivery is, second delivery, third, and it just goes around the route. It tries to make the like most you know easy route as possible to to do that and stuff, anyways. So um yeah, I was like, I was like, you know, this is this is wild. I'm like, why am I delivering food from a food bank? And so lo and behold, man, I didn't know this, but for like since 2020, Amazon signed up for this whole thing where they're like uh they're doing these community service, so they pay their deliver delivers, so they paid me to go do this, and now instead of the food banks, people coming to the food banks, they're delivering the food to the people.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, you've done some of the craziest shit over the years. I think of all the shit you've done, right? I mean, really. I mean, you you never needed to.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't I don't need to.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. But you did anyway.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. I'm I'm I'm I'm doing it for the experience.

SPEAKER_01:

I know that. But I'm saying, think about that. Like you did the Uber right when it started, right? All the Uber, Uber Eats. They were on shit show at the beginning, and now you're an Amazon flex guy. You got so many damn hats, dude.

SPEAKER_02:

You like that?

SPEAKER_01:

You'd be like the extensive array of hairnets.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll I'll I'll try anything.

SPEAKER_01:

I know that that's cool. I know, I like that. I love that because you that that is you. I mean, the no one really knows that. I mean, I I know that you do all kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just like an explorer. Like, you know, like some the one cool thing about the whole day, the whole Amazon thing is that I was like, this is really fucking cool. Like, I'm like, this is a community service that that nobody really knows is happening because everybody's trying to like badmouth the big industry, you know. Like people love Amazon or hate Amazon, you know, like it's the big monster, you know, it's killing stores, which it is, you know, like we can talk forever about all that stuff. But at the same time, they are doing some community good service stuff, and this is the this is the thing that they're doing, is that Amazon flex.

SPEAKER_01:

See, I'm I'm more talking about the you doing the shit because I was I was laughing. I was thinking last week whenever we we did the podcast, and we were I was walking out, and you're following me, and I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, uh, I'm I'm going Uber Eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you you actually pay for your education by doing Uber Eats.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Like I mean, a lot of people, and nobody would do that. They'd be like, Oh, I'm just gonna pay for it. You you found a cool way to pay for it, and then there you go.

SPEAKER_02:

Hell yeah. I'm telling you right now, any anybody that's gonna pay for your education, sign up and do it. Yeah, like it it is a freaking, you know. That's you. That's it, man. So what have you been doing?

SPEAKER_01:

Had an amazing week. I mean, I I've been flying my freaking butt off, man. When I started the week off, it was LA turn, and then uh picked up like a 15 and a half hour two-day, which is big time two-day. Then I topped that off with a 17 and a half hour two-day. You're crazy. So my five days were, I mean, I'm let me tell you, they were fun-filled. And you know, it's funny, but because this week we're actually talking about some of the things um that I went through and and destinations. We're gonna get to that a little bit later, but um the the fun destinations that we have and what time we we actually like to fly. But I'm I flew some amazing people, flight attendants, and and actually passengers. And some of them were actually a flight attendant and passenger, you know, I mean, on the same flight. But then, you know, you you know, when you fly a load position, a load a load position for us is you're an individual that meets up with a like a nucleus of a crew, and then you'll fly on multitude of aircraft. You're like the extra flight attendant. So, you know, you're you're running in all these different these different crew members, and uh one of the one of the ones I had to start off with this person, lazy as shit, Sean.

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Lazy as shit.

SPEAKER_01:

I you know me. I will I will call I'll call a flight attendant out as fast as I'll call a passenger out, right?

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Right.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, you know, if if you're lazy, you're lazy. It's one of these people that you know when we look at them, we're like, hey, who hired you? You want to go back and really talk to that person.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right? Dude, because they ain't been here that long.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh I I get to the point where it's like, you know, like I I hate when people are like so bad that they're like, they're just an anchor. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like you, you you were doing extra work because they're shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, this person, I mean, okay, this person was like, oh, you you're going you're going out again? How how many, how many services are we gonna do? I was like, we ain't doing any. You know, your ass has been sitting over there since you know and watch me do uh the I did all the beverage the whole freaking cabin.

SPEAKER_02:

I bet you anything they didn't go out picking up trash, you know, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Beverage the cabin, coffee service. What because you know, I uh hey, look, people pay a lot of money to fly. So I'm I'm out there all the time, you know, giving them coffee, water, whatever, even in between services because that's they deserve that. When they're I mean, they're they're paying a lot of money to travel. And then you got people back there not doing a damn thing, they just sit back there. And then they look at you like, oh, you're you're doing way too much. They're not doing too much. It's people want something to drink, you give it to them. The ghost in the galley. Yeah. I mean, they don't leave. And then they look at you like, oh, are we doing something else? I'm looking at this person going, no, we're we're not doing anything. But again, it goes back to the the same thing as like who who hired this person, but the bad thing about it is that they're out there now, right? Right. I mean, they're doing it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they're not they're in the freaking system. We gotta we and we gotta get them out of there. But I mean, you know, and the and the crazy thing is like as I think about some of these idiots that we've flown with over the years that were so bad, like they usually just weed themselves out, right? Like they don't cut the cheese anyway, so they can't they can't get they'll eventually get fired or something like that or quit or whatever it is, but um, you know the people that are gonna be here and who isn't, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Right. But the crews are the ones that sacrifice and the passengers because the whole time that they're there, uh it it's a crew. I mean, a lot of flight attendants, even if you guys are listening to this, you know who we're talking about.

