Nashville Van Loading = Hunger Games?

Boarding a plane is stressful, but have you ever tried boarding a single hotel van with three crews and a crowd of passengers fighting for the same seats? We start with that Nashville pickup-area madness, then pivot into the kind of real-world airline travel tips most people only learn the hard way, like what passport info actually helps if you lose it abroad and why saving only the front photo can leave you scrambling at an embassy.

Then we get to the fun part: the same flight seen from two completely different worlds. From turbulence and go-arounds to the seatbelt sign, delays, crying babies, snack service, shoes-off behavior, and even landing applause, we break down the passenger mindset versus the flight attendant mindset. It’s funny because it’s true, and it’s also a behind-the-scenes look at how crew members stay focused on safety while everyone else is focused on comfort, timing, and connections.

We also talk crew life beyond the cabin: commuting whiplash when loads flip at the last second, reciprocal jumpseat etiquette, and why being kind on an airplane is never optional. Add in Europe layover surprises like missing hotel amenities, plus aviation and travel chaos from viral gate-area meltdowns to questions around diversions and emergency evacuations, and you’ve got a full dose of airline reality with a little heart at the end.

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Transcript

The Nashville Van Hunger Games

Shawn 0:00

So dude, you thought boarding a plane is intense. You should try boarding a van down in Nashville in that damn boarding area. It's like the freaking Hunger Games. Really? No shit. I mean, we went down there. I've been doing these two-day trips. All right. And they have like uh 16, they're like 16-hour two days.

G 0:28

Right.

Shawn 0:29

So you go down, have you you know that little pickup area? Yeah. You've been down there? All right. It's first of all, it's the worst place because Is there still construction? No, no, no. It actually looks really nice. Okay. But there's no air.

G 0:41

No air. Great.

Shawn 0:42

You got all that fumes and the shit going through there for the floor. Out of that garage, yeah. Right. So it's it's in a confined area. Now they got construction going out. Right. All right. So the vans, and when I talk about Hunger Games, the vans come around that little corner, right? So we're all standing out there. We have multiple crews. We're waiting for that thing. And you're you're like looking, looking. Sure. We're at there like 35 minutes, 40 minutes, waiting for this stupid van.

G 1:08

Dude, you do self-help then.

Shawn 1:09

Multiple crews. No, we ain't done. Multiple crews. Everybody knows this, multiple crews. Everybody's like, okay, should we Uber? Should we Uber? I'm like, we've been fucking standing here for like 35 minutes. I'm not Ubering after that. They got to be coming soon. So anyway, we're we're sitting there and I'm looking and looking and I turn around and I see the van. And it's like Hunger Games, right? Right. Three, two, one, go. And we have multiple crews running for this damn thing. For one van. For one van. Oh, sure. So we jump out there, we jump out there like we're carjacking this thing. And then, you know, and there this horde of this horde of passengers are behind us, and there's they're running for the same thing. So we're all boarding there, throwing our bags up, and this guy jumps out. So we have like three different crews, shitload of passengers. Everybody's getting in the all for one van. One freaking van. All right. So we're packed up in there. There's this one lady outside the van. One. I mean, it's like wall to wall. Everybody's sitting on top of each other. Right. Oh, shit's all packed up. Her husband is sitting in the like the the um the co-pilot seat in the van.

G 2:15

Left her on the curb?

Shawn 2:16

She's she's standing right there. I'm sitting there going, Are you kidding me? That's his that's her husband. That's awesome. And the guy was like, You you can stand. And I'm waiting for him. I see you at the hotel, honey. He didn't even look up. He didn't even look up. This is me. There is no way in hell I'm letting you stand. No, take my seat. And she goes, I can't. I was like, no, take my seat. I can't. No, you're not gonna do it. Unbelievable. Sitting there. Unbelievable. Sitting there.

G 2:45

People.

Shawn 2:45

Oh, it was unbelievable. I can't I can't, I cannot believe that that they have an excellent marriage. It would be the end of it, wouldn't it? Be the end of mine. No, no shit. No shit. I mean, if you were sitting in that side seat and Carol was out on the curb.

G 3:02

No, there didn't even be happening.

Shawn 3:03

You'd be jumping out of there going, hey, no, go ahead. I'm gonna hold on to the bumper.

G 3:07

It would have been reverse because Carol would already add her ass in the pan, and I would have been like, yeah.

Shawn 3:11

You'd have been holding on to the bumper.

G 3:13

Dude. That's that's crazy.

Passport Photos That Actually Help

Shawn 3:15

Rack in the back or something like that. That's some crazy shit. No, no, no. I but anyway, okay, enough on that rant. Yeah. So I want to talk about when you know when you leave the country and we're talking about with our passports and everything. So people people make mistakes. And one of the biggest mistakes that they make with the passports, I mean, we take it out. Do you ever take do you ever shoot like a copy, a picture copy of your passport?

G 3:38

No, I don't have a copy of it.

Shawn 3:39

You don't take a picture of it? So I I took a picture of it, and then um what the biggest mistake that people make is that they only take a picture of the front. Yeah, but what's a picture going to get you? Okay. That's that's my point.

G 3:52

Right. They make the mistake. What you need is the code in the back. Yeah, the code in the back to verify that that little that's the little thing that they scan. I know that. Right.

Shawn 4:00

I'm explaining it to you. Right. So this is the mistake a lot of people make when they go abroad and and they they they go to these other countries. Because if you lose your passport, you have to get an emergency passport.

G 4:12

Yeah, you don't have that code and or the passport, but I have my passport number, which is that barcode, you know, that's what that what's on there. Right. But I will say this. So, like, because I'm traveling so much international now, like, we don't take out our passports anymore. I know you don't. Yeah.

Shawn 4:29

So everything now is like just plane that people leave them. Yeah. And I'm just talking about passengers when when they're traveling. And one of the mistakes is like I said, they may they they'll take a picture of the front and they don't take a picture of the back with the barcode. Exactly, with the code that you're talking about. Because what happens is that if you lose it, you have to go to the nearest embassy. Yeah, you don't need the picture, you just need that, you just need that passport number.

G 4:54

Right. You need the passport number number. That's my however we have you either have the picture of the barcode thing, so you have the number or you have the number, whatever. Right.

Shawn 5:02

And you can store it in your phone, in a locked area in your phone where you can only see it.

G 5:08

It's not the end of the world, but it's gonna cause you a bunch of grief because it's gonna be like it's gonna take a long time to get that, right?

Shawn 5:16

Um okay, now think about that. You just sitting there saying it's not the end of the world. If right it's in the world if you're in another one. I just forgot the passport one time.

G 5:25

Yeah, it's not the end of the world. Did you were you like shit in a brick? No, it like here's here's my thing. Here's my thing. So mine was I forgot the password and I needed some, I needed to go get the password because I'm leaving. Like I needed it to leave, right? Yeah, and also that was back in a time where we weren't doing this biometric stuff. You're like, like now, it's like it is in full swing. Like every country is doing this biometric stuff. Like, so I could have could have possibly because I always have my global entry card card. So I have a portable global entry card too. I've seen that.

Shawn 6:00

They have a small version of the colour.

G 6:01

Yeah, yeah, you just you could scan that and everything. So like you can get through with all that stuff if you had it, but uh yeah, I mean it's always good to have everything. Yeah, you know, just you so you don't have the hassle of it. Same thing.

Shawn 6:13

It just makes sure that you scan the barcode on the back of it too.

G 6:15

Yeah, he really wants you to scan the barcode.

Crew Vs Passenger Reality Check

Shawn 6:22

See, now you I say just record the number. Oh, hell no. See, you're you're you're being a little smart ass, but I I I do remember, I do remember like looking out the window, wondering if they were there. Man, got your damn passport. That's right. Uh-huh. Yeah. So I thought we had have some fun this week, and and we talk about the perception of what flight attendants and passengers think about it's like the same flight, right? About the same flight? Well, we have the same flight, and chaos a lot of time goes it goes on on the flight.

G 6:54

Yeah.

Shawn 6:54

So different things happen, but we have a different perception. We are our perspective, yeah. Uh of what happened is completely different.

G 7:02

Right.

Shawn 7:02

Our perspective, right? Of what happens.

G 7:05

Right.

Shawn 7:05

So let's have some fun with that. Yeah.

G 7:07

Go for it. No, I you need your help. Okay. I thought you were going to start me up like a situation. Because I got a situation too, because like our lap my last flight. Like I'm not talking about your last flight. The whole I'm just you're saying the perception or the perspective. Now a crew viewpoint versus a passenger viewpoint. And like the passengers on our my last flight, they were it was like everything's perfect, everything's hungry dory, right? And the crew, we already knew. Like, we were close to being canceled. We had a mechanical issue. We like, like, there was there was an issue in front of the plane, the back of the plane didn't know about. Like, there's all this stuff that we see, yeah, they don't see. Yeah.

Shawn 7:49

Right? Yeah. But that's what I was talking about. The the difference of of our perspective of things. Right. All right. So let's let's look at one. Bad turbulence. What would be a passenger's?

G 7:58

Yeah, they're just thinking it's just like they, you know, this is a bad ride, and you know, it's scary. We're gonna die. Yeah, they some can I I had a lady, we had to we had to take her off.

Shawn 8:10

I expected more from you. Like, like, oh no, I mean we're gonna die. Passengers point at me.

G 8:14

No, yeah, no, no, no, no. I mean, the passengers, they're not all like that, but there's people that are like the you know, they have that like panic attack. We just had to take a lady off the plane. We're like we're getting ready to push back from the plane. She literally full-blown a panic attack right there, like crying, just uncontrollable, like scared to death. You know? So there's those people. All right. So what's a cruise? Cruise is like this isn't same shit.

Shawn 8:42

It's a pain in the ass.

G 8:44

Yeah. This is annoying me.

Shawn 8:46

Is it's it's yeah, I got stuff to do. We gotta put everything away. Bring I gotta get to my break. We gotta bring the shit all back out again. Right. That's that's that would be the difference uh uh for bad charge once. Okay, uh go around.

G 9:00

Oh, that's just like from the passengers? Is like they're like, what's happening? Oh my god. What are we doing? Why is the plane doing this?

Shawn 9:08

Where are we going? You're not gonna tell us. Yeah, you're not gonna tell us. There was a plane underneath this, wasn't it? What's happening? We almost got hit, didn't we? Did we almost get yeah? It was horrible. Was there a plane in front of us? A crew. We're like just missed my damn commuting, son of uh yes shit. Man, we're I'm delayed getting home. I had stuff to do. I swear we're gonna miss the van to the hotel now. You're right, right? Cruise perfect. Why do I keep saying that? I don't know, dude. Get that. I know it's late. I I was I'm like you that one day. Damn. Okay, so seatbelt sign goes off. I mean, this is a funny one.

G 9:46

From a pastor? Yeah, pastor. They're just like, you know, oh, I can relax, I can get up, I can go to the bathroom, I can go socialize, I can go talk to my friend.

Shawn 9:55

Yeah, John, come on down. You're the next contestant on the price is right. That's a pastor. Yeah, that's their theirs. It's like, shit, I'm gonna get up and go. Right. First thing, right? As soon as seatbelt. And then what is the cruise?