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Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, even if you don't like the fact that we're calling somebody out, you know, you know who we're talking about. Yeah. And and you know, this is this is what we do. We'll we'll call we'll call the lazy people out too. But anyway, thank God I only had that one lazy person, right? But I flew with this other flight attendant. Do you remember do you remember uh Kayla that we interviewed a while back? Oh yeah.

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Okay, so I flew with this crazy energetic Kayla.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. So I flew with this other flight attendant, and we had gotten in, she got into this conversation about um dating also. It was funny as shit. I'm not telling, I'm telling you, it's so what was she saying? Well, we were talking about like uh when we were talking, I I was telling her about us interviewing Kayla, and she was like, she put her head down and she goes, I've got my own stories. And I'm like, what do you mean? And she goes, she goes, Well, you know, I I went out with these guys and and and she I couldn't, you know, I couldn't figure out if it's if it's me or one am I attracting or whatever it is. And I'm like, what are you talking about? She goes, well, we went out and after after we got done eating, the bill came. Right. And she said that they were doing this thing, uh, and I have to show you this because it was called alligator hands.

SPEAKER_02:

It was like Where where's where where was my wallet?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, her dad her dad called it alligator hands. Now, first of all, who in the hell keeps your wallet up here on their chest? If you're like if you're like pouncing around on your chest, you already know you left that shit at home. Right? Or you just meant to not do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Have you ever been on a like date back in the day where you forgot your wallet or anything like that?

SPEAKER_01:

No, but like never? No, no, but no, we're gonna no, I haven't. I haven't because I you got it, it's back there. Right. It's in your wallet, you know that it's there. Okay, right. But today, there's kind of no excuse. You have Apple Pay. Dude, there's all kinds of ways to pay. You don't have to have your wallet with you. Venmo me? You can use your watch. Even if could be but could you imagine being the female and you're sitting there like, oh yeah, it's a really nice dinner. Um, can you pay? So she she had to she had to she had to get get her card out and pay for this, right? Right. And so I'm like, did he did he Venmo you? And she no. I'm like, he didn't even Venmo you the money back? And she goes, she goes, no. So she goes out and and uh and months later she goes out with another person. Happened again.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no, happened again. Does she have like free meal on her forehead? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know, but I but I was telling her, I said, you know what would have been the funniest would have been the third one. And she goes, What do you mean? I said, well, if I heard that story two times, the third time, like if I was going out with somebody like that and I heard them, and I heard them say that when that bill came, you know those little little monitors like when you tap the pay, you know, I mean you pay at the you pay at the um at the uh table, would it have been funny as hell if you heard all this, you know that two guys didn't pay for her, and then what I was telling her, I said, I I'd have probably tapped that thing with the card and then just looked at it and then put my hands over my head, and and she goes, what? And I'm like, declined.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what you just a jack with her. You like use a hotel key like or something like this, this ain't working.

SPEAKER_01:

I told her I was like, I would so have just went just gone with that and go, Gina. Oh shit, declined. Declined. Yeah, three alligators in a row. Yeah, oh my god. So anyway, I don't got it. She was hilarious. I actually she I I told her um, you know, and she wants to come on the podcast, so we're gonna have fun with her and that conversation later on. But I ran into this other flight attendant, this older flight attendant uh came to the back and we we got in this conversation, and and she had been flying 47 years.

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47 years.

SPEAKER_01:

47.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, that's a long time. I mean, we're getting close, but 47's we're not we're not there, but she looked great.

SPEAKER_01:

Anyway, the story that was that's what the part that was amazing. Me and her got in this conversation. She had spent uh we're gonna we're gonna actually I got I got permission from her, I got some pictures, and we're gonna actually post those on the on the website, okay, of when she got pinned. Uh, but she flew for Pan Am. Oh, that's sweet, dude.

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Iconic, right? Like, listen, that like those people, those gals that I've run into in the whole system that are like these these freaking, you know, oh, they were hired in the 60s, like crap like that, 70s. I'm like, whoo, those are those are amazing. Like those are the people we we definitely need to get somebody like that on the show. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

She looked just as good shape, I mean, she today. I mean, it it was amazing. I mean, absolutely amazing. But the the the conversation was the best, so because we started talking about her 17 years at Pan Am.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, and then she came on and she spent 30 years at United. Oh, wow. Yeah, 47 years total. Yeah. And then, you know, she started on.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, she had to be somebody else because we know we know for sure Pan Am didn't last 47 years. Nope.

SPEAKER_01:

No, they didn't, but they she started at the 700 the 707. Wow. Okay, now get this. She she she'd been retired for 10 years. She started in 68. Holy shit. How old were you?

SPEAKER_02:

Three. Mm-hmm. Right? You're you're how old were you? Two.

SPEAKER_01:

Probably still crapping myself. Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, both of us were shitting on her.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, that's what I'm saying. But then we started stingy diapers and all. Yeah, so we started talking about like the old planes and 747s DC 10s and stuff that we were flying. And we had we had this great conversation, but the best part was where she was going. So she was heading, she was heading to Rome. Oh, okay. Now, what happened was years ago, she had a friend that flew for for one of the airlines, and she had a was in a conversation with her, and one of her friends needed a cat sitter. So for three weeks, she's going to Rome to cat sit for these people. Now you just got a three-week vacation.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

Free. All because of like this job. I mean, she's been retired for 10 years. This person just had a friend that needed a cat sitter.

SPEAKER_02:

I think I got a new job. Going to Rome. Another, I'm gonna be a mobile pet sitter.

SPEAKER_01:

That's amazing, man. All over the world. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll fly there wherever you need.

SPEAKER_01:

That is freaking amazing, though.

SPEAKER_02:

Crazy. That's freaking that's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. So going on to another person. So you know, when you you started commuting. Yeah. Started and what do you think about the commute now? Has it been all right?