G 10:07

Cruise is like, oh shit. Now they're gonna be long ass. In my way, right? They're gonna be in the galley.

Shawn 10:14

First thing you do is kind of peek down the aisle and see if if that long butt line. The people in the last row are like, now I'm I'm a member of the butt in the face club.

G 10:23

Yeah, you you see them coming, you pull that curtain across.

Shawn 10:29

That's definitely the kid. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

G 10:33

All right, so a crying baby. Crying baby. Pastors are like, Can you shut them up? Can you why can't they control that kid? Seriously, I did not pay for a ticket to sit next to a screaming baby. I'm sorry, but can you move me? I don't, I'm not sitting next to a baby. Good god, I hate this.

Shawn 10:50

A cruise. Wonder who's the baby now.

G 10:54

Right.

unknown 10:55

Right?

G 10:56

He's crying now. Yeah, who who's whining really louder than the baby? Right. That's a cruise, definitely.

Shawn 11:02

All right, love this one. Delays. Delays. What's the passengers? I love this. This will be easy.

G 11:07

I had the worst. So this is, you know, like we had a two-hour delay in the get. So we're sitting at the gate. You know, you've been there, I've been there. So here's a passenger perspective. Everybody's like, I'm not gonna make my connection. When's my connection? Do they know that I have a connection? I I need to know. I need to know what girl, where what gate are we coming into? What gate am I going out of? Like, do you have that information? Yeah, how about this one? Hey, welcome on board.

Shawn 11:32

Your airline sucks.

G 11:33

Yeah, you suck.

Shawn 11:35

I'll never fly you again.

G 11:37

Yeah.

Shawn 11:37

Right? Are we gonna get snacks? Are you gonna give us anything free? You guys suck.

G 11:42

Meanwhile, cruise perspective. Well, that fuel leak seems to be pretty serious. Yeah.

Shawn 11:51

Let's prepare for the meltdown. Right. We're getting ready. Here he comes. Okay. I can see him. I heard. How long to the first bell? It was that one guy that was out there in the in the boarding area. You know he's gonna come on. You know he's gonna come on and say something, right? It's just the whole meltdown's gonna start.

G 12:10

I had a guy in my last this is uh the we were going whatever, coming home last week, whatever. And the guy, from the time we had our delay to the end of the flight, and it was a 14-hour flight. He every hour is asking me about his freaking connection. What should I do? Yeah, what do you think I should do, Sean? You've been flying a long time. How should I handle this? Where how do I how am I gonna connect? Are they gonna hold it? Oh, can you help me here? I I have a first class seat. Am I gonna get one on the next flight? It was like I know. Like everybody in the crew, and he went to everybody in the crew, too. You know, he's like, one opinion wasn't enough. He needed to get re reinforced by the other crew members, dude. Exhausting.

Shawn 13:00

You're gonna like this one. Okay. Took your shoe, passenger, take their shoes off. Fuck that. Pastor viewpoint.

G 13:08

Oh, I get in the wiggle of my toes. Right, but if a passenger sees another passenger. Let me put it on the feet.

Shawn 13:14

Okay, but a passenger sees another passenger.

G 13:16

Yeah. They'll be like, ooh.

Shawn 13:18

Ooh, that's nasty. Yeah, nasty. So now the crew's responding. Got his feet all over. Here's common ground.

G 13:24

Right.

Shawn 13:24

Ooh, that's nasty. Right. You finally found common ground with a passenger. Because you're you're both going that they that dude's nasty because the person next to the person in first class, he got his nasty toes up on the ceiling.

G 13:37

Yeah.

Shawn 13:37

And that that that one woman's over there like this.

G 13:41

One thing I hate was when a pastor like puts her knees in the back of it and like this dude's a freaking flyer, man. Like he he's he's been doing this forever. Yeah. You know, and he's behaving like a child, like in his own his own little world and all that stuff. Like he repulsed me.

Shawn 13:57

Yeah, but they they're also gonna start shit.

unknown 13:59

Yeah.

Shawn 14:00

Because if you start bouncing somebody's seat, you're gonna get pissed.

G 14:03

Dude. They're gonna get pissed. I mean, they will, they'll get pissed. I will turn around in a split second and tell somebody to get their feet out of my back. Like, I don't I had a little kid kicking me. I'm like turned around and I'm like, mom. That's all I said was like mom. Yeah. And she was like, Johnny, stop that. That big kicking hand that big nasty man out front. When you see these big old paws come over the seat and get the head of that little kid and picks them up. Exactly.

Shawn 14:30

It's what a passenger thinks, and what the other side thinks all right. So uh beverage and snack service, a passenger's view is um I want to coke, uh, I'll take a water, can I have a um uh a cup of coffee? Yeah, and then could you give me one of each of the snacks?

G 14:48

Yeah.

Shawn 14:49

A crew. This ain't the golden corral, man.

G 14:53

It's not the golden corral.

Shawn 14:55

This ain't all you can eat.

G 14:56

Yeah. Right? Oh, they yeah. Didn't you know that you should have ate before you got on this plane?

Shawn 15:01

Everybody Okay, so when you get on a plane, you get it you get a choice of a snack. And then every airline, so like yeah, but on the full service airline. When you get a choice of a snack, right? And then why do some people think they they get all three? And then they get mad because you tell them, but yeah, they get mad when you tell them that you know you you wait till you get to the back, so everybody has a choice. And they pout.

G 15:24

Yep. They pout. I'm like, I tell them all the time, I'm like, when I get done in the back and I have any left, I'll come back and get you some extra snacks. Until then, everybody's gonna get a choice, right? Greedy bastard. Okay, okay, landing applause. Oh, pastors, they're all excited, it's so good.

Shawn 15:46

Thank God we made it, we got it. Thank God we're alive, we're alive. The crew, thank God, it's over. Yeah, good creep. Can we get to the gate already? Because some of those flights, some of those fights, man, you you do some of these locations, and it it's kind of it, it's a little uh it's a little tough.

G 16:04

I think what we need to do is like when we're landing, like we're in the back galley, and it's one of those landing, like where it's a great land or whatever. We just need to like just bust out an applause. Yeah.

Shawn 16:14

We're here, oh my god, almost over! I told you he said we can make it. I told you. Yeah, we made it. What didn't they tell us? Right. The crew was the crew was screaming. My knuckles are so white. All right, man. People, people will be letting me. Exactly. Yeah. Weather delays. This is a good one.

G 16:36

Yeah.

Shawn 16:37

Why in the hell do they board us?

G 16:39

Yeah. Are you kidding me? That's not the passenger perspective. Yes, it is. It's no, the first one is this. Well, I'm gonna be late. This is causing what do you know? Or how am I gonna get to my thing? I'm gonna be late. Okay, okay, but but how about I'm not gonna make my dinner plan.

Shawn 16:57

Uh uh, ladies and gentlemen, uh, I hate to tell you this, but um, I know we're boarded up, but um all the ramps closed, yeah, and the airport's closed, and they said it's gonna be closed for at least the next two hours.

G 17:10

I'm I'm gonna miss my connection.

Shawn 17:14

So another common ground is gonna be the crews going, why in the hell are we bored?

G 17:18

Right, right. We're like, we're like, all right, get them off. Get them off. We don't need to be sitting here with all these two two common thoughts, right?

Shawn 17:26

Comping drinks, passengers.

G 17:29

They're all happy hour, hey, let's do it. Right? Give me two, right? Give me three, crew, right? Calling the police, right? We're doing reports, right? Doing reports, gonna be a nightmare. You know what? Here's the thing about that comp and drinks anymore. Like, you know, back in the day, that was always the you know, we comp drinks like crazy, but we don't do that much so often. I know any anymore.

Shawn 17:53

Every once in a while, though.

G 17:54

And you know, and here's the other, the public isn't like always like, oh, you're gonna comp drinks?

Shawn 17:58

Yeah.

G 17:58

Unless you're on that Vegas flight or something. And that's of course the first thing out of their mouth. Yeah. You know, but most of our it's just like that learning thing. They've learned like we've we it takes a long process to teach the whole public like how to like what are we gonna do and how are we gonna compensate them, type of thing. And now we've taught them over the years, you know, we ain't just gonna give you free alcohol because you're gonna get stupid and get drunk.

Shawn 18:22

Yeah, we're gonna have videos, right?

G 18:24

We got lots of videos. So they now are like, oh yeah, we can't do that. Okay, last one. Somebody blew up the laugh. Dude, past your viewpoint, this is a mutual viewpoint. What?

Shawn 18:39

Ball in my body. It's mutual. What you eat? Oh my god. We're stuck in a tube. Why would you ever do that?

Graduation And Commuting Jumpseat Rules

G 18:51

Yeah. Hey, sometimes there's emergencies. You just gotta do it. You gotta do it. All right, man. So we had a little fun. What's been going on with you? Oh, man. Well, one thing. Boom! Second time. I'm graduating. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good for you. So, another degree down, getting ready to check that box off. And uh, I'm done studying for a long time.

Shawn 19:14

That's why you get your Arizona state.

G 19:15

That's why I got my Arizona State on.

Shawn 19:17

Oh, see, I was wondering why he's wearing that one. Forks up, baby. He's like, Forks up. He's so corny, man.

G 19:25

He he's representing the other thing that happened, dude, is uh I was like uh commuting and uh I didn't know. Do you know like all the airlines that you we have like reciprocal jump seats on? No, like with our with our. I know I gotta look. I have to look sometimes. Like I have no clue, and but now that I'm commuting and stuff, I was like, wow, I didn't realize we had all these reciprocal jumps. I know we got a ton of them. Yeah, and and uh and you it really when you're commuting, you know, in your that commuter world, you have to know like what you can and can't, because like I had a flight yesterday, it was like I landed, we're coming in, I'm gonna go to my connecting flight, come home, get commuting, and it was like 14 seats open, right? I get to the gate, it's now negative two. I'm like, what the F just happened? Like, how does this happen?

Shawn 20:15

But regardless every every day, yeah, it's going on all the time.

G 20:19

You gotta know your reciprocal jump seats. I love this, but here's my shout out to every airline out there that has reciprocal jump seats. Understand other airlines, everybody, the little guys, the big guys, if you got reciprocal jump seats, be nice to those people. Like, I you get I hear like crews giving attitudes to like, you know, express carriers coming on the main line and they're on our jump seat. You know, like if we have that agreement, fucking treat them like the family. Like I it pisses me off when I see a crew and they're like, got an attitude because they're on a re we have a reciprocal agreement. Like, you don't want to go on there. When it happens to you and you got to use their jump seat, you're gonna be thankful.

Shawn 20:57

Well, I I don't ever understand why you would treat anybody bad that comes on a plane. I don't care who they are, right? I don't care if you're I don't care if you're a paying passenger, right? I don't care if you're a non-rev. I don't care if you're uh uh a deadheading pilot, I don't care if you're anybody that on a reciprocal agreement. Yep, you're still a passenger on our airplane. Yeah, period. Treat them nice. There's absolutely no reason to be mean to anybody. I know. I just it's just stupid.

G 21:22

It's mind blown when I hear this or see it. Like I'm I'll shut that down real quick. I'm like, no, no, no, that ain't happening. No, I I totally agree.