SPEAKER_02:

Um commutes all right. I mean I've only done it once, right? Right. Next month I'm getting ready to do it again once. Uh I think I'm doing Dubai next month, by the way.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So, you know, my commute's not bad because it's like hour over to New York and you know, it's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_01:

So I thought of you with these other flight attendants. What's that? So on the jump seat, so I had I had these flight attendants. They they were um they were talking about their commutes. I was thinking, well, Sean's got that commute to Newark. It's 50 minutes.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Okay. That could turn into like five, ten hours.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. I just flew with this this Maria. She's based out in um LA. Amazing. I would love to have flown an international flight with this lady. It's been around here for like 32 years. You know where she commutes from? No, man. Taipei. Taipei? Taipei. Makes your Newark seem really easy, doesn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Taipei. Dude, uh I don't want any type of commute. It always blows my mind when we like we run into flight attendants. They're like, where do you commute from? And they're somewhere in Europe or somewhere in South America or whatever. Like they're doing serious commutes. Whereas like my commute's like, it's a commute, but it's not nothing like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Nothing even as bad as as Maria was. And like I said, a little shout out to Maria because I I she's a phenomenal flight attendant. Really? I mean, she's old school. We were talking about the difference, you know, with old school flight attendants, but uh definitely old school flight attendant, a hard worker, and a great flight attendant, but it was a lot of fun. But Taipei, 13-hour flight. Wow. And yours is 50 minutes. I don't ever want to hear you cry.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm going to Newark. You want to hear crying?

SPEAKER_01:

I know, I know. But now, now this next one even beats Maria.

SPEAKER_02:

What's that?

SPEAKER_01:

So coming from LA, going down to Houston on a jump seat, flight attendant came on. She had to ride the jump seat because uh the flight was full. So what that means is whenever you're past traveling uh on an airline, flight's completely booked. We have jump seats, a flight attendant, extra jump seat a flight attendant can uh sit on. So she came back to the back and she was sitting on the jump seat with me. So we just started discussing about where she lived and and uh you know her her commute. Right. Now, yours and Maria's is nothing compared to this girl. Now, this girl just started the day off. She she flew from Newark to LA. That was her work part of the day, right? She had to wait a couple hours. She jumped on my flight from LA to Houston on the jump seat. So we were talking about, you know, her family and everything going and where they moved to. You know where they moved to, Sean?

SPEAKER_03:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

Brazil. Okay. So so now imagine, packs up the whole family, moves to Brazil. They're all surfers, they like to surf. She's she was telling me about how the the the salt water and she got something in her eye and stuff. I'm gonna get back to that. But um, so she ends this gon roo, gonru or something like that in in San Pablo. So she is going to Houston to sit for two hours to fly nine and a half hours to San Paulo. Not done, Sean. Not done. So she gets there, she has a two and a half hour Uber home.

SPEAKER_02:

Two and a half hours, but no. I mean, this is this commute is like uh mind-boggling. Like what you gotta really, really, really love where you're going.

SPEAKER_01:

She is absolutely hilarious, man. And and she she has such a great attitude towards it. And she was like talking about the salt water, and I said the salt water seeped into the brain. Yeah, it went right past the eye socket.

SPEAKER_02:

She's got some serious salt water stuck between something.

SPEAKER_01:

But she's I mean, she was actually really funny though. I mean, I uh I I enjoy talking to her. Uh she said that she's going to tune into the podcast, so shout out to her too. Those were our amazing traveling, commuting flight attendants, and you go to Newark. Dude, you know, don't be a hater. Not got not a hater. But then this next one, see, this five days was just filled with all this stuff. Do you do you ever when you're eating uh in the galley? Okay, you're eating your meal, we bring it. We usually we we bring our own food. But all the all the time. Right. But when you have when you have a flight attendant that's over next to you, have you ever had like a meal tapper, a plate tapper?

SPEAKER_02:

No, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01:

Tink ting ting ting. What do they want to make a toast? Yogurt. You know what I mean? They got yogurt in a bowl. Oh, and then like eating and shit?

SPEAKER_02:

Like they're just trying to scoop it up and then rattling.

SPEAKER_01:

Trying to get the yogurt off the plate. The last bit. Tink, tink, tink, tink, tink. I'm over on the jump seat going, if I hear that fucking tink one more time, I swear to God. I I mean, it was just like it was driving me absolutely crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that that does like like that little clink, the the clink of the the silverware onto the dishes and stuff, does get annoying when you like continuously do it.

SPEAKER_01:

Especially when you're in a small area.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But she wasn't like tink, tink, tink, trying to like get your attention.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it got my attention because of the tink, tink, tink. But anyway, it was that yogurt, and I was sitting there going, just wipe it up with your finger.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Because it was crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

But I did remember one of our pilots and do what G does is take out his tongue and just lick it all off.

SPEAKER_01:

No, one of our pilots, one of our pilots uh used to tell me that he used to do the same thing. And the captain, it used to annoy the shit out of him, uh, the captain all the time because they used to fly together. So you know what I did?

SPEAKER_02:

What's that?

SPEAKER_01:

I bought him baby spoons.

SPEAKER_02:

Those like little rubbery ones. The rubber ones, right?

SPEAKER_01:

I said no one, no one will ever hear your damn clinking ever again because of that, because of that shit.