Shawn 21:30

And I just think that that's complete bullshit. Yeah. To do that to anybody. I don't care who it is. You don't, even if you didn't like somebody, so what?

G 21:37

Yeah, so what?

Shawn 21:38

They're on your plane, you're on their plane for a certain uh period of time, they spent money on your airline. You know, all you have to do is it does not cost you anything to be nice, especially when you're getting a free ride. Yeah, it's it's that that part of it. I I mean I I'll never understand that.

Why Kindness On Planes Matters

G 21:51

Yeah, I don't get that either. Here's the other thing that happened to me on this uh last last week. So uh I you know, I'm going over to Europe, right? And it's I started thinking about how, like, you know, when we have you're talking about the hotel and the freaking, you know, uh hunger games going to the van and all that stuff. And so those are the things we have to deal with over here in the United States, right? So when you go abroad, like it's not like that for the crews, you know. We don't because we had like all this. Oh no, no, you could you get like fancy shit. It's not all fancy. Like we got this one van, like, dude, I thought I was a sardine, man. My knees are all cramped up. I'm like, dude, I'm at operation. I get it, I gotta get some room here. You didn't sign up for that.

Shawn 22:31

I'm American, dude. I got I need more room than this. Isn't that funny? The first thing, the first thing people go to another country, they're like, I'm American.

unknown 22:39

That's right.

Shawn 22:41

People are like, I don't give a shit who you are.

G 22:43

Like, I'm American. Here's my point. So you go to these hotels and everything, and like in America, you get when you check into a hotel, what are some of the amenities that you think you're gonna get in pretty much every hotel that you check in, like every one of our layovers? What are some most of the amenities you're gonna get? That I'm gonna get? Yeah, just the the the ones that are you're like we take for granted.

Shawn 23:04

Well, I get a cheap ass little bottle of lotion.

G 23:06

Yeah, you get so like you can get like shaving, like you can go to the front desk and get shaving creams, you can get razors, you can get toothbrushes.

Shawn 23:12

Well, yeah, you can get that if you if you go ask.

G 23:14

But um, but what about in the room? Like you go in, you you think I'm gonna get a bed, right? Yeah, there's gonna be pillow care. Remover. Yeah, there's gonna be like blow dryer maybe in a room. Yeah, you're blow dryer. Hey, there's gonna be towels in the room, right? An iron stop, an an iron. Yeah. Little refrigerator. Not in Europe. Nope. No. What'd you get? What I didn't get is what I'm talking about. You can get any of that. So for two weeks now, I've been going to Rome. Yeah. I check in at a hotel, I get in there, I turn on my shower, I get to go and get ready to do it all up, right? You ain't got nothing to clean up. I'm looking around. There ain't a washcloth in sight. No way. They don't give washcloths. Really? No, it's not part of the package. No, bring your own washcloth. You gotta bring your own. Dude, I'm bringing hot towels off the plane. Used, dude. They're scented, they're scented. So, so I'm like, what is going on? Iron, you say. No irons in any room. You have to go to an ironing room. Well, wow. Yeah. And guess what? I'm like, hey, I'm gonna go to get my I'm gonna do my iron because you know me. Yeah, dude, you know, I gotta get my shit's creased up and ready to go. Yeah. I give myself some extra time in the morning because I'm like, I'm just go up, go up in the morning and get it done. I go up there, I get up in the eighth floor of this hotel, I walk into the iron room. No iron.

Shawn 24:47

There's no iron. At least they they but you okay. To be fair, it said ironing room. Right? Yeah, but the week before there was an iron in it.

G 24:57

You should have brought your own iron. So now I gotta go back downstairs and room for you to iron. And I'm like, uh, there's no iron in your ironing room. Oh, yeah. It's inoperable. It's it's out of order. It doesn't work. Yeah, we got this for you. They put boom, here's a steamer. Not quite gonna get the crease that I want, but they would shake out what I need.

Shawn 25:25

And and then you pull the hairdryer and you plug it in, you're like, okay, I'm ready to go. And then click.

G 25:31

Yeah. And you work it.

Shawn 25:34

Push the red button. First of all, it didn't reset button.

G 25:38

I don't use hair dryer.

Shawn 25:39

I'm just I know that. But I'm just saying now, now you don't. But you know what I mean? You plug it, you push it, nothing.

G 25:46

Nothing. Yeah.

Shawn 25:47

All right.

G 25:49

The worst part about any amenity in a hotel that you're when we're like traveling and stuff, is when something doesn't work, just like you're talking about. Like, like I hate, like I get in that situation. This is early on in the career. I'm always ironing. And you go in, you're like, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna do my iron, get them do my shirt. You pick that iron up out of the thing, and there's nothing but black sludge all over it, right? Yeah, oh yeah. And you're like, 30 minutes. It's gonna go 30 minutes.

unknown 26:14

Shit, it needs iron.

Shawn 26:16

Like your phone comes there, I got a merchant, I can iron, get it up real quick. It's gonna go on your shirt, man. It's gonna go on your shirt. All of a sudden you put that iron on it, it's like big black stain right down the middle of it.

G 26:27

I've I've ruined so many shirts with starch, right? Like thinking I could like just no, no. You if you see that stuff, don't do it. Oh, just sludge, yeah. Just pack it away, call for a new one. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Scrunch the shirt up. What's been going on with you though?

Europe Layovers And Missing Amenities

Shawn 26:44

So um we just had a medical. Best feeling in the world, it was after the medical, um, walking down the aisle, these little old ladies, because you know, you don't think a lot of people pay attention. Yeah. And uh they grab your they grab your arm, and this lady goes, You guys are amazing. And and you just turn around for that moment, you kind of realize there's certain things that we do when we have situations on an airplane. Right. And when somebody recognizes it's pretty cool. So, I mean, we just we just recently had that that medical emergency, and that was that was really that was a lot of fun.