SPEAKER_02:

The other thing that you do like, does this bother you the the um like when people like you can hear them like hit the the silverware or whatever on their teeth? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That's annoying. It's annoying. I mean, look listen, we don't say it, right? But we're in this little bitty small area, and I know there's probably things that that I do all the time. People are pissed, like that, you know something? I wish you couldn't do that. Yeah. But I don't clink and I don't bite a fork.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, it's it's funny that you're you're saying this because like um you know being uh I've been a lot around a lot of old people. Old people do all that shit. I know, you know, like it's like like they the older they get, they can't hear shit, they can't hear what they're doing. It's like absolutely hilarious. Like when you hear them and stuff like that. Not only are they like clinking and banging and like talking real loud and chewing real loud, showing their food, belching and farting, like they don't like they're doing they do, they're doing no filtering. They're doing like like they don't know, like it's just happening. Right. And and and I just got to I'm getting to the point where I'm like, dude, I I don't want to be around old people. Old people aren't cool. You you want to sit there and uh sorry. We're all we're all gonna go there though. We're getting we're already getting there. We're getting there. We're all we're all gonna get to the point where it's like you know, like you you're uh you can't hear your shit and all this stuff, you can't smell your shit.

SPEAKER_01:

We're old, man. We are old, but you know, something happened actually uh this week that was historical too. What's that? Printed the last uh five pennies.

SPEAKER_02:

Last five pennies. I knew those summon bitches going, man. Like I was telling you the other two weeks ago, like what are they cost three and a half cents to make one penny or something like that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but the the these last five is the more I want to talk about because they did this omega sign on them, and they're saying when they they put them in circulation, they're gonna be worth like five million bucks a piece.

SPEAKER_02:

Wait, did you say mega sign or omega? Omega sign. Omega, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. On that. And and they said they they could they could get like five million, five million bucks a piece.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, any of those like rare coins that are like that where you where it's uh you know, any anything, misprints, things like that, those are always more valuable to those collectors and stuff. Five of them.

SPEAKER_05:

The last five.

SPEAKER_02:

I got thousands and thousands of pill and pennies sitting in my bucket in my, you know, just sitting around.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it ain't gonna be those five.

SPEAKER_02:

That's and that's why we're not printing them because everybody never, you know, they all choose.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but nobody uses money anymore. Right. Right? We I mean they car, they tap, or if they unless they they actually go out with that flight attendant, then they don't use money at all either.

unknown:

Right?

SPEAKER_01:

They just alligator hand everything and they they they they don't they don't use money either. No change, no money, no nothing. Oh my gosh. All right, hey, I gotta ask you this. So we were talking about this flying. What is your favorite time to work? Is it morning, afternoon, evening? When you're when you actually start your day, what would you say?

SPEAKER_02:

Hmm. I would say, I mean, on like I'm not a morning person, but I'd like to work in the morning. Like, like I just want to get my day over with as quick as possible. So like if I can check in at a reasonable time, like six o'clock, you know, that like six o'clock and get done early in the even afternoon, that's perfect, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

So you yeah, me me morning, straight morning. Yeah, you know, I mean, I I'm a morning person.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, you are the morningest person I know.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. I want to get up, I want to get this shit done. But more so is I love those flights because you know, all those passengers have been up since like one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And as soon as they get on the airplane, we shut the lights down, let them all go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Best part. You know, the other thing about that the to go on top of this, what we talk about a little bit later here is that you know, the earlier you get started in the industry, you know, the less problems you're gonna have because all the aircraft are kind of like starting out that day, you know, getting the getting the routes going, and you know, shit isn't hitting fan yet. Right. So, you know, the earlier you can get a start on your day versus a later flight. Now, a lot of people like defer, like, I know my wife likes to fly in the afternoon, like she's and that's just because she doesn't she's not a morning morning person, right? Whereas, you know, that's when you start running into all the complications of the airline stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Later on the day. Weather comes in like Florida during the hurricane season later on in the afternoon, shit just goes to hell. You better make sure you get in there early. Yeah. So like I said, I I usually like I like flying early, but we got in a conversation. We were talking about what's the best and the worst routes. The best in the worst routes. I mean, the the biggest cultural mess of a route, what would you say?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I'm not first of all, I'm gonna preface this by saying I'm not trying to be discriminatory to anyone.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we're not going to. I mean, no, no.

SPEAKER_02:

Anytime when we talk about this habits, the but the habits of like uh the um different cultures versus other ones are a little bit more annoying to people than others. So I would say like going to like um India or heading over to like Tel Aviv or something like that, like those flights are very demanding. The the clientele are very demanding.

SPEAKER_01:

What would you mean? What would you mean going to India? You know it's India. It's not even a question. You know it is. You know it is. You talk to any flight attendant and they'll tell you it's India. It has nothing to do, it has nothing to do with about discrimination, rape. It's not anything like that. It's a very demanding flight.

SPEAKER_04:

Dude.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, you know, we look. Okay, now if you want to be fair, okay, let's let's we'll talk fair, right? Yeah, but we're gonna come back to India in a second. So if you want to say Americans and be fair, yeah, Americans are demanding. Newark to West Palm Beach. Horrible. Just damn, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Wheelchair city.

SPEAKER_01:

Nobody, I mean, uh it's one of those regrets. You know, it is. It's one of those regrets. You're like, oh, it looked good on paper. Nope, you're screwed.

SPEAKER_02:

Looked easy, man. This is supposed to be a quick turn.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Let's go back to India. So since you know that we're not being mean, right, right. This is not being mean. India is very, very demanding. And because a lot of times they travel with a lot of family, too.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, it's a the um like it's the just the demanding of like how they present themselves and like how they treat us on the aircraft. That's that's so hard about it. How they treat you? Like we're like we're all hopping. They treat you like crap.

SPEAKER_01:

It's I mean, it's it's known from the flight attendants. I mean, this is nothing we're making up. This is this is fact.