G 27:14

Yeah, because we're not all pretty pretty, just pretty faces.

Shawn 27:17

No, no, no, no. But um yeah, but you know, it it is when you're acknowledged that uh from from a passenger, that's really cool. But all right, so you know this whole trend about the with the pilots too, and that um the trading cards.

G 27:31

Oh yeah, dude, I had that happen to me over Europe. I I went through customs and one of the customs agents hanging over the side, and he's like, the crews are walking by and he's like talking in Italian, and he's like, blah, blah, blah. He wanted trading cards.

Shawn 27:44

It it was the best thing. This little girl comes on, and and the pilots are like, they they you you want one of the trading cards? She goes, Oh, yeah. Yeah and and and I told her, I said, you know something you really you want to keep those, keep them really nice because there were something. I swear to you. It's fun to tear. She goes like this. And and that thing was just given to her by the pilot, and now she got two halves, right? She got two halves of the plate.

G 28:15

It's one of those, you know, like those, like when like uh cartoons and stuff does that, like little little kid stuff. It would be that'd be awesome. Like you, like the little kid cartoons, like, you know, like, oh, it's supposed to be special? Good. Stupid.

Shawn 28:28

It was good. I mean, I I I got the biggest kick out of that because she was standing there and I was like, oh, make sure that you you make sure you don't do anything with it.

G 28:36

Obviously, she didn't see the value.

Shawn 28:38

No. It was right out the door. But also had had some passengers. Do you ever have these people that they they put the those facial masks on? Oh, hydration masks. Yeah, dude. You what I I wanted to do. How about the girls?

G 28:50

The girls now with the like they put the things in their eyes, those like stick things. Dude, I have no idea. Are they like I don't know what they're I've seen a lot of like it's like uh like the key from them having bags? Yeah, and they stick them on their face, or like I've seen the whole full face once.

Shawn 29:05

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. It's like a hydration. They look like they're like a robot or something like that. Yeah, you're walking through, you're like, would you like something to drink? We're like, what the f yeah, it's like what do you see?

G 29:14

It's like land the mummies over there. Hannibal lector?

Shawn 29:18

What do you want? All you see is like these two little blinkers, right? Go going through these little slits. Yeah, that and the curls. Oh, the the those damn little curl things. You ever seen those ones?

G 29:29

Yeah, they wrap them up and they twist them on their head.

Shawn 29:32

Yeah, and that just add that. It looks like it looks like cariborn. Remember Carolina?

G 29:36

I know. People crack me up. These girls crack me up in their beauty like routines and stuff, and they're not afraid to come on the plane with them. It cracks me up. Like my wife wouldn't be caught dead, right? And then they take then they take them off, and you're like, put them on. Yeah, but if I would like my wife would not be caught dead, like showing some of the public their beauty secret procedures and stuff, right? Like I haven't even seen half of it. She's like very secretive. I don't know. You put a piece of wet. They got the like gels and they got like moisturizers.

Shawn 30:10

But wet tissue on your face then got little slits in them. Let me could have done that with the hot towels and just kind of cut the the whole thing. We would have been millionaires. Exactly. Sented. Flight surface hot towel. Bring some eucalyptus.

G 30:25

Yeah.

Shawn 30:25

Right? We can make eucalyptus towels.

G 30:28

Dude, let me uh difference making. Yeah. I was gonna ask you a question about this. Like, how much time do you spend on your face?

Shawn 30:41

Well, as you can tell, I work on it all the time. You know, I make sure that we're probably not the flight attendants that I make sure that I'm a balanced over here. Every once in a while it gets a little dry over here.

G 30:54

You know, to my to my um, you know, what is it? What I'm looking for. My my like to my routine account of of this whole thing is like of flushing your face. People, you just don't understand. This is just natural.

Shawn 31:13

And and every week I get to come here and look at his natural beauty, right?

G 31:18

Dude, I I feel for all the females like that are flight attendants, like all the shit and stuff, all their stuff they bring with.

Shawn 31:26

Like, you know, when when when they woke up with with us when we were young, they're like, damn. Right. Damn, right? Right? They're probably like, damn, right? When we were when we were young. Now they wake up and they're like, uh, what the f yeah, well what? What happened to you? The hell was I drinking last night? Damn, I what do you mean?

G 31:44

I'm sorry.

Shawn 31:45

Man, I should have I should have stopped at one glass of wine. I drank the whole damn bottle.

G 31:49

Why do you got that white crusty stuff on your face?

Shawn 31:51

What is that? You're snoring. They look at this, they look at guys the same day.

G 31:57

Yeah, I'm sure they're they need to work on that shit.

Medical Calls Trading Cards And Masks

Shawn 32:00

Okay, one more, one more thing, talk about. So, a passenger, is there is there a level between loud and obnoxious?

G 32:06

Yes. I've heard this from my wife. I don't know personally, but she says there is.

Shawn 32:12

In in when you're on a plane, when you're on a plane, there's definitely a difference between loud and obnoxious. Oh, yeah. And you you have these individuals that they want everybody to know what they're talking about.

G 32:26

I know I just came off a flight. Like you're you're typing every I had this gal three rows back. I knew everything she was talking about the entire flight. She was talking so loud. Yeah. I knew that she was like, what credit cards she had, which ones that she was gonna, I'm gonna discontinue this one, I'm gonna do that one. Like it was.