SPEAKER_02:

I need I need I need tea. You have tea? Mm-hmm. Cats have tea?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But the other thing too is like tons of meal requests because of their diet.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

They have to have certain meals because of their vegetarian city. And a lot of times it's it's uh they don't travel a lot, so it's they're not like frequent flyers.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

That destination is is a long destination. Big pain in the butt.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, there's other ones though.

SPEAKER_01:

China.

SPEAKER_02:

China.

SPEAKER_01:

China's a bad one.

SPEAKER_02:

China, yeah. Hmm. It's in a different way, though, right? Communication. Like it's yeah, more about like the language barrier and and us like how how because for the most part, like they seem to be pretty calm and docile. Right. But they're not tea, they're all hot water.

SPEAKER_01:

I said worse flights of work, but the thing is is that it's a communication thing because if you it's uh uh a lot of times we have language barriers. Sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Sure.

SPEAKER_01:

And you know, and the same thing with the Chinese one that's like tea, then you have no idea about what they want in it. Black, whatever it is. Yeah, it's simple things. But if you're doing a service and you got like 300 people, right, takes forever. Forever. Can't understand. They're trying to make their, you know, tell you what they want to eat or what they want to drink, it becomes a mess. It really does. I mean, now the other one, Middle East.

SPEAKER_02:

Middle East, man, and they are bad. They can they can get on your nerves, they can they can try your attentions, and you know what? There, it's about space. Right. Like it's not it's not like the uh, you know, I need the I need tea, I need water, I need hot water, all that stuff. It's not about that. It's like they're always in your space. Yeah, like they have a different space than us Americans. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

So that and this one, this one I know firsthand, Philippines. I used to fly there. What's that all about? Philippines is okay, they they bring everything. I mean, they pack up their freaking lives when they bring it, right? I mean, bags, I mean, bags, garbage bags, wrapped it. They they have those machines, you know how they wrap the plastic up and everything.

SPEAKER_02:

Spin the bags on the thing and wrap them up in plastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it looks like a cocoon when they get done with it. So they got all that shit packed up in there, and then a lot, you know, they have to go through customers, they gotta call cut all that off. But when they come on the plane, they're real slow. They're you know, they're trying to pack the luggage up. I mean, you know, that, and then also again, a lot of these destinations, what you'll understand there's it's big cultural differences that make them difficult.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. The like, so I kind of like relate them to the like the Caribbeans. The Caribbean folks are kind of like the same people. They like come on with all these weird, miscellaneous wrap bags and packages, and you know, the chicken and the goat and whatever they else can they can bring with them, you know. Like, we find it so inappropriate, but in their culture, I guess it's all normal.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, we're yeah, if it doesn't they try to stick it underneath their feet and you see their little knees or yeah, they want to they want to like stand on top of it. And the next thing you know, it's like, no, no, no, no, you're just trying to take it away from them. But no, it's not, I mean, these are just facts. I mean, this is some of the deal things that we that we deal with as flight attendants. The other one's West Africa. West Africa. Now, that one movie, what was that that movie with um Adam Sandler where they were talking they were there, and and it was perfect how I described them because they they're strong negotiators. That's gotta that's gotta come off. Oh no, you know, uh if we just put this underneath there, it's it's fine. If you if you turn it this way, it's fine. He can put it on his head. They they'll negotiate anything.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, our rules are rules, not negotiable. Yeah. Non-negotiable.

SPEAKER_01:

That's I I think that's probably one of the toughest things for the for the crews because whatever it is, whatever the rules, they want to negotiate them.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Right? Right, let's let's change them. Let's change them. Right now, we're gonna we're you know, it's up for discussion. That's West Africa. Now, here we go. Mexico, Latin America. Now, let me tell you, remember, we're talking about West Palm Beach out uh with the United States. When you leave Newark and you're going to Latin America, it it's the craziest damn flights I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Those people, first of all, won't sit down.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And then when you do get them to sit down, the plane starts moving and they think they can it's like a bus. Right? They can still get up and start moving around. Now they don't know. I mean, because a lot of them, you know, they're not frequent flyers.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's just different for them. So they get they get up and start walking around the plane.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, those are the those are those uh that flight that is like uh when we land, you know, they get up right out of their seats, like trying to get their bags and stuff because they we haven't even got off the runway yet.

SPEAKER_01:

We're not even on the taxiway. And the the they're open overhead bins and trying to get their shit out of there.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But the other thing too is that coffee. You know, if if i uh it's a simple thing, right? If you're flying to Latin America, bring a lot of sugar. No, you just well, you just dump the cream into the coffee pot because you're you're gonna run out of cream.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you're gonna run out of cream, you're gonna run out of sugar.

SPEAKER_01:

Like sugar and cream on those flights are like, and we take a huge bag of sugar on those. Yeah, those are absolutely crazy flights. Absolutely crazy flights. But a lot of these, like I said, they're there, it's it's a lot of them is language barriers, but those they're a little crazy. A little crazy flights. But anyway, yeah. So we had we had to talk about those because the you know, flight attendants when when we talk about the destinations that we go to and some of the toughest ones that we go, where would you say in the United States? Um we'll just cover those real quick since we some since we covered. Like West Palm.

SPEAKER_02:

West Palm's gonna be like one of my number ones. They're gonna be hard just because there's so many freaking wheelchairs and old people on there. So it's like a really, really slow boarding and a really, really slow deplaning. So that's one of mine. Like, uh hate those flights.

SPEAKER_01:

East Coast of West Palm is is probably the least favorite. Uh, but I don't uh cruise lines, Fort Lauderdale.

SPEAKER_02:

Fort Lauderdale, the cruise the cruise people can be annoying.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because they think they think that we're or even they're going on a cruise, like everything's all inclusive.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And they think they're still on a cruise when they come back.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. And it's not. They're not.

SPEAKER_01:

No. It's cool and everything. I mean, we you know, it's it is what it is, but those are those are the tough ones the that actually work. Yeah. Those are pretty, those are pretty tough. But one thing I did notice this week, and do you when when military people travel on our airplane, is it easy for you to identify them?

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely, dude. I mean, once the military comes on, I mean, you they're first of all, they follow the rules, they're respectful. Yes, sir, no, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no ma'am. Like it's you can tell. Like, I already like me being the ex, you know, being a uh veteran and everything, I can usually tell when there's like a a young kid that's getting ready, he's like being shipped off to wherever to go to you know, basic training and stuff like that. And a lot of times they're just like they're surprised that I can recognize them, but you know, that that big old yellow envelope that they're carrying around.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the government issued. Yeah, yep. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Those are those are the uh dead giveaway that you you know, here they go.

SPEAKER_01:

But they're all respectful. I mean, er I mean, yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no ma'am. Everything is is is polite, but you like I said, military people, we we actually can recognize and the reason why I said that is because I had so many of them on on the flight this last five days, and it's really nice to to hear that because you know you give them the mute mutual respect. Yeah, right? And and it's very it's very cool because you know you you don't find that a lot.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I'm a firm believer that um, you know, like so many other countries in the world and around the world mandate military um duty. Yeah, like I honestly think that the United States we should have a one to well, uh a two-year minimum like military, like everybody all all, but you know, all kids should go in the military for two to two years. I mean, can you imagine the culture shift that we would have in this country just because of that type of like training and you know, understanding authority and respect and all that stuff with the whole system that that that how it would change the world here in the United States? Huge.

SPEAKER_01:

Respect for country. But yeah, but anyway, I I just wanted to I wanted to touch on that because I had, like I said, I had a lot of um military uh men and women on the plane the last few days. But I read this this one little article, and I don't know if you've read about this or not, but they had this uh this guy, his name was Duncan McPherson. He was a Canadian hockey player, and he was drafted by the New York Islanders. He disappeared while snowboarding uh on October 9th, 1989, and it was in Austria's Stubai Gla Glacier. His body wasn't found until 2003. What? Yeah, for 14 years he he was trapped inside this frozen glacier. That's that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I just thought that story he had to have like full fallen down in one of those fissures in the glacier and stuff like that and got trapped and disappeared.

SPEAKER_01:

14 years though. I mean, it's crazy when you think about some of these, you know, you you you see a lot of these people that go into like the crazy outback, you know, for snowboarding and stuff like that, places where they shouldn't go. But to think that they didn't find you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's crazy. 14 years. That that's that so that reminds me of like that dude, that movie where the dude had to like saw off his arm. You know, talking about like he got trapped in this like cavern and everything, and he was there by himself, and basically the only way he was gonna live live was to cut off his own arm because he was stuck. And but I mean, this guy gets like falls into and people don't realize like that when you go on glacier, like I've skied on glaciers and stuff before over in Europe, but glaciers have these fissures, and the fissures are as deep as the glaciers, and some of these glaciers are like you know, thousands of feet high, you know, and you get trapped down in there, it ain't like you're gonna drop a rope and pull you out.

SPEAKER_01:

Nope.

SPEAKER_02:

14 years first of all, they gotta know where you went.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, 14 years, that was crazy. I mean when I read it. It was mummified. Okay, when we start around the globe today, I I had to laugh at this one though. What's that? Okay, so they had this picture of a hundred plus women standing on this like big um like stairway, yeah. And they said, This is um uh a hundred pilot's wives going on this cruise to Mexico.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, they were standing on like the staircases. They're all together a list of so a wives, wives, pilot wives vacation on a cruise.

SPEAKER_01:

Away from the husbands, yeah. Yeah, and so I was looking at this and immediately, and I'm gonna get in trouble for this one, Sean. But um immediately I thought, you know, were the girlfriends next week?

SPEAKER_02:

I was thinking the same thing, too. I'm like, I'm thinking like uh next week is it like uh a hundred girlfriends cruise?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Wives this week, uh the girlfriends next week. All I could think about is I'm gonna get it. Thomas Bade is made. I'm gonna get it. So true. No, I'm just kidding. Not true.

SPEAKER_02:

Really. I'm not gonna say that. Oh my gosh. Anyways, what else is going on around the globe?

SPEAKER_01:

They had this person that was charged$392 for bags of candy. Bags of candy?

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

I'd be I'd be like poor if I say not even gonna say the airline that this happened on. But could you imagine that? You you walk up there. You know, me and you would sit there, sit in that boarding area and eat that shit. But no, they paid it because they they didn't believe that they was gonna have to pay it. They thought for sure they they they would get a refund.

SPEAKER_02:

On on their having to check their bags of candy?

SPEAKER_01:

No, they they they they couldn't check them. Oh, they couldn't check them, they wouldn't let them stick them in the bags. They were like, no, they they became pieces of luggage. So they had to pay, they had to pay the additional fee. Well, they thought it was gonna get refunded, never did.

SPEAKER_02:

Expensive candy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Bag of candy. Now, like I said, you wouldn't have been sitting there eating that shit. Yeah, hell yeah. So you had a Brit a British businessman who threatened, this was crazy, threatened to gang rape and set fire to a flight attendant. Now, this happened a few years ago, but his jail sentence recently was tripled, and an appeals court ruled it was far too lenient when they gave it to him. Good.

SPEAKER_03:

Shit.