Shawn 32:47

I I I was listening to how how John and Fred were friends, and that how they met in this drunken party, and then this guy was met this guy. It all we heard was for 20 minutes uh back and forth, how these guys, and it and literally it's like a boys' trip, right? Right. A guy's trip and they go on and they start drinking, and then it's this conversation back and forth, and just let people know there's a difference between being a little loud and being obnoxious. Yes, and nobody likes obnoxious. Ever. They don't even really like loud. No, but especially on an airplane, because nobody wants to be into your conversation at all.

G 33:28

Dude, the it's horrible. That loud? It's horrible. I do that noise canceling right over my ears, and I turn that music up and squire them as high as possible.

Shawn 33:36

It's like can't hear that stupid noise. Everybody's tuned out these days, man. I mean, on airplanes, everybody's tuned out. Yeah. There are. I mean, I can't we talk about this all the time, but it it drives me nuts. Right. It drives me nuts because they wait, they always wait until like the third time you ask them. And then they wonder why you're man, you might be a little annoyed because you did it like 159 times.

G 33:58

That's because that's what their parents did too. No, it's it's their parents allowed them to do that. It's just a little annoying. They get a little away with it and three times until they would stop.

Loud Versus Obnoxious Cabin Behavior

Shawn 34:06

Just be tuned in when you see a flight attendant. Try to. All right. So we're gonna go around the globe. Did you see um the hiker fell from that um that uh ange Angels Landing in um Las Vegas? Oh, out there in the Grand Canyon? Yeah, that that it's uh they had um have you seen that? Have you seen that at all? I mean, as far as like I didn't see that path.

G 34:28

Have you seen that path? That is it are we talking about the same thing in Los Vegas? Is this the oh because in Las Vegas, I don't know what you're talking about, but I do know of like that that bridge that goes that goes over the Grand Canyon. That bridge is a very good thing. No, no, no.

Shawn 34:42

This is this is a this is called Angel's Landing, and it's it's a it's a trek up through this um like I don't know, it's like a it's it looks almost like a mountain, but it's a trail. Oh I know exactly what you're talking about now.

G 34:57

It's it's now that is in Zion National Force. Okay, it's north of Vegas, and there's a path that you go up, and then you walk out on this ridge of the rock to get up to it. Yeah, and there's a chain that you can only that the chain is goes all the way up that you hold onto, and it's literally a sheer drop. I I've wanted to do this, like that that hike, and it's a hike that you have to do early in the morning because that chain is a metal chain, it's hooked to all these bars, and that chain gets so hot you can't even touch it. Yeah, they were talking about that. They were saying, like, if you don't go up there and have gloves on the way back down, you may fall.

Shawn 35:38

Yeah.

G 35:38

Because you can't touch that thing because it's a lot of people.

Shawn 35:40

Plus, it it it's it's a one-way trail with two-way traffic. Yes. That's I mean, you guys gotta see this. I mean, really, go go look at some videos of this. It literally it is, it's a one-way trail straight up and straight back down with two-way traffic.

G 35:57

It's a beautiful uh like the get to the peak of this place, it's got this beautiful view. And like, if you've ever been to Zion, you have not? No, yeah. So Zion is like this big, huge like canyon, beautiful mountains and all this stuff. But this trail goes like the river, kind of like does this like hairpin, right? And that's where the mountain is. This trail is, and it goes up. When you get to the top of this, you're standing like right in the middle of this huge canyon of Zion. So everybody wants to see this view, right? That's what the whole point is. But it's like it's super dangerous. Like, I want to do it. Carol would never do it. Yeah, like she wouldn't even try to do that stuff. There's there's other crazy stuff that happens up there in Zion, but yeah, Zion's about like maybe something we'll do one day. We will. That'd be crazy.

Shawn 36:47

Yeah, get your ass off a plane. We'll have to like have a GoPro on our heads, right? We'll have to have a GoPro.

G 36:54

For sure, man. I'm I'm in. Let's go. Yeah, let's go while I can walk.

Shawn 36:58

They'd be like, hey, G fell, man, but hey, get the GoPro because like video on the way.

G 37:06

Somebody fell off that day.

Shawn 37:07

No, it's horrible.

G 37:07

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's horrible. If you saw how high this is, like there's no like you fall, you're gonna fall.

Shawn 37:14

But it made me want to go look at this because they were talking about the the this actual um path.

G 37:19

Yeah.

Shawn 37:19

And that they they said it was a one-way path with two lanes of traffic, and it is, man. You gotta see it exactly what he said.

G 37:26

It was built to be a one unbelievable. And what happens is people coming up and down on it, they're on one side of the chain, and the other side of the chain, other people are coming down, and it's like, but that's the whole secret of it. You gotta get up there. You're like, you have to get up when it's dark out, start up there. You want to get up there so when it's light out, you're seeing the view, you get your view, and then you're coming down off of it early where you don't have all these knuckleheads in front of you plugging up the path, yeah.

Shawn 37:53

You better hope you don't freeze up, dude. I'm telling you, yeah, all that stuff happens. I mean, because you freeze up up there.

G 38:01

Yeah. Zion's a Zion is a really beautiful national park that I recommend to anybody to go see. Yeah, but there's lots, lots of dangerous places there. Yeah. I mean, there's an one of the first stops when you go off uh in uh Zion, you have a uh little tralmile trail you can hike over to the edge of the you know the canyon. And when I say edge of the canyon, it's as steep as this wall here. Like it drops off, and you're gonna drop off um 2,000 feet. Like it is, you are way up there. So lots of places for people to like fall off of, and they do that up there all the time.