SPEAKER_01:

But he did this in front of his family. Could you imagine how freaking I mean that tells you a little bit about like where he's from, but uh he he did that about he did that in front of his children.

SPEAKER_02:

That's some bullshit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean it was crazy, but they they gave him he was a he was uh he was a millionaire.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

And probably thought he could do whatever he wanted to do. Yeah, but um at at the sentencing, they tripled it.

SPEAKER_02:

He's probably friends at Epstein. Gonna continue to get in trouble for this, aren't we?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just saying, anyways, man. So what the DOT do? What I mean, they did something recently, didn't they?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, um, they just canceled that uh the requirement for uh compensation of uh flights. You know, like so the um DOT basically you remember like if the the you got delayed, all that like the government slowdown right now, like all that stuff that they were you know networking and all that stuff. Well, when the airlines canceled and all that stuff, that was because of ATC and not the airline's farm, right? The airlines had to put people up in hotels and give them food vouchers and all that stuff, and they had to do a minimum of uh$750 uh$75 in cash compensation or refund their tickets, all that type of stuff. Well now um that whole entire that whole entire thing, uh, they just raced that and said that airlines don't have to do that anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that part of the um uh the passenger's bill of rights?

SPEAKER_02:

So I mean is that is that I don't think it's a part of it because they can they'd have to cancel the bill of rights, right? So they'd have to cancel that whole passenger bill of rights. Passenger bill of rights has that whole thing with the you know uh you know we they can't have uh three hours uh tarmac delay without having access to so this was just simple compensation. Yeah, this was just uh a financial compensation to the airlines, you know, like that I mean from the airlines that they had an obligation to financially compensate people um for these types of delays that were outside their power, you know. Like so, like if it's weather, you know, like the airlines weren't giving you a compensation, right? This is another thing. The government was causing this delay, they shouldn't have to pay. Which makes, I mean, to me, it makes sense. Yeah, you know, like like that that's that's a little bit far-fetched. Like the airlines aren't responsible for this delay. If the airlines are causing it, if the airlines are the ones that are actually causing the delay, and like their system, their operations, they're mechanical, they have whatever, you know, they're they're stupid, their computer's broke, whatever it is. If it's their fault, I'd say compensate. You know, they're responsible to compensate. But this makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, most passengers probably wouldn't even know that they were uh required to make the compensation, even when we were.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right?

SPEAKER_02:

The other the other thing that uh been happening here in the news uh was remember that uh that Alaska air pilot that tried to like turn off the engines in flight, yeah. That happened a few years ago and all that stuff? Well, he just got sentenced. And uh evidently he only had like done like uh 50 days in in uh prison. So the guy got off. I mean, uh this is how I feel. He he got off. He has to do, he has to pay$59,000 in restitution to whatever it caused, you know, the airline, I guess, whatever. And then he he's only on five years of probation and he loses his license.

SPEAKER_01:

That ain't shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Really? If he turned trying to turn the plane off, yeah, trying to do so he was he was literally jump seating on the plane, like in the cockpit with the pilots, and he the guy was evidently on mushrooms, and so he was on these freaking psychedelic hallucinations and stuff like that, and he tried to turn off the engines, and uh, you know, they stopped him from doing it and all this stuff, but um, yeah, this is what he gets. He gets a slap on the wrist, probation, loses his license, pay a fine.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, he lost his license. Poor guy. I mean, he's on shrooms. Let's see, you try to turn a plane off and you're on shrooms, and you lost your license. I think a little bit more should have happened to you. A little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02:

Other thing that happened, man, was the uh uh, you know, Walt Disney and the YouTube thing. I don't know if you're impacted by this, but I I subscribed to both these guys, so it really didn't matter because I have access to all this stuff. But I guess people around the United States, this went on for a couple weeks now, where uh Disney pulled all their material and all the everything from YouTube streaming. And like some people, so many people went to just streaming now. And I I'm one of those customers, so um I use YouTube TV as my streaming, as my cable, whatever. And I guess evidently on YouTube, like when you Disney pulls it, it's not just Disney, Disney owns a lot of shit, right? ESPN, ABC, uh he had the SE SEC network, the ACC network. So there was a lot of college football not being seen this last weekend and all this stuff. If you had just had YouTube, so any anyhow, uh yesterday or whatever, they they uh finally came to a deal and said, Okay, we got a deal. So you so you're good now for another five years or so.

SPEAKER_01:

Isn't it amazing how fast deals are made when a lot of people are pissed? Yeah, right? It's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

Like when you when you when you are uh when when you're inconveniencing a lot of people, especially when it comes to sports, millions people start. Right? What do you mean I can't watch it?

SPEAKER_01:

There's nowhere to watch it, right? That's crazy. Their ass ain't coming back. That's what they do that, right? As soon as as soon as it affects millions of people with something like that, shit gets done.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, it that's crazy. Other things happening here, right here, that that I thought it was funny, man, that was out there is that uh Apple has this new thing with a uh they co-collaborated with uh EC Miyaki, which is a designer very famous designer out there, but they're doing these new things called the iPhone pocket. Have you seen it?

SPEAKER_01:

iPhone pocket? No, no.

SPEAKER_02:

Basically, when you see the pictures of these things, it's like a big sock. They made colorful socks and they've cut they made like a slit in it, and then the uh you can slip your iPhone into this sock. So we're and you and you kind of wear it over your shoulder so you got this long you know slit, and then you got this like knitted sock that's hanging down. That's sexy. It's the it's the new um iPhone pocket.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just saying. Forget about sticking it in the pockets that you already have. Yeah, no, no, no. I want one that hangs off of me. I want a colorful sock. Gonna make a million bucks, Sean. Gonna make a million bucks.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, just saying. Anyhow, um, there's uh another thing that's happening out there uh that was in the news that I I thought was like kind of interesting was uh Bezos is um starting this new thing called Project Prometheus. And uh he started up a whole new company that's a this AI company. And uh they're gonna be focused on, I mean, like he he's dropping 6.2 billion dollars into this company, and they've already started up, like they've already hired up like a hundred people and all this stuff into this uh startup, like you know, scientists and you know, tech people, all this stuff. Uh, but they're gonna be focusing on um artificial intelligence and um the engineering and manufacturing of computers, automobiles, and spacecrafts. So this might be like a whole new product and a whole new line, like a whole new Apple thing that's coming out, you know. But they're specifically doing it into all AI stuff. And uh a lot of people backing it. And this is this is like a this is the first time, and he's gonna be like the CEO. And so he he hasn't been a CEO since Amazon.

SPEAKER_01:

He doesn't need to, right? I mean, they they the the comedian, that one uh Italian comedian was just making fun of him the other day. I was watching this and he was he was talking about Bezos, and he's like, you know, when he first started, he was like a nerd. Yeah, and he just like now he's shredded.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a he's like he's like a shredded, he's got time to be shredded.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly, right? I mean he was like you go from a nerd and then all of a sudden, like you're a bodybuilder, you're shredded, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Jeff Bezos. I got paying people to keep me bit, feed me right.

SPEAKER_01:

Just tells you, man. I mean, uh more more power to him. I I I just thought it was funny. It was actually a good skit. I had to throw a little humor into your uh into your information there.

SPEAKER_02:

Ripped, shredded. So other thing, the other thing coming up here, man, uh, this week is Thanksgiving, man. And I just wanted to put out a little uh PSA out there for everybody. Like, you you know, be ready. You know, Thanksgiving's coming up, and even though they had the government slow down and all that stuff, you know, or they freaking, you know, it's gonna be crazy out there. And they're seeing like six million people are gonna be flying, and out of those six uh million people, like they is 82 million people are actually gonna be traveling. So a lot of people are gonna be doing by car and all that stuff. And I think I saw what the average uh you know the gas price or something like that right now is like just above three dollars or something like that. So a lot of traveling, a lot of stuff. So uh one of the things that one we would just want to tell you, man, pack and travel early, and just like we were saying, travel early in the morning, early the better. Um they're also saying uh don't check bags, right? You know, so you don't not run into that problem. And uh ha have the airline app. You know, have their air app because anything that goes wrong, you get those notifications and stuff right away. And the sooner you can react to it, the better, because when one flight cancels or something cancels, everybody's running that whole plane full of people are all running to to do probably the same thing that you're trying to do because you're all going to the same destination. But uh that's uh just a little tip there for uh for uh Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, the biggest question, the biggest question.

SPEAKER_02:

What's that?

SPEAKER_01:

Are you gonna be out in there?

SPEAKER_02:

Traveling? Mm-hmm. Yeah. What are you gonna do? Dude, every year my family uh okay. Carol's side of the family hosts the uh you know dinner.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm talking about working, brother. I know you I know you're going to freaking dinner, man. I'm talking about working.

SPEAKER_02:

I am I am working, dude. You know why I'm working? What? The day before I'm picking I'm baking pies the whole damn day baking pies.

SPEAKER_01:

Six pies. You guys, I I will tell you what's going on in in the airline industry over the holiday week. Sean will tell you how to bake pies. No, I had to give him shit. I already knew what he was doing. But no, I mean, you know, okay, real quick. Do you do traditional turkey or do you do something else?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't do the turkey, but my uh sister-in-law does traditional, just you know, bake, you know, bake secure turkey.

SPEAKER_01:

I do honey-baked ham turkey.

SPEAKER_02:

Have you ever had I love that one? Dude, honey bake is the shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I love a honey baked.

SPEAKER_02:

You order them ahead of time or whatever that we do the turkey.

SPEAKER_01:

Usually we do the turkey and the ham. Oh, that's awesome. Yep. You get a deal on it.

SPEAKER_02:

I like ham and they don't always have ham at Thanksgiving when I'm there. Yeah. So we normally the big focus is turkey, of course, you know, but you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Getting to the holidays, man, is getting let me tell you, the it's gonna get crazy soon. So, you know, definitely what Sean was telling you about travel, make sure that you get there early and then double checking uh passports, license, all that stuff before you walk out the door, make sure that you got it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Because it'll be a nightmare. Ask Sean because he he's had to stand out there and wait for somebody to bring it to him. Like me. You're a funny guy.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, man. Inspirational quote.

SPEAKER_02:

All right. The inspirational quote is uh success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. And if you love what you're doing, you will be successful.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, damn, in that case, me and you are gonna be at the top of the game, brother. Because even if no one wants to listen to me and you, we're still gonna get together and do this shit. You got it, man. Right? All right, we have a great time. Anyway, hey, listen, guys, we had a lot of fun this week. Yeah. We will see you next time on Cabin Pressure.

SPEAKER_02:

See you next time on Cabin Pressure.

SPEAKER_01:

See you guys.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, folks, that's another smooth landing here at Cabin Pressure with Sean and G. If you had as much fun listening as we did making this flight a little bumpy, head over to our brand new website, Cabin Pressure with Sean G dot com. You can check out the past episodes, snag some merch, or maybe even find out how G convinced me that this was a good idea in the first place. And don't forget to tell a friend about the show. It helps us to keep the seatbelt signs off and the good times rolling. Thanks for flying with Cabin Pressure. Until next time, keep your trade table stowed and your sense of humor upright.

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