Shawn 38:43

Oh, that I just did off that one. Okay, so that they had this uh this passenger walk up to this this gate, and this gate agent was standing there. She starts hitting herself in the face. You see that video? You gotta watch this video. Okay. It it is literally out of the scene like Fight Club. Do you remember when he starts punching himself in his face? Yeah. Why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? She does this. She walks up. The agent is doing this. No, no, the passenger walks up, she starts punching herself in the face. Go, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? Remember from Fight Club? Right. And she's hitting herself in the face, and she she throws herself on on the ground, and here's the agent. He doesn't even flinch. He doesn't even flinch.

G 39:24

He's like this. Because we've seen all of it. You know, like just another screen. She gets up.

Shawn 39:30

She gets up. Your favorite thing, right? Flips him the bird, and then she leaves out of there. Okay. Do you think it was a setup though? Go. I want you to watch that video. I'll have to watch that. I want you to watch that video and you guys see if you think it's a setup because it was such a close resemblance to fight club.

G 39:53

Yeah. But it was funny though. Did she walk off the plane or did she walk away? No, she was in the gate area. She was just in the gate area. Yeah.

Shawn 39:59

She had a meltdown.

G 40:01

No.

Gate Meltdowns And Beeping Evacuations

Shawn 40:02

She walked away. All right. Last thing. They had a potential uh bomb scare just a few days ago. They had to divert and um they had heard a beeping sound.

G 40:11

I saw that man. I just blew my mind with the whole the whole thing. I'm like, you know how many times have we how many times have we flown on a plane where we hear like the doors and they do that little whistling beep, beep, beep, beep, you know, where we were like leaking leaking like it's like it can get it sounds like a little beep or whatever, but I mean that's my thing. Like I had an incident years ago where we did a full blown prep for evacuation, right? But it was because I was flying with a captain that was like overzealous about being like overly safe. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. And and there's and and that's hard to explain for the public. Like, be how do you be over safe? Like, there's some situations on the plane. It's like we we give the past we give the public the information we think they need to know. Always, not always the total truth of everything, right? Because we don't want to ensue a panic on the plane, you know. So you're we're trying to control. Like, there's those people that are like want to like, oh, here's my opportunity. Let's go, we're gonna do it. We're blowing the slides, we're doing everything, you know?

Shawn 41:25

Yeah, like I how many people this one, this one I truly I didn't understand. I mean, it'll be interesting to the to find out because you know, I've had beeping sounds in overhead bins, had to go back and find it, and it's it's somebody's electronic device or something like that. And you know, they they haven't come out with the full details on that. Right. It's it'll be it'll be interesting to find out, but I mean, for them they evacuate and make all those decisions.

G 41:51

But your first reaction to the news of this story was what? You were like, Why?

Shawn 41:57

Yeah, because of well, just because of the way they reported it. When they reported it as they're they they they evacuated because of a beeping sound. Beeping sound, like did they not investigate this a little bit more? You know, like could you imagine? I mean, if that was true, all the different sounds that look, Airbus would be evacuated every other day.

G 42:17

And did the beeping sound stop when they got underground? Did they even like that's what I'm saying? Like there's so many questions to this whole thing. Yeah, but to like to push it to the extreme of saying we're going to evacuate the plane and risk people getting hurt. Yeah, that's that's a big thing.

Shawn 42:34

When you when you when you um when you blow those slides, there's always a risk of somebody being injured.

G 42:39

Yeah, and we know that. Like every there's every incident out there, you can go back in the records, you can see people get hurt evacuating their plane. Right. Well, yeah, did they live? Yeah, they lived and they got off the plane. Great. That's what their whole point. We want you to live, you might get hurt doing it. Yeah. But here's a but that whole thing got me very like my first like because they just reported it as a beeping sound.

Shawn 43:00

They didn't say like there was a threat towards the airplane.

G 43:03

Yeah.

Shawn 43:03

Because you they didn't say like there was a threat to the cloud.

G 43:04

I can't wait to see the details of that.

Shawn 43:06

Yeah, if there was a called in threat towards the plane, right? Or there was uh and then they had a beep on top of that. Did somebody make a did somebody make a comment? Did somebody say something? But see, all that was left out, so you really don't know, but just a beeping sound, that'd be interesting.

G 43:20

Yeah, to report for the re news to report. They evacuated because they heard a beeping sound.

Shawn 43:26

They diverted and evacuated because of a beeping sound.

G 43:29

Yeah.

Falling Down And Getting Back Up

Shawn 43:30

So it'd be interesting. Crazy. All right, inspirational quote. I do love this one. Everyone falls down. Getting back up is how we learn to walk. We started that from the very first time that we we came on this freaking planet. We're still doing Earth.

G 43:48

We're still screwing shit up. Yeah. And we But we're gonna keep going. We get we get back up. We're gonna get back up and keep going. Yeah, exactly. Like there's been so many like technical glitches and all kinds of stuff that we've done. Yeah, exactly. Like we it it happens. Like you gotta just keep on. You know what? Failure to me, like one of my biggest things in life is that I tell all these people, don't be afraid to fail. That's how you learn. Failure is a learning experience that you need to have. Like Michael Jordan always he talks about how much he failed. Yeah.

Shawn 44:18

You know, he didn't become a- Well, I mean, and that's like even even doing podcasts. A lot of people don't understand. It's it's when you're putting shows and everything together, you know, you're there's not always I mean, you're gonna you're gonna fail. Yeah, right? Oh, yeah. You're gonna fail, but all you gotta do is get back up.

G 44:32

We might have been failing for the last year. We don't know, but complete failure. Complete failure.

Shawn 44:39

Yeah. Is that failure?

G 44:41

Is anybody still out there listening to us?

Shawn 44:43

I know your mom is. Your mom's still there.

G 44:46

Hi, mom.

Shawn 44:48

Anyway, hey, listen, guys, we had a great time. You guys have a great week, and we will see you next week. See you next week. See you guys.

G 44:55

